Don't know how many of you are aware of the riots here in the Uk for the last 3 nights. Last night was particularly bad. My son had to walk home from work past rioters and fires and a road near where he lives was looted and set on fire. His local banks and food stores were smashed up. What started in London has spread to several cities across the Uk. The prime minister finally decided to cut short his holiday last night and the leaders have an emergency meeting this morning. Let's hope they get some plan together to gain control tonight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14453918

Many are calling for the army to be called out, not sure if we have many troops left who aren't in Afghanistan or Libya though after all the defence cuts...

Here's some further coverage: BBC News - Further riots in London as violence spreads across England

I've seen some pix of the rioters. Would you call them your typical roudy Brit at a soccer match crowd ? Doesn't look like it to me .

My son posted on his facebook: 'Had to dodge flying bricks and fires walking home from work. I have a bush ear-marked to jump into if they set our flats on fire. What could go wrong?'
His sister replied, 'check the bush isn't on fire first... '

Glad they have a sense of humour but not really what a parent wants to be reading!

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I've seen some pix of the rioters. Would you call them your typical roudy Brit at a soccer match crowd ? Doesn't look like it to me .

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Been watching the news on TV this morning and London met are calling it the worst in living memory and comapring scenes to the Blitz. Politicians are saying, 'We will use water cannons,' 'We definitely won't be using water cannon.' 'We might be calling in the army/' 'It is too soon to call on the army.' And even one government member, 'We don't have any army left.'

About time someone got their act together.

London riots / UK riots: verified areas - Google Maps

Just in case you want to check where your closest riots are and how to get directions to them... :(

I suspect the rioters are using 'flash mob' technology .

Reports we have here is that this is organised using twitter and SMS, it is criminal opportunism. Have noted the original incident which involves a person of colour being shot by police, a rare event in the UK, apparently he had something to do with firearms trafficking, so police were armed.
It doesn't seem to matter where you are in the world, whenever someone from a disadvantaged background is killed by police the community goes nuts, immediately it is labellied a racist act and exploited.
I feel for the people in the UK, hooligans have taken over the streets. I fail to understand why police haven't used water cannon or fire hoses
Here is an onsite opinion
http://www.news.com.au/world/london-...-1226111341895

Are there any political issues that is at issue ,or is this just an excuse for an anarchist arson and looting fest ?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Are there any political issues that is at issue ,or is this just an excuse for an anarchist arson and looting fest ?

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Listening to a UK MP interviewed here, he, as an eyewitness, said that they were highly organised groups operating out of residential streets targeting one suburb after another. Just outright criminality taking targets of opportunity. I also noted that the TV shots of perpetraters were of coloured people so these are likely to be low rent coloured areas. There could be a far right anarchist agenda operating here but that isn't being reported yet.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Are there any political issues that is at issue ,or is this just an excuse for an anarchist arson and looting fest ?

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‪London Riots - Scum steal from injured boy.‬‏ - YouTube

This shows what kind of people are rioting

We didn't have any doubts about the type of people who behave like this

Just highlighting the obviousness that it isn't a political riot

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Originally Posted by paraclete

we didn't have any doubts about the type of people who behave like this

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Hello again, clete:

Just as any doubt about your racism has been REMOVED.

excon

Are riots ever performed by white collar people in suits? Anyone have a video of that? Anywhere in the world?

I read yesterday that kids as young as 7 were involved. Really? I hope they get it contained.

It seems that lots of different factions are involved, all following their own agendas. Some of it looks racially motivated. There have been reports of blacks attacking muslims, and other immigrant sections banding together. Plenty of whilte 'hoodies' involved too. I was discussing this with my daughter who pointed out, 'well each group is texting round it's own set of mates, if you're a black gangster that will be other black gangsters, if you're a white chav other white chavs.' That seems a reasonable observation. I think it is morphing as it grows with different agendas being cited as excuses.

A child as young as 11 has been arrested, I know that.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, clete:

Just as any doubt about your racism has been REMOVED.

excon

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What I see Ex are yobbos, mainly black, youths in hooded jackets and masks, and in my opinion the kindest thing that could be done for them is put them out of their misery. The facts speak for themselves, these are criminals, thugs and thieves, arsonists, anarchists and they should be treated to the same violence they inflict on society, a little bit of the old ultra-V..

Now I know that won't accord with your bleeding heart liberal view of life but then I'm not here to please you:D

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Originally Posted by paraclete

and in my opinion the kindest thing that could be done for them is put them out of their misery.

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So if we kill them all does the problem go away?