[paraclete]

The mexicans have clearly identified that american laws are at the root of the mayhem in their country and they have asked the americans to take action
Mexico's president to U.S.: 'No more weapons' - CNN.com
But to take action would violate basic rights, or would it? The US Constitution does not confer a right to traffic in arms but to hold arms. That being so acquisition of arms of any kind for the purpose of resale should be illegal and a purchaser and a seller should be restricted from undertaking such transactions.

[cdad]

The man is an idiot. Most of the weapon entering the country are from th southern end. Hes just grand standing because the big O wants to have gun control. Why doesn't he start issuing guns and ammo to the citizens and let them take the streets back. Or he could create an incentive for those that have crossed the boarders as an illegal and have them bring a gun back with them. That would be several million standing army to fight the drug lords.

[paraclete]

The man is an idiot. Most of the weapon entering the country are from th southern end. Hes just grand standing because the big O wants to have gun control. Why doesnt he start issuing guns and ammo to the citizens and let them take the streets back. Or he could create an incentive for those that have crossed the boarders as an illegal and have them bring a gun back with them. That would be several million standing army to fight the drug lords.

Always with the vigilante option, but the average citizen doesn't want to get involved in a street war, because that is no option at all. Mexico isn't about singing the US anthem. They know you stole a large part of their country. You think this is Mexico singing the Obama song, but the reality is your country is out of control and the crims are making money out of it. The path the weapons take isn't the issue, their presence and their source is.

I suggest you apply your own solution to the street violence and drug problem in your own country

[tomder55]

How could one possess a gun if one didn't purchase it ?

Most of the assault weapons of choice are coming into Mexico from it's Southern Border . But there is no doubt that "straw " purchasers in the US contribute to the problem (including some 1750 weapons that the US Government Justice Dept .provided to the cartels)

I have no problem with gun laws that clearly identify the buyer ;with backround checks. We have rights to own guns . There is nothing that restricts the government from knowing who owns them . Then ;guns seized in Mexico that were obtained in the US could be traced back to the registered owner.

[paraclete]

Yes Tom a first step but you should go further and make sure no non citizen can buy guns, that would curb the possibility of the gun migrating as well as being used in drug and related crime and of course reenacting your embargo on assault weapons, after all the Constitution isn't prescriptive as to the type of weapon

[tomder55]

after all the Constitution isn't prescriptive as to the type of weapon

Yes ;but I wouldn't deny Americans the right to own most weapons to defend themselves ;family and property. I lean in favor banning personal possession of nukes.

[paraclete]

I lean in favor banning personal possession of nukes.

But Tom that is unconstitutional surely you have the right to bear nuclear arms although you deny that right to others. It is a two edged sword, on the one hand it is non prescritive and can be intrepreted in the narrowest or the broadest terms. In 1770 terms you can keep a musket, a sword, a pistol but hardly a cannon, but according to intrepretation today you can keep weapons which would have been weapons of mass destruction in 1770, hardly the founding fathers idea of bearing arms. I personnally like the military connotations which would mean you don't have the right to keep weapons for other purposes

[excon]

Hello:

This is really easy... If they're having a war and using too many guns, let's just end the war.

excon

PS> To dad? O wants gun control?? Where did you read that?

[cdad]

Hello:

PS> To dad? O wants gun control???? Where did you read that?

Over the years there has been many studies and articles like this one.

The Myth Of 90 Percent: Only A Small Fraction Of Guns In Mexico Come From U.S. | Fox News

The only gun control I believe in is hitting the target on the first shot :)

[paraclete]

Hello:

This is really easy... If they're having a war and using too many guns, let's just end the war.

excon

PS> To dad? O wants gun control???? Where did you read that?

Very easy to say EX but obviously hard to do. To end a war you need either of two conditions, Absolute victory or capitulation, neither condition appears about to occur