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Being a Sancutary City...not a good idea?

Mayor Adams, who once was rather proud of the influx of illegals into NYC, has now announced budget cuts to education, police, sanitation, and (gasp!!) LIBRARIES. And what prompted this? Having to pay through the nose to house illegals in hotels by the thousands. Congratulations, Mayor Adams. Why we keep electing loons like him is just a mystery.

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Mayor Eric Adams announced painful budget cuts to New York City services on Thursday that would freeze police hiring and close libraries on Sunday and warned that more cuts would be necessary without additional federal funding to manage the migrant crisis.
The budget cuts would bring the number of Police Department officers below 30,000 for the first time since the 1980s, slash the Education Department budget by $1 billion over two years and delay the rollout of composting in the Bronx and Staten Island — one of the mayor’s signature initiatives to address rats and climate change. The cuts would also weaken two popular programs: summer school and universal prekindergarten.

And, of course, as a typical pol, he is unable to accept any responsibility for the mess or manage it in an adult fashion. “No city should be left to handle a national humanitarian crisis largely on its own, and without the significant and timely support we need from Washington, D.C., today’s budget will be only the beginning,” he said. Yeah, it's always someone else's fault.

The cuts to the pre-K program must be particularly painful since it constrains the city's ability to indoctrinate young children on the wonders of being gay and TG.

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Library leaders announced that the budget cuts would force them to close branches on Sunday starting in December.
“Without sufficient funding, we cannot sustain our current levels of service, and any further cuts to the libraries’ budgets will, unfortunately, result in deeper service impacts,” the leaders of the Brooklyn, Queens and New York Public Library said in a statement.

Mayor Eric Adams Says N.Y.C. Will Slash Budgets For Police, Libraries and Schools - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

This is, as I said above, the same mayor who once welcomed illegals into the city. "Last August, Adams went to Port Authority to welcome a bus full of asylum seekers sent from Texas by Republican governor Gregg Abbot, who argued progressive cities should also bare the costs of the influx of asylum seekers crossing the southern border." That was, of course, before he began to see that his show of love and affection with the money of other folks was going to cost him politically.

NYC Mayor Eric Adams WELCOMED migrants to the Big Apple and was 'proud to be a shelter state' as they arrived on buses in 2022 ... before begging Biden for aid and saying the crisis will destroy the city (msn.com)

COMPLETE THE WALL!! It will then be relatively easy to deal with the 2% who manage to get across or under rather than the 100% who are presently pouring across completely unhindered.

There was no plan once the migrants arrived in this country -- no plan for housing, employment, education, daily food sustenance, medical care, etc. And no limit on the number and legitimacy of migrants entering this country.

Good observation. However, I’m not sure we should have a plan for housing, food, clothing and so forth. That’s their job. But we should certainly exercise control over who comes in and how long they stay. The only way I know to have reasonable control over that is a substantial wall.

Churches and village social groups/organizations and schools can help (at least answer questions) with finding suitable housing, food shopping, English learning, tutoring. We did that for Vietnamese refugees after the Tet Offensive.

I agree with that, but bear in mind that there were about 100,000 Vietnamese LEGAL refugees. These illegals are flowing across our wide-open southern border at a rate of two hundred thousand every month.

Hope you and the hubster are having a great Thanksgiving and that the two of you are doing better these days.

I agree with that. Many more government checkpoints should have been strung along the southern border. Temporary housing, small restaurants, and social services should have been set up. Maybe drones flying overhead too?

Part of our problem was Covid that stalled everything. Another problem was the huge numbers of migrants.

Checkpoints don’t work against this avalanche. Only a wall will do it. Slow the tidal wave down to a trickle.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Checkpoints don’t work against this avalanche. Only a wall will do it. Slow the tidal wave down to a trickle.

How and when did this avalanche begin?

What difference does it make?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

What difference does it make?

For the book I'm writing.

E.g., Venezuela is in the midst of an unprecedented social and humanitarian collapse—the result of bad economic policies and political conflict—that has led to food insecurity, the second largest migration crisis in the world, and regional instability.

When the patient is bleeding profusely, you don’t waste time wondering what caused the injury. You concentrate on stopping the bleeding. Only a wall will stop this bleeding.

In other words, lock the hospital door before he can come in.

An answer which illustrates that you sure don't seem at all to want the border controlled. You seem perfectly willing to have a wide open border with uncontrolled fentanyl and human trafficking, and with the resulting chaos in our major cities such as NYC. It's why so many people oppose the wall. It's not because they think walls don't work, but rather because they know walls DO work, and they don't want that. It sure looks an awful lot like the usual deal of wanting to appear noble by spending someone else's money.

We are not a hospital. We are a sovereign nation which, thanks to liberal dem leadership, cannot find the will to control its own border.

The border doesn't need a scalable wall. Then let's put towers along the top of the wall so marksmen can control things.

And again.

"A (sadly non-serious) answer which illustrates that you sure don't seem at all to want the border controlled. You seem perfectly willing to have a wide-open border with uncontrolled fentanyl and human trafficking, and with the resulting chaos in our major cities such as NYC. It's why so many people oppose the wall. It's not because they think walls don't work, but rather because they know walls DO work, and they don't want that. It sure looks an awful lot like the usual deal of wanting to appear noble by spending someone else's money."

Then elect someone in 2024 who will build the wall. (A wall can be scaled, burrowed under, gotten around at each end, and flown over.)

