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Democrats Win Control Of Senate

Nevada is in with Democrat incumbent declared winner!! That puts the all-important control of the Senate in Democrat hands. Georgia is moot. Trump reported screaming for hours at Friday's news. Now he's chewing the carpet on all-fours.

Watch Walker in Georgia now getting near nada votes since his runoff against his Democrat opponent doesn't matter anymore. Watch the Repubs bail out BIG-TIME from supporting Walker.

Next up - Civil war between Trump's MAGA and DeSantis, resulting in a shoo-in for Democrats in 2024. .

Yeah, and it only took five days to count the Nevada votes. Nothing to see there.

Had Republican Adam Laxalt won...nothing to see there either.

No matter who wins, the abysmal system in Nevada must be changed. Same is true of Arizona.

The math for the Repubs in the Senate was never great to begin with . Still it was possible to take a narrow lead .

Chance that Manchin jumps parties ? He's pretty raw over the betrayal of his energy deal with Schmuck Schumer . If the Dems pick up Ga. the Dems will be free of any Manchin factor (God help us ) .So there is no need for him to stay in a party that hates his guts .

My big take from this election is that despite my strong opposition to mail in voting ;the Repubs need to adopt a stratergy to accept the reality .(Ballot harvesting should be outlawed . There is where the suspicions of fraud come into play)

The Dems get their voters to the polls . The Dems bank their voters early and then target their adds where they see weaknesses in the turnout . The Repubs miss that opportunity and have to guess what audience to target .
The Repubs get promises from voters to show up on election day . That is a big difference. Over the last 2 cycles and maybe more we have seen Repub leads vanish as truckloads of mysterious mail in ballots get delivered to the counters .

We were fed all this premortems by the compliant press about a red wave . I think some less than enthusiastic Repubs were lulled into complacency.

As one PA Repub leader said ;
“For whatever the reason, we’re not taking full advantage of the process,” Bretz said. “We surpassed our (mail-in) votes. We need to get over the demonization of the process.”

Another said ;“Failure to use the voting options available is like trying to fight a fight with one arm tied behind your back,”
Some Republican leaders say GOP needs to embrace mail-in voting | TribLIVE.com

We can hope all the rules change to pre-covid rules . But I think the genie is out of the bottle.

I agree with the Trump factor . Had Pa Repubs picked McCormick ;a conservative Repub instead of Dr Oz ,McCormick would be Senator elect .

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No matter who wins, the abysmal system in Nevada must be changed. Same is true of Arizona.

delays such as we have seen almost always benefits the Dems . They call us deniers because we have very real suspicions that can't be satisfied with cliches like "cleanest election evahhhhh "

Who disabled 20-30% of the tabulators in Maricopa County? Who made sure there was a shortage of ink in 20% of their printers?
What has happened to the many thousands of provisional ballots that were dropped into unsecured boxes to be “counted later?” Who told workers to hand out sharpies again even after it is well known to not to be readable by the scanners? What happened to the cameras in Washoe County, Nevada? Why were there are repeated late night “ballot dumps”.
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Who disabled 20-30% of the tabulators in Maricopa County? Who made sure there was a shortage of ink in 20% of their printers?
What has happened to the many thousands of provisional ballots that were dropped into unsecured boxes to be “counted later?” Who told workers to hand out sharpies again even after it is well known to not to be readable by the scanners? What happened to the cameras in Washoe County, Nevada? Why were there are repeated late night “ballot dumps”.

Tomder, this is so funny, it would make a good skit on SNL.

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We were fed all this premortems by the compliant press about a red wave

Get over it, tomder, you lost!

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Tomder, this is so funny, it would make a good skit on SNL.

This is what passes now as a serious answer with liberal dems.

Now the House is up for grabs . 21 House seats have not been declared with 10 up for grabs. The Dems magic vote machine has been working overtime and they are within the fraud factor margin of error .

The count now is Repubs 211 and Dems 203 . One of the contested races has both contestants Dems . 6 more will go to the Dems and the rest of the ones not really contested to the Repubs That makes the count Repub3 seats short of a majority and the Dems 6 seats short .

