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Okay, then let me base my opinion on my own life, after all, that's were most opinions come from, our own experiences.
In my experience, if you sleep with a guy on the first date, not only won't you be friends, but you probably won't ever hear from him again. But, hey, do what you want, it's your life.
In contrast, I dated a girl and we did sleep together on the first date. We dated for over a year.
Well, I guess we've decided that it's up to her! ;)
That was my original thought :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
what is the probability a guy will be friends with a woman after one date and no sex?
really??
uhm...
mkay...
well, there is NO ANSWER for your question, since it depends upon the guy, the relationship, the situation...
really...
if all that mattered for friendship was step 1, 2, 3... we would all (maybe) get our heads out of our arses and buy a clue.
the REAL question is why you give a damn about a guy who gets potentially pi$sed without sex on the first damn date??
really??
really, really??
screw him... one date and you think you need to put out or you are worried about his feelings if you don't?
look... its OK to like someone enough to wonder about this... but really... please don't lose one sec of sleep over whether this guy is unhappy because you didn't put out...
if he can't be friends with you because you didn't finish him off... is that really what you think is friendship??
But KP, that's what she's trying to avoid. ;)Quote:
screw him... one date and you think you need to put out or you are worried about his feelings if you don't?
Sorry, it was there, I had to do it, forgive me? :)
Spankings. Now. My room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
Uhm... who is spanking whom exactly?
As if I care.
Love you alty.
You know it.
What if he has an STD?? Condoms are not a 100% secure if you use one.
Huh? I am not sure what relevance this has to the question...Quote:
Originally Posted by complicatedlife
I think we have gotten a bit off topic here.
Looks get you in the door, and brains keep you in the house...
I have met MANY sexy women... however, when they opened their mouth, I would proceed to the nearest restroom to vomit.
My way of thinking on this: For every hot chick there is some guy sick of putting up with her crap!
First ones persons idea of sexy is not another, if you are referring to the "model" look TV and magazines give us. Most get approached merely for their looks, so often their dates are shallow
About 10 years ago I dated a Hawaiian Tropic swimsuit model. Unbelievably beautiful and sexy by every definition of the word.
I broke up with her after 3 weeks because she felt that her looks made her special. She would expect preferential treatment because she was hot.
See, I thought all women expected preferential treatment, hot or not... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by stevetcg
Fair point. You are quite true. But this one expected treatment that other women didn't get. And got itchy about it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by kctiger
It didn't help matters that when I would go out with her I would actually come back dumber. She created what I have taken to calling a "smartness blackhole". She was so dumb (or at least acted it) that she made other people around her dumber. And not in the usual way guys get dumb around a pretty girl. Although she did that too.
She sucked the intelligence right out of you!! Been there before.
Its funny how you imply that normal women aren't sexy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klaipeda
From all I have ever experienced and read, beautiful women tend to 2 polar opposites - either they are the belle of the ball and date more than they can handle or they don't date at all. Because "normal" guys are intimidated easier than "hunks" but by and large, normal guys tend to be the ones worth actually dating.
And so are normal women, incidentally.
Not sure. If the woman is approachable and friendly she can get whatever she wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klaipeda
It's far more easy for a sexy woman to get a man than vice versa. Heck, woman don't even need to be sexy or too attractive. A woman that takes care of herself, looks OK and knows how to smile at men should have no problem in attracting any guy. For every 1 guy that rejects a female there's 100 others waiting for attention from you. So, for the most part, a woman should have absolutely no problem in getting a boyfriend. It's far harder for a good looking male to get a girlfriend.
Ok, hope that makes any sense. Good luck!
I love all answers, thanks to all!
I appreciate all opinions, critical thinking and openmindedness,thanks! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkwithaK
So your telling me that's not included? So they should not think of because of course the know each other for years?Quote:
Originally Posted by kctiger
My point is being friends with the person before or after doesn't matter! You should think deeper before doing it with someone you just met!
Hi all, the guy I know says he has a girl friend ( he is intimate with her and thinks about her as a part of his life.. ), but not the girlfriend, what is the difference?If another girl starts to like him how many chances does she has to be named THE girlfriend by him?
Well, if the guy is decent then the new girl won't have a chance, but the good girls normally go for the bad guys, and being one of the "gud" guys let me tell you this, the new girl has a chance, not a very big chance but still has a slight chance, but the old girl will probably still be there for awhile
Well, the point is the guy wants the new girl to be with him sometimes, if you know what I mean... :p, but the new girl is more decent than him ,and refuses his advances:oQuote:
Originally Posted by manicli6
Like I said the good girls always go for the bad guys because their apparently "sexy", but aslong as the guy dusn't like hug your be like touchy feely with the new girl the old girl sud be okay, by the way could you answer my question about datin?