Yes, walls can be defeated, as can bank vaults, locked doors, internet passwords, guard dogs, and any one of a number of other security techniques that we have the very good sense not to abandon simply because they don't work 100% of the time. Sensible people realize that a device that is 98% or 99% effective is far, far better than an open invitation to law-breakers to just come on in, which is what you favor. All of this has been explained to you repeatedly, so I don't understand what your issue is. Why do you favor the illegal importation of fentanyl and human beings destined for the sex market as well as the ever-growing disruption of major cities from the flood of illegals? What is it about that which you find appealing?

A wall will be a fun challenge that will attract even moreso "the illegal importation of fentanyl and human beings destined for the sex market". "Illegals" will give up; the wall will stop them, the "good guys" whom we DO want in our country.

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A wall will be a fun challenge that will attract even mor

Can you point to any time in history when that happened? Did the Berlin Wall attract more crossers? How about the fence around the White House or the walls around prisons? We have door locks. I haven't noticed people flocking over here seeking a "fun challenge". The banks in our city don't seem to have those thrill seekers coming by in the dozens because they just want to have some fun breaking into the vaults.

I never cease to be amazed at the lengths you will go to simply to avoid admitting that your argument is weak.

You don't read much, do you.

Oh, I forgot!! There is a prison I drive by twice a week. It has a twelve foot or so chain link fence around it which is topped with razor wire. There is a club in our area filled with fence climbing enthusiasts who regularly go to the prison to have a "fun challenge" of climbing the fence. They have such a wonderful time!! [big time SARC]

In all of my reading, I've yet to read about that security wall that attracted so many people seeking a "fun challenge". Perhaps you can point us all to that story.

Surely you have to realize how foolish that contention sounds.

I sure hope you have a library card. You'll need one.

An answer showing that you have nothing to support your argument. Give it up.

How you cherry-pick. I can hear Athos' chuckles.

You were asked to support your ridiculous (my view) contention that many people would view a southern wall as a "fun challenge", and plainly you cannot, so you persist with cherry picking, library cards, and other silliness. It would bother me if I behaved that way, but you seem to like it. It is what it is.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You were asked to support your ridiculous (my view) contention that many people would view a southern wall as a "fun challenge", and plainly you cannot

It's already been done, multiple times!!!

Here's one story (out of many) about it:
https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west...rn-border-wall

This was your contention. "A wall will be a fun challenge that will attract even more so."

I asked, "Can you point to any time in history when that happened?"

Now maybe you can point to any place in this story (which you linked) where the reporter actually saw the wall attracting even more illegal immigration than was happening before, since that was your puzzling suggestion. Can you quote the documentation for that from the link?

You can't, since it wasn't there, so it would certainly appear that you are still sitting on zero. The "reporter", in fact, never claims to have personally seen a single person cross the wall. He only supposedly found evidence that some people had breached the wall. Please start reading your own links.

It's already been stated here, multiple times and quite sufficient for any person with any real interest in the truth, that walls don't completely stop the flood, but slow it down enormously. The same is true, as has also been stated many times, for practically ALL security measures.

I wasn't talking about illegals, but about ANYONE. Sections would eventually be knocked down so the migrating hordes can travel north.

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I wasn't talking about illegals, but about ANYONE.

Uhm...when people sneak over a wall to enter the U.S., they are by definition illegals.

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Sections would eventually be knocked down so the migrating hordes can travel north.

And that has happened when? You couldn't answer my first question so maybe you can answer that one.

An unhappy truth remains. You seem to want to continue this tidal wave of illegal immigration along with the influx of illegal drugs and the human sex trade that accompany it. That's pretty sad.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Uhm...when people sneak over a wall to enter the U.S., they are by definition illegals.

And others who want to prove a point.

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And that has happened when? You couldn't answer my first question so maybe you can answer that one.

Whenever a wall needs to be challenged.

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An unhappy truth remains. You seem to want to continue this tidal wave of illegal immigration along with the influx of illegal drugs and the human sex trade that accompany it. That's pretty sad.

Sad that you don't read carefully.

You want to have it both ways. You want to appear to be against illegal immigration with the drugs, urban problems, and sex trafficking that go with it, and yet not be prepared to do anything at all about it because you want to let the millions of illegals into the "hospital" since it doesn't disrupt your life. Well, you can't have one without the other.

You see, I read your responses very carefully. The truth is evident.

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And others who want to prove a point.

And what point is it you think they're trying to prove? We will not respect nor abide by your laws?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

And what point is it you think they're trying to prove? We will not respect nor abide by your laws?

I/We can get past this wall. It won't stop me/us.

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I/We can get past this wall. It won't stop me/us.

We would need to then teach them a new point. We will enforce our borders.

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We would need to then teach them a new point. We will enforce our borders.

You can't. Too many miles to guard.

Yep. It’s why you need a wall. I’m not content to live with fentanyl, urban disruption, and human trafficking like you seem to be.

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Yep. It’s why you need a wall. I’m not content to live with fentanyl, urban disruption, and human trafficking like you seem to be.

You already do, even before any illegals scale the wall. U.S. homeboys are hard at work, spreading the joy.

I always know when I’ve got you. It’s when you are reduced to making silly posts like that one. It amounts to, “Oh yeah? Well you too, buddy.” Just hilarious!!

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

I always know when I’ve got you. It’s when you are reduced to making silly posts like that one. It amounts to, “Oh yeah? Well you too, buddy.” Just hilarious!!

You don't know about the drug dealers on the streets of East Vancouver and Chicago and NYC and other cities and towns? Several of my Facebook friends are hooked and tell me in some detail how they shoplift in order to buy those drugs.

It's over WG. Only one of us wants to see the illegal traffic on the southern border stopped and that's me. You seem to be just fine with it. You will never, ever be critical of a liberal dem pres no matter what is allowed into this country.