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Will this be a rerun of 2020 ?

Election night 2020 ...... Clueless and Jill Biden walked out to greet a cacophony of noise polluting honking cars full of supporters to tell them they were not worried .

“We feel good about where we are. We really do,”

Joe Biden speaks on 2020 Election Night - YouTube

This was before critical swing states that were leaning towards Trump were declared . Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania were determined too close to call by the compliant press and TV talking heads . But they did admit that most states were close to finishing their counts ,

Then abruptly these same pundits announced that these swing states were done counting for the night and would resume in the morning .

Somehow in that time between the suspension of the counts and the final counts were tallied , enough votes were "found" to swing 5 of those 6 states to Clueless.

<sarc>How fortuitous !
Good thing it was the "most secure election evvvvaaahhh or one might think there were " shenanigans " involved . Nothing to see here all you "election deniers "<sarc>

He preached patience 2 years ago and he again lectured us about patience during his "Republicans are a threat to democracy" address last week .

So are we looking at a rerun ?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

This was before critical swing states that were leaning towards Trump were declared . Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania were determined too close to call by the compliant press and TV talking heads . But they did admit that most states were close to finishing their counts ,

Then abruptly these same pundits announced that these swing states were done counting for the night and would resume in the morning .

Somehow in that time between the suspension of the counts and the final counts were tallied , enough votes were "found" to swing 5 of those 6 states to Clueless.

How many times does this have to be explained to you and your fellow conspirators? What is it about plain language that you can't understand?

yeah I've heard all their lies before . The punditry had relied on Bellwether counties to reliably predict the winner previously . Well Trump won almost all of them ...... 18 of 19 .

I'll go with the probabilities .

Bellwether Counties Nearly Wiped Out by 2020 Election - WSJ

Tom supports his contention with facts. Disagree with his conclusion if you want to, but do it with a data-based argument. Intentionally demeaning statements such as, "How many times does this have to be explained to you and your fellow conspirators? What is it about plain language that you can't understand?" add nothing to the discussion. It reflects what I don't like about liberals. It usually boils down to an expectation that we accept what they say because...well, because they say it!

And right on cue, we get this from the White House. Reassuring! [SARC]

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White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was blasted Monday for saying that waiting a couple of days for results is how elections are "supposed to work."
"We may not know all the winners of elections for a few days. It takes time to count all legitimate ballots in a legal and orderly manner," Jean-Pierre told reporters at the White House press briefing. "That's how this is supposed to work."

I especially like the reassurance of knowing, "That's how this is supposed to work." I imagine she said that lie with a smile on her face. In the state of Mississippi, with our limited state financial means, votes will be counted and tallied by midnight.

2020 in France, where multiple parties and candidates run ,it took a matter of a few hours to complete the count and announce the projected results . Almost all French voters cast ballots in person on Election Day. Overseas territories began 2 days early The results were announced in each polling place within one or two hours after the closing time and then delivered to the Ministry of the Interior . Then they were announced nationally . Any slight changes were updates and made available immediately . In every case the initial projections did not change over time. One minor candidate had his projections inch up . But the only results that were critical were the 1st 2 places . Since neither had a 50% majority there was a run off election 2 weeks later .

All very predictable, stable, and reliable. For once we can learn from the French.

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yeah I've heard all their lies before .

If it doesn't agree with you, it's all lies. Yeah, I've heard that before.

The only people that really won in 2020 were the legals employed in the numerous (60+) court cases !!!

Ben ; yes the Goracle let the horse out of the barn in 2000 by denying the election results in court .
Since then every campaign ;even for dog catcher ,needs to retain lawyers .

Interesting that the two Republican presidents in the 21st century BOTH LOST the popular vote, and were the two WORST presidents in US history. One was a war criminal, and the other a crook, philanderer, and moron (quotes from his personally appointed cabinet members). George Bush II and Orangeman.

Clearly the message from last night is forget about 2020 ......nobody cares . Repubs who were Trumpians did not fare well . Neither did Stacy Abrams in GA who conceded ;although it is not clear which contest she conceded 2020 or 2022 .