If it was decided now with the 10 seats in doubt .... 6 with Republicans leading, and 4 where Democrats are ahead. the Repubs would win the House .

The Dems keep those pre-filled in harvested ballots coming to the counters .

Even if the Repubs take the House ,there are enough RINOs in the caucus for the Dems to get some of their agenda passed IF the wrong Speaker of the House is voted in(one that would allow Dem legislation to make it to a floor vote ) The Repub caucus will have to be unified in it's candidate or we could wind up with a Speaker who is less than desirable .

One thing is that there is no requirement for the Speaker to be an elected Rep. As an example there are some Dems that are floating the idea of ousted Rep Liz Cheney being voted in as Speaker . That is not likely but it is a good example of the mischief that could happen if the caucus is not unified behind one speaker .

First task for (hopefully) a republican majority in the House is to investigate voting "irregularities".

If the repubs are stupid (corrupt??) enough to select LC, then they deserve to be a permanent minority.

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Who disabled 20-30% of the tabulators in Maricopa County? Who made sure there was a shortage of ink in 20% of their printers?
What has happened to the many thousands of provisional ballots that were dropped into unsecured boxes to be “counted later?” Who told workers to hand out sharpies again even after it is well known to not to be readable by the scanners? What happened to the cameras in Washoe County, Nevada? Why were there are repeated late night “ballot dumps”.

Tomder, this is so funny, it would make a good skit on SNL.

Indeed . The best comedy is rooted in the truth . The problems disproportionately affect Repub voters because of their reliance on election day turn out.

Why is it that Floriday ;a state with 3 x the population of AZ took hours to count while AZ took days ? When Florida elections were the nation's laughing stock the state made the moves to correct them. Arizona is content it appears to continue the status quo .

Why didn't Katie Hobbs who was running in a close race for Guv recuse herself from overseeing the state election or even resign ? 2018 under the same circumstances ,the Dems insisted that Brian Kemp resign in Ga. ...and he did so to end the conflict of interest .

You don't see how these issues lead to the perception that there is just a little bit of chicanery and fraud?

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If the repubs are stupid (corrupt??) enough to select LC, then they deserve to be a permanent minority.

The Dem members get a vote. That is why the elected Repubs need to be unified .

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You don't see how these issues lead to the perception that there is just a little bit of chicanery and fraud?

Read my lips, tomder - YOU LOST!

Read my lips the chances of a Repub loss is direct proportionate to how long it takes to count non-verified ,harvested or ballots deposited in drop boxes. Nothing to see there .

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Read my lips the chances of a Repub loss is direct proportionate to how long it takes to count non-verified ,harvested or ballots deposited in drop boxes. Nothing to see there .

Your desperation is showing, tomder.

I accept that the Repub are going to have to accomodate and accept the rigged system. Some states have tightened voter rolls ;got rid of the dead and out of state vote ...
Wisconsin is a good example of that . Others did well by introducing voter ID requirements .

All of the red states need to do that ;and Repubs in the rest of the states will have to mobilize their voters to cast ballots early instead of waiting for election day when voting machines mysteriously fail or run out of ink.

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Read my lips the chances of a Repub loss is direct proportionate to how long it takes to count non-verified ,harvested or ballots deposited in drop boxes. Nothing to see there .

It will be interesting to see if anyone here can refute this. So far no one has even tried, and that probably says a lot. It certainly does seem to be true.

Here is where we stand with 218 seats needed . Repubs need 6 more seats Dems need 14 . There are 19 more seats to decide, Should be a no brainer Repub majority

But wait !

Alaska at large with the rank choice BS system and 2 Repubs splitting the vote ;the Dem candidate leads but not @ 50% so ANOTHER vote will happena week from tomorrow . Not sure who the Repub candidate will be yet .

Maine 2 also has rank choice BS . Dem in lead Run off scheduled for tomorrow .

Az 1 Repub lead of less than 1,000 votes .....but it is taking time to count mail in because of signature verification process.

