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  • Jan 31, 2019, 08:05 AM
    tomder55
    The Mueller investigation is purportedly winding down .
    AND YET there have been no charges against anyone in the Trump campaign ,or Trump himself that suggest there was any involvement by the Trump campaign in Russian' interference in the election'.
    Do the Justice Department and the FBI still stand behind their representation in their FISA applications, and their publicly announced suspicion to Congressional investigators in March 2017 ,that the Trump campaign coordinated in Russia’s cyber operations ?
    If they do not continue to stand behind their representations to the court ,the public ,and in Congressional testimony , have they corrected the record with the FISC or the House Intelligence Committee (there has not been any public retraction)?
    If they do stand behind their representation, how do they square that position with the indictments filed by Mueller, which have charged no Trump-Russia conspiracy, and which indicate there was no Trump-Russia conspiracy?
    We have known since Feb. last year ,after the troll farm indictments that there was no Trump campaign involvement . The latest Stone indictment confirms that. If the Trump team was involved then they would not have gone to such lengths to try to find out from 3rd party sources what Wilki was planning to release .

    Look ,all these suspicions were needed to be corroborated BEFORE a FISA application was filed . That is why a FISA application is called a verified application. Unlike other proceedings , the only due process anyone gets ,because the application is classified and there are no lawyers to challenge it ,is that the information brought before the court is impeccable . What the Obama FBI did was turn a FISA warrant into a general fishing expedition warrant .
    Devin Nunez ,ranking Republican on the House Intel Committee asked this question week How is it that we are investigating Roger Stone and not Bruce Ohr's testimony that he met with Andrew Weissmann (former Dept Justice attorney and currently Mueller's pit bull) to inform him early in the game that the Steele dossier was the product of a DNC dirty trick ? The fact is that the dossier was the product of the Evita campaign ,and that high ranking members of the Justice Dept knew that ;and did NOT disclose that to the FISA court during the applications.
    There should be no special council investigation unless there is a conflict of interest . So why then was Mueller allowed to appoint an assistant who was clearly conflicted ? Although the American people deserve this information ;I'm sure it will be covered up in the final Mueller report .
  • Jan 31, 2019, 01:53 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    AND YET there have been no charges against anyone in the Trump campaign ,or Trump himself that suggest there was any involvement by the Trump campaign in Russian' interference in the election'.
    .


    You've got to stop reading those Russian hackers putting out this stuff on phony websites, tomder.
  • Jan 31, 2019, 02:34 PM
    tomder55
    show me the charge .Mueller hasn't even charged the obvious ones who had business dealings with Russians or Russian interests with crimes related to interference in the election. He got them for charges that everyone knew about years before the campaign was conceived .He made charges against Russian pajama boys that will never go to court . But nobody in the Trump campaign has been charged with anything campaign related at all.
  • Jan 31, 2019, 07:40 PM
    paraclete
    So we know it is a witch hunt, and we know where the witch is. This is theatre
  • Jan 31, 2019, 07:57 PM
    jlisenbe
    It sure does look like there's no "there" there
  • Feb 1, 2019, 08:23 AM
    talaniman
    I don't know folks, it's hard to believe that after all the indictments and convictions of dufus campaign members and Russians that dufus had no knowledge, or involvement. Who says the Mueller investigation is winding down? Or did you mean it's getting closer to his inner circle? Why does all his peeps lie about contacts with Russia? Why have they kept it from law enforcement AND the intel community?

    Obviously after two years we know not to trust anything that the dufus or his sycophants say without GREAT meticulous scrutiny, or verification. Don't we?
  • Feb 1, 2019, 09:06 AM
    jlisenbe
    Unlike the famous truth tellers, Clinton and Obama?
  • Feb 3, 2019, 03:44 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Unlike the famous truth tellers, Clinton and Obama?