Trump should move on .He hurt the Repubs . The kangaroo court should be given the boot . American voters said 'nothing to see here ;time to move on '.

Curious about these discrepancies.

Democrat Michael Bennet had a 5.7 point polling lead in Colorado but won by 12.4.

Democrat Maggie Hassan had a 1.4 polling lead in New Hampshire but won by 9.9.

Democrat Patty Murray had a 3.0 polling lead in Washington but won by 14.

Democrat Uncle Festerman had a 0.4 polling deficit in Pennsylvania but won by 2.3.

Republican Ted Budd had a 6.2 polling lead in North Carolina but won by only 3.6.

Republican J.D. Vance had an 8.0 polling lead but won by 6.9.

The undecided races :

Republican Blake Masters had a 0.3 polling lead in Arizona but is behind by 6.

Republican Herschel Walker had a 1.4 polling lead in Georgia but is behind by 1.2.

Republican Ron Johnson had a 3.6 polling lead in Wisconsin but is ahead by only 1.2.

Republican Adam Laxalt had a 3.4 polling lead in Nevada but is ahead by 2.7.

Did the pollsters get all these races wrong ?...... or was there shenanigans in the counting ? Did the red wave run into the Dem fraud factor sea wall ?

The Chairman of Maricopa County's Board of Supervisors just said that there are around 400,000 ballots left to be counted and that they won't be done until "early next week."

banana republic style elections . But no reason to be suspicious of the results

nothing to see here move on

Democrat Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto is in a neck-and-neck race against GOP challenger Adam Laxalt

Officials in Nevada's Washoe County are providing explanations on why livestream cameras monitoring vote-counting went dark from Wednesday night to Thursday morning, saying there was a loss in connectivity that staffers didn't notice until they returned to work. They say the computer managing the livestream lost connection to the camera around 11:30 p.m. Wednesday night, and that that connection was not restored again until just before 8:00 a.m. They claim all the employees had already left for the night . 2020 in Georgia they made the mistake of leaving the cameras rolling . They won't make that mistake again. They claim a patch work of interrupted security camera footage proves that no one entered the building at night

Before the cameras stopped rolling

Republicans outpacing Democratic turnout so far on Election Day in Washoe County | KRNV (mynews4.com)

The next day .....

Washoe County dropped another batch of ballot results Thursday night. This put Washoe in the blue as a county.
The Nevada Senate race has continued to tighten now with Laxalt holding a 1% lead

Cortez Masto draws closer to Laxalt in Nevada Senate race | The Hill

My gosh. This blatant dishonesty is becoming really disgusting.

Laxalt lead down to 800 votes . Bring in another couple of truck loads of pefilled ballots should seal the deal.

Key Largo - Counting Votes - YouTube

Either it is blatant cheating OR gross incompetence. Either way, every honest American should be outraged that those two states are in such a "state".

At this point either side is gearing and lawyered up for a recount , What a disgrace ! I do a disservice to 3rd world countries by comparing our elections to theirs .

When will we know who has won Nevada races? (fox5vegas.com)

a question about ethics . In Arizona the Sec State oversees the elections . But the Sec State Katie Hobbs is the Dem candidate for guv and it is a close race .

Should she have recused herself ?

Ariz. governor race: Next vote count for Lake, Hobbs could be pivotal (azcentral.com)

Interestingly the recriminations have started big time.
Who will the blame game finish with...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63618188

https://www.businessinsider.in/polit...w/95490472.cms

Both to blame . Yertle the Turtle McConnell is more comfortable being minority leader of the Senate .

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qi...71a872065.webp

keep counting until you get the results you want ..

that happened in NH . A seat called for Repubs flipped after a "recount" reversed a 23 vote Dem loss into a 1 vote Dem victory .

GOP margin in NH House shrinks following recount | New Hampshire Public Radio (nhpr.org)

Repubs foolishly are putting Yertle the Turtle in the position of Senate MINORITY leader . Sen Rick Scott ;a disaster in his own right ,challenged Yertle and was defeated . He is being stripped of all Repub leadership duties as a result