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    #21

    Jan 17, 2009, 12:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    Landing and taking off are two of the most stressful times in flying a plane when there are the most accidents/incidents.
    I have long maintained that anyone can fly a modern plane. It's the taking off and landing that are the problems.
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    #22

    Jan 17, 2009, 01:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    I have long maintained that anyone can fly a modern plane. Its the taking off and landing that are the problems.
    Remember the reports about the 9/11 terrorists? They signed up for flight lessons but told the instructors they didn't care about the taking off and landing parts, just the flying part. They of course knew they wouldn't need to do the hard parts.
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    #23

    Jan 19, 2009, 09:13 AM
    What-a-man! A TRUE hero.:D
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    #24

    Jan 19, 2009, 09:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasParent View Post
    Everytime I fly over water I say to my wife that these floatation devices are useless because we will probably be dead on impact.

    The fact that he was able to land the plane in water and everyone was able to successfully de-embark is truly amazing.

    I heard that he also works as a consultant for flight safety, this guy knew his stuff and fortunately for the passengers he was the one flying this plane at the right time.

    Call it Devine intervention or the confluence of extraordinary circumstances which saved these people; but if I was on that plane I would believe that the Hand of God itself graced me that day by putting that particular pilot on the plane which was going to suck some birds into the engine and become disabled.

    These people won the lottery of life; they've been given a second chance.
    And it was the Hand of God that threw the birds into the engines, too? Thanks, God? :confused:

    Anyway, this guy is truly awesome and deserves all the respect he gets!
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    #25

    Jan 19, 2009, 10:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Capuchin View Post
    And it was the Hand of God that threw the birds into the engines, too? Thanks, God? :confused:

    Anyways, this guy is truly awesome and deserves all the respect he gets!!
    If you are going to say God was responsible for one event, then it is safe to assume he was responsible for another event.
    The pilot AND the birds. You can't just pick what you want to attribute to God.
    God is an essence, not a puppeteer pulling strings.
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    #26

    Jan 19, 2009, 10:42 AM

    Humans feeding geese their excess lunch are responsible for the geese.
    But the easy solution is open geese season. A little orange sauce... yum . Crispy Roast Goose w/ Orange Sauce

    Bet it would be a big hit in the homeless shelters
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    #27

    Jan 19, 2009, 12:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Capuchin View Post
    And it was the Hand of God that threw the birds into the engines, too? Thanks, God? :confused:

    Anyways, this guy is truly awesome and deserves all the respect he gets!!
    I don't want to debate how people see God, but it's entirely possible that the birds were there for a reason. What if it was the goal of God to appeal to a single person on the plane to renew or bring that person to faith? To create a circumstance in which everyone survived and the gratefulness of that person who had death potentially knocking on the door could only come about with a near miracle of circumstances.

    Furthermore I said it must have seemed that way to the people on the plane, I didn't say that is what happened. Have you ever had a near death experience and shortly thereafter wondered how you survived as it was against all odds? I'm willing to bet in those grateful moments thereafter most people feel blessed. Only after a period is it likely they will use their intellect to reason away what they for a short time thought of as miraculous.

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