[speechlesstx]

So talking is OK? Seems I see a lot of thread here that deal with what people said.

Yeah, so?

[NeedKarma]

Smh

[speechlesstx]

Sorry, I assumed you had a point but apparently not.

[speechlesstx]

It's come to this, Obama's OFA is once again invading our holidays with Obamacare, featuring ... Pajamaboy.



Naturally, intense mockery ensues. I miss the days when grownups ran the country.

Not be outdone, some gay group has their own Obamacare marketing plan...



I have no words. I'm sure Phil Robertson doesn't either.

[NeedKarma]

Sorry, I assumed you had a point but apparently not.

Well considering that you either contradict yourself or make arguments that apply to others but not yourself it's pretty hard to have a discussion.

[NeedKarma]

I miss the days when grownups ran the country.

I miss the days when people weren't offended by everything.

[speechlesstx]

Well considering that you either contradict yourself or make arguments that apply to others but not yourself it's pretty hard to have a discussion.

I'm sorry, have I suspended someone for expressing their beliefs? If I had you might have a point but I really can't find any relevance in your remark. Discussing things people say is hardly the same as suspending them for it in the name of tolerance. There is no contradiction on my part.

I miss the days when people weren't offended by everything.

Was I offended? No, you really shouldn't assume so much. I'm amused at the depths of stupidity and these people will go to and the stereotypes these anti-stereotype crusaders will exploit to promote the crap sandwich called Obamacare.

The irony of your comment...A&E just suspended a guy they've tolerated for millions in their bank account until now because someone got offended.

[NeedKarma]

I don't think the redneck should be suspended, for the record. Similar and more ignorant things have been said on many reality TV shows - it's par for the course. Likely scripted for free publicity like most shows are.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

until now because someone got offended.

Nahhh... Until now, because he REVEALED himself.

Why aren't YOU offended??? It looks like you TOO think homosexuality equates to bestiality... Only someone who BELIEVES that tripe would be SURPRISED that people took offense... It's the legitimate rape thing all over again.. You've been talking to yourselves for so long, you have NO idea how offensive it truly is, until you reveal yourselves. Do you THINK this guy WOULD have said stuff like that if he KNEW it was HIGHLY offensive, and that he's LOSE his job over it??? Of course, he wouldn't, and you wouldn't post about it.

If the network kept him on KNOWING who he is, it wouldn't be the first time corporatism won out against doing the right thing.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
Nahhh... Until now, because he REVEALED himself.

Um, no, they knew EXACTLY who they had.

Why aren't YOU offended??? It looks like you TOO think homosexuality equates to bestiality...

Again, he did not equate homosexuality with bestiality. If anything it MIGHT be said he equated bestiality with heterosexual promiscuity hence the "morphs from there" line.

Only someone who BELIEVES that tripe would be SURPRISED that people took offense...

What is it with you people assuming so much bullsh*t? I am neither surprised some were offended or that they intolerantly and hypocritically want them sh*t-canned for intolerance.

It's the legitimate rape thing all over again.. You've been talking to yourselves for so long, you have NO idea how offensive it truly is, until you reveal yourselves. Do you THINK this guy WOULD have said stuff like that if he KNEW it was HIGHLY offensive, and that he's LOSE his job over it??? Of course, he wouldn't, and you wouldn't post about it.

No it isn't, it's a commonly held belief by more than just Christians. You guys get more worked up over a Christian believing same sex fornication is a sin, even though they still respect and love gays as people - than you do Islamic countries punishing it by death.

The difference between Phil and Glaad, as in the world at large, is Phil respects their right to offend and wouldn't exact revenge in an attempt to coerce everyone to think like them. That is what's offensive, not the Duck Dynasty guy.

[NeedKarma]

even though they still respect and love gays as people

That isn't true at all and you know it.

[speechlesstx]

That isn't true at all and you know it.

You calling him a liar? As a parent you should know love isn't dependent on behavior.

[talaniman]

You don't parent grown adults unless they are YOUR children. And even then you may get rejected.

[speechlesstx]

You don't parent grown adults unless they are YOUR children. And even then you may get rejected.

Really doesn't have anything to do with my point but OK.

[Tuttyd]

You were the chosen one! YouTube

Tom, that's what happens when someone at the top upsets the natural order.



Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by the sun of york;
And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house.
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.