AZ 6 Repub has a lead less than 2,000 votes ...same bs as above

Cal 3 Repub has a commanding lead BUT only a little over half the ballots have been counted a week after the election .

Cal 6 is safe Dem and the Dem leads

Cal 13 Repub leads by less than 100 votes Considered a toss up

Cal 21 safe Dem seat

Cal 22 Repub leads by 3,000 votes

Cal 27 Repub has a commanding lead

Cal 34 safe Dem

Cal 41 Repub leads by 4,000 votes

Cal 45 lean Repub

Cal 47 Dem leads +5000 votes

Cal 49 toss up but Dem candidate leads by 13,000 votes

Colorado 3 Lauren Boebert is in a close race that should be a Repb safe seat

Col 8 Dem leads in another should be Repub seat

NY 22 lean Repub is in a close race + 4000 votes

Oregon 6 this is an ALL MAIL IN State with no election day voting . They are still accepting ballots that were post marked by election day . not surprising the Dem leads +4000 votes in this toss up race .

Too many California districts up for my liking .

But 19 seats after a week not finished their count ? This is not recount . This is not run off. This is original counting . come on !!!

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Cal 3 Repub has a commanding lead BUT only a little over half the ballots have been counted a week after the election .

Oregon 6 this is an ALL MAIL IN State with no election day voting . They are still accepting ballots that were post marked by election day . not surprising the Dem leads +4000 votes in this toss up race .

These two are just unbelievable. If we had an honest news media, it would be exposed a dozen times.

The voters sent Sarah Palin and Kari Lake, two strange birds, back into oblivion.

Palin lost to the phony rank choice system .

She may be strange in your view but she was the most successful Guv in state history . Most of the critique of Palin comes from the elite who would not tolerate that treatment of one of their own.Even McCain was a condescending a$$hole . After his defeat he blamed the loss on her and regretted not selecting Joe Lieberman. She to this day speaks of him admiringly despite his despicable betrayal.

Words like sexist ,misogynistic would flow from their mouths if Dem woman leaders were subject to the things Palin routinely endures . Compost columnist Richard Cohen compared McCain's selection of her for Veep candidate as Caligula selecting his horse . Imagine if that was said of Evita . There were more than one suggestion in the media that she was not her daughter Trig's real mother . What male sitting Guv was subject to such ridicule by the establishment ?

The sad irony was that she got along well with the press until McCain elevated her onto the national stage. Then suddenly she was made public enemy #1 . They even tried to pin the shooting of Gabrielle Gifford on her.

They made a caricature of her that stuck . She did not want to ban books .She did not want Alaska to secede . She did not oppose contraception (she does oppose abortion) . She did not "see Russia" from her house (that was a Tina Fey line that the complaint press embraced )

They ridiculed her faith making exaggerated comments about the Pentacostal church she attends ;even though Pentecostalism is one of the most main stream branches of Christianity in America. When one speaks of woman's rights then one could not find a branch more rooted in egalitarian practices.

She ran a bipartisan government very successfully .She ran on anti-corruption and worked hard to implement it . She passed tough anti-corruption laws and her enemies used it against her making her defend her own ethics with her own money fighting one law suit after another . None of the charges stuck.She navigated the corrupt world of Alaska oil and energy politics that was stuck in the days of wild cat era . She promoted Alaskan resource development. She gave the royalties back to the people of Alaska and put the state on a trajectory to financial well being; something that eluded the state since it's 1959 statehood. When she started out as chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission the state was pretty much ruled by big oil. Resources were under developed and revenue left the state. She changed that by changing the culture at the agency and then challenging Murkowsky for Guv. He was in bed with big oil.

She negotiated with the legislature to pass a pipeline construction deal that cut big oil out .She pushed hard for Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Share (ACES)This would not have happened without bipartisan cooperation from the Dems in the state. As a result there was a budget surplus that blunted the worse effects of the Great Recession. Alaska's bonds were elevated to AAA for the 1st time. To this day the state cuts a check to every resident for oil revenue from the state , This year every resident got a $3,000 deposit .