Hi again, without your answers I would do really bad:):
I had a guy in the past that liked me.He wanted to date me, gave me flowers every morning ( we were housemates), if we used to go out, he used to buy me the things and used to take me to caffees and museums.. He used to advice me on everything and he used to make me lough.. One day in my room we had some drink, and he got excited, put me on the bed and wanted to kiss me and have a sex... I got angry and shouted him out of my room... He appologised all the week by writing long appologising letters to me ( he really was decent men, allways ready to help anyone). I was so angry that moved out of the house and did not want to see him anymore.. 7 years passed by and he every year on the Christmas sends me Christmas card by email... A week ago I wrote him email saying hello. He responded in three hours and I could feel that he was happy to receive my letter. He asked me for us to keep in touch.I sent him another letter, but after receiving his response I feel that the communication is very formal.My question is HOW DO I BREAK THE ICE TO MAKE COMMUNICATION MORE FORMAL? I just feel this person honestly liked me and was at ease with him, I so want to return what I lost-this feeling being cared for..
Thank you guys!
Thanks for your reply, I will try to answer yor question, go on..Quote:
Originally Posted by manicli6
Well I've been going on with a girl for 4 months, and I was kind of shy because it was my first time, and I was abit pocessive, and what not but lets say I had a very good reason, and then she broke up with me for being a and now she's ignorin me and I'm not sure what 2 do (she only talk to me on msn) I'm not sure wha I'm suppose 2 do, I still love her but she broke my heart and I'm not sure I want her anymore
So lets focus on the OP'er...
Take back and forth noise to PM's or this thread will be cleaned up by deleting posts that are a distraction.
We can disagree and talk about it... but this is starting to reach past constructive disagreement.
It all depends on what you expect from the relationship.
If you want a one night stand and don't expect a call the next day than go for it.
Its ironic but men will try to get you in the sack in any way possible but when you do you are a *easy* woman.
You ask a guy what kind of a girl he wants to settle down with and rarely will you hear anyone say an *easy woman*.
7 years is a long time to be out of someone's life. It would be hard to jump back into a friendship under any circumstances. But the fact that there was an "incident" and that you refused to forgive him will make it harder. If you want to break the ice, I think you need to address what happened in the past, appologize for cutting him out of your life and tell him that you miss him.
Be yourself! To do anything else is silly.
Tell him you think that you are too formal.Make a joke out of it.You really are almost like strangers.
Talk about what interests you and eventually you will get to the subject of relationships and there is your opportunity to break the ice.
I thought everyone was so open on line that there was no ice to break.
Wow what do I know.
Well,she broke with you, maybe she didn't like you being so possessive? Though if she still communicates on msn, and you feel that you don't want to loose her it's better msn than nothing,continue to communicate with her,nobody knows where it may lead.. It may later develop into something more serious: you can ask her out for example later on after some time, if you see that you are doing well on msn:) But if you see that you don't really like to talk to her, of course you then stop writing to her. See what happens.All best! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by manicli6
A man I like said he will call me on weekend but he didn't, although he is sitting on the chat today and chatting with other girls.. The story:A weak ago he got angry with me for something and said that I want to break up with him ( hence because I said that and that:rolleyes:)... I reassured him that I don't want to break up with him( even though we mostly communicate on the internet). Next day he called me, we talked fpr some time.. and as a proof that I keen to communicate with him, I asked him with a keen voice whether he will call me next time.. So he said "ok, ok I will, I'll call you on a weekend" , but it didn't happed. I know he won't call tomorrow either.. So what this is all about?If he does want to communicate with me, why he does not call. Also, he knows that I won't have sex with him, I told him and although he is keen to it, he also he mentions that he has a girl friend.. So If you have a girlfirend go and have sex with her then.. :p
It's obvious he's not into you. You seem to know that already. So don't take it personnal if he's not keeping his promises to you.
Why I should not take it personally?Quote:
Originally Posted by nike 1
Because you already know he won't call like he said he would. He apparently has no respect or loyalty to you so why bother worrying about it? It's nothing personal, it's just how the guy is.
If he has a girlfriend and talks to other girls on the internet then he only wants one thing; sex. Since you're not giving it to him then he wants nothing to do with you.
Hi guys, I like the guy for some time now, and we cannot not argue whenerver we communicate with him. I just feel that I cannot talk to him anymore without being accused by him that I constantly nagging him about something... I tired of trying to build up the needed relationship and give it a time to build up... I just tyred.Because he is constantly angry with me... I like him a lot and just was witholding sex for the future... This evening was too much for me, he was angry again with me and I just decided most crazy thing,- to ruin the unseccesfull relationship by having sex with him. It will be the end for him being constantly angry with me as he will leave me after sex..
Does someone has something to say?
Hi guys again, just to let you, my good shepherds know, that I read what you wrote me yeastersay and had a change of my mind.I did not sleep with him as he was not really keen to come, he wanted to go to sleep more than to have a sex:p. Today I went to see another guy as I meet sometimes guys from the friendship site, and this my guy I like also called me today 3 times just for a chat.. I hope I will not need to sleep with him soon, as he becoming much easier to communicate with.Though he mentions that he wants me every time since I suggested it to him yeasterday.. But it will not happen soon, I keep positive;))Thanks to you all, you saved me:). Love you all!
What an idiotic thing to do!
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