Now that our brows bound with victorious wreaths;
Our bruised arms hung up for monuments;
Our stern alarums charged to merry meetings;
Our dreadful marches to delightful measures.

Richard 111 by William Shakespeare

[tomder55]

well done Tutt . I always love a good Shakespeare quote properly applied .

[speechlesstx]

I think this guy got it right.

Duck Dynasty: The Show That Got Away

BY PAT ARCHBOLD Thursday, December 19, 2013 11:58 AM 

After A&E fired Phil Robertson for saying what every good Christian should believe, social media has been abuzz.  One of the recurring themes has been puzzlement about why A&E would cut off its nose to spite its face.  Duck Dynasty is the franchise right now. Why would they risk destroying their own cash cow?

To understand the why, we have to go back to the beginning.  Duck Dynasty is not the show that they wanted, it is the show that got away from them.

It seems what the producers intended and what A&E envisioned with the show is much different than the show that they ended up with, but they didn't do anything about it because it was so wildly popular and so wildly profitable.  But even with all the money, they have never really been comfortable with what happened.

This is what happened.  The whole idea of the show was to parade these nouveau riche Christian hillbillies around so that we could laugh at them. "Look at them," we were supposed to say.  "Look how backward they are!  Look what they believe!  Can you believe they really live this way and believe this stuff?  See how they don't fit in? HAHAHA"

When the producers saw the way the show was shaping up, different than they envisioned it, they tried to change course.  They tried to get the Robertson's to tone down their Christianity, but to their eternal credit they refused.  They tried to add fake cussin' to the show by inserting bleeps where no cussword was uttered.  At best, they wanted to make the Robertson's look like crass buffoons. At worst they wanted them to look like hypocrites.

They desperately wanted us to laugh at the Robertsons.  Instead, we loved them.

A&E wanted us to point fingers at them and laugh at them.  But something else happened entirely.  Millions upon millions of people tuned in, not to laugh at them, but to laugh with them. And then we pointed at them.  We pointed at them and said things like, "I wish my family was more like them.  I wish we prayed together as a family.  I wish we were together like the Robertsons."

By the time this all happened, A&E had a conundrum.  They knew who the Robertsons were and what they believe and they still held it in disdain.  But they really liked the money.  Really liked the money. So they lived with it.

But the progressives whose bank accounts were not growing fatter because of these backward rubes were never inclined to look the other way.  They hate the show and they really hate the response to the show.  They want it destroyed.

Many magazines and interviewers have tried to get the Robertsons to trip up so they could pounce.  When Phil backed the Christian viewpoint on homosexuality and added some personal asides about how he just couldn't understand it, they had their moment.

I suspect that the folks at A&E, who always disliked the positive Christian message in the show of which Phil is the primary proponent, saw their chance.  They want to keep the cash but dial down the Christianity.  With Phil out, perhaps they could get the show they always wanted.

I suspect that the Robertsons are more principled than that and A&E will end up disappointed on many levels.  The Roberstons are who they are and I suspect the money means a great deal more to A&E than it does to them.

It will be interesting to see whether A&E likes the money more than they hate the Christianity.  I wouldn't be surprised if the hate wins.

Read more: Duck Dynasty: The Show That Got Away |Blogs | NCRegister.com

[excon]

Hello Steve:

Yes, he exhibited the beliefs of MOST Christians. But, that belief BANGS up against our vaunted Constitution. So, what do we do?? Do we CHANGE the Constitution to allow discrimination based on religion??

Nahhh... The Constitution TRUMPS your religion..

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello Steve:

Yes, he exhibited the beliefs of MOST Christians. But, that belief BANGS up against our vaunted Constitution. So, what do we do?? Do we CHANGE the Constitution to allow discrimination based on religion??

Nahhh... The Constitution TRUMPS your religion..

excon

The first amendment protects both his right to speak and his religious rights. There is no evidence of any discrimination here, unless you have this silly notion that criticism of one's lifestyle is discrimination. If that's the case, then GLAAD is discriminating against Phil Robertson. But you'll never see it that way, your side thinks discriminating against Christians, and doing your damnedest to mock them as in this case, is A-OK.

[tomder55]

What has he done to discriminate except to express his religious beliefs ? Sorry ,it aint no secret that Christians think the homosexual act a sin.