It was an astonishing election. I can only conclude that the American people are happy with empty shelves, high inflation, monopoly money, sky-high gas prices, record levels of illegal immigration, high levels of crime, and a president with a minimally functioning brain. The election of Fetterman was just wild.

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She may be strange in your view but she was the most successful Guv in state history

She was woefully unprepared for national office. In fact, she even bailed out of state office before her term ended.

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In fact, she even bailed out of state office before her term ended.

Like that has never happened before .

It is easy to find the facts .

Since the nation's founding 166 governors have resigned to seek other office or appointments .

16 resigned like il Duce Cuomo and Eliot Spitzer; and Jim Mc Greedy in NJ in disgrace .

37 resigned for personal reasons .

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Be careful with those facts, Tom. They can be confusing!!

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Lake she may be strange . But what I found strange was that her opponent is in charge of running the election ,and counting votes ;and a bunch of voting machines go down on election day , and then it takes a week to count the votes ,and the votes come out in favor of the opponent hmmmm nothing strange about that !

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37 resigned for personal reasons .

She was a good governor, but way over her head on a national stage.

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Lake she may be strange . But what I found strange was that her opponent is in charge of running the election ,and counting votes ;and a bunch of voting machines go down on election day , and then it takes a week to count the votes ,and the votes come out in favor of the opponent hmmmm nothing strange about that !

Nah. Democrats are always honest and perfect. Just ask your partner in crime here. I admit Palin and Lake are good-lookers, but, hey, you can't have everything.

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She was a good governor, but way over her head on a national stage.

Could very well be true. Still, many of the criticisms lodged against her were basically liberal propaganda.

So the person in charge of the process, who did not recuse herself from authority over her own race, whose voting machines inexplicably malfunctioned on voting day, whose security systems went "offline" for 8 hours after election workers went home... you mean THAT person is "always honest and perfect" ?

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THAT person is "always honest and perfect" ?

Yeah. It does sound incredible, doesn't it? I can only hope it was meant to be hyperbole.

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So the person in charge of the process, who did not recuse herself from authority over her own race, whose voting machines inexplicably malfunctioned on voting day, whose security systems went "offline" for 8 hours after election workers went home... you mean THAT person is "always honest and perfect" ?

ESPECIALLY her!! She is well-known to be saintly and fair, humble of spirit, and stuff like that.

The malfunctioning was NOT inexplicable. It was TOTALLY explicable!

Yes and predictable

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Yes and predictable

Yes, she's also very good at predicting. Thanks for reminding me.

Yes, and explicably successful.

Alaska’s sole congressional seat, which had been in GOP hands for 49 years, was recently captured by Democrat Mary Peltola. This is what rank choice voting brings .(it also saved RINO Lisa Murkowsky's bacon .But that is another discussion)

It is an absurd system . If the state insists on having the winner receive a majority of at least 50%+ then Georgia's run off system is preferable. .

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alaska’s sole congressional seat, which had been in gop hands for 49 years, was recently captured by democrat mary peltola.

Thanks be to god!!

We should be thankful that the will of the people was not carried out?

As I have stated previously . It is time for the Repubs to embrace the steal .

Yesterday was a bad weather day in GA ,and rural Repubs were not motivated to go to the polls . Walker got 200,000 less votes yesterday than on election day.Part of that is that Walker did not inspire them as Guv Kemp does in the state. But in interviews and texts many Repub voter has said that they know the fix is in .... so why bother ? This plays into the Dem hands.

To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. (Sun tsu )

Democrats had a much higher turnout compared to their election day turnout .Repubs turnout was less. Democrats wanted it more in Georgia.
Why does it matter ? Because now it is not a split Senate . Dems do not have to share power with Yertle (btw suits him just fine ) Now if Sen Sinema or Manchin play hard to get they can still get Schmucky's agenda passed with Kam the Sham's tiebreaker .

It is time for the Repubs to have a reality check .All the tricks the Dems ramrodded into State rules are not going away . To win elections Repubs will have to embrace the steal and learn to play that game better than the Dems .