    The dufus is in a class all by himself with his lying.
  • Feb 3, 2019, 05:18 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    The dufus is in a class all by himself with his lying.
    I'll say it again, and you cannot refute it. When Trump lies repeatedly about the cause of a terrorist attack that results in the deaths of 4 Americans, and does so in what certainly, to any reasonable person, appeared to be an attempt to gain his own reelection, then you come talk to me about who is in a class by himself.
  • Feb 17, 2019, 02:28 PM
    tomder55
    CBS News has the story of the century if it wants it . A secret deep state cabal of corrupt FBI agents plotted a coup to overthrow the President and tamper with the results of the 2016 election. Instead tonight on 60 Minutes they are doing the McCabe interview as 'what's wrong with Trump'?
  • Feb 17, 2019, 03:10 PM
    Wondergirl
    When Trump lies repeatedly about drugs and rapists and gangs and sex traffickers crossing the southern border unimpeded, and says that as an attempt to gain his own election AND reelection, then you come talk to me about who is in a class by himself.
  • Feb 17, 2019, 03:42 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    When Trump lies repeatedly about drugs and rapists and gangs and sex traffickers crossing the southern border unimpeded, and says that as an attempt to gain his own election AND reelection, then you come talk to me about who is in a class by himself.
    So you are saying that drugs, rapists, gang members, and sex traffickers are not crossing the southern border largely unimpeded?
  • Feb 17, 2019, 03:48 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So you are saying that drugs, rapists, gang members, and sex traffickers are not crossing the southern border largely unimpeded?

    Certainly not in the numbers the dufus sites, not even close, not historically nor justifies his emergency for a wall that stops no one but women and children which is the majority of migrants.

    How many did you count?
  • Feb 17, 2019, 03:53 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    How many did you count?
    Zero, since I am not counting. How many did you count? For that matter, how would anyone be able to get an accurate count?

    At any rate, the post alleged these things were not happening. Plainly they are.
  • Feb 17, 2019, 03:59 PM
    Wondergirl
    I was using JL's words as I flipped the coin to a different pov.
    **********
    "Plainly they are" -- at the Port of Philadelphia, at O'Hare Airport, across the northern border from Canada.
  • Feb 17, 2019, 04:04 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Quote:

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by jlisenbe https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom...post-right.png
    So you are saying that drugs, rapists, gang members, and sex traffickers are not crossing the southern border largely unimpeded?



    Certainly not in the numbers the dufus sites, not even close,

    This report was in todays news .

    Quote:

    In October 2018, President Trump signed a breakthrough bipartisan bill aimed at dealing with the country’s drug-addiction epidemic, which most people associate with opioids. And for good reason: In 2017, there were 70,237 opioid overdose deaths in the United States — a 9.6 percent uptick from the previous year, according to the CDC.But meth is claiming lives at a rapidly increasing rate as well.In 2017, 10,000 Americans died from an overdose involving psychostimulants (meth as well as ecstasy and some prescribed stimulants) — a 33.3 percent jump from 2016, the CDC reported.And, in Ohio, overdose deaths involving meth have seen one of the steepest rises in the country, jumping 5,000 percent from 2010 (nine deaths) to 2017 (509 deaths), according to a report by the Ohio Alliance for Innovation in Population Health.The rush of meth into the state from the border is overwhelming: “It is raining drugs,” said Taylor Cleveland, an Ashtabula County sheriff’s officer assigned to the task force for the US Drug Enforcement Administration...…..“It’s cheap. And abundant. That is why we are seeing a dramatic escalation of crystal methamphetamine use because it is being shipped to our county at the border. People aren’t making it anymore, because it comes here so cheap from Mexico.”Cleveland says meth labs started popping up in Ashtabula in 2002, but due to a crackdown “in the last 18 months, we’ve seen almost a wholesale elimination” of them. “That void . . . is being filled by Mexican cartels bringing meth across the borders,” he adds.


    https://nypost.com/2019/02/16/mexico...ruining-lives/
  • Feb 17, 2019, 04:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    Hmmm. So drugs ARE coming across the border. Lots of them.
  • Feb 17, 2019, 05:54 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Hmmm. So drugs ARE coming across the border. Lots of them.

    And this is something you are unaware of, but it is those blasted mule migrants (illegals) who are carrying them and what will stop them a Wall but we can't call it a WALL, it must be constructed of bollards in no man's land which is a vacant space in Pelosi's head
  • Feb 17, 2019, 06:52 PM
    jlisenbe
    I think someone needs to get a lot more sleep.
  • Feb 17, 2019, 07:42 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I think someone needs to get a lot more sleep.


    Yes that would be nice, any suggestions as to how to accomplish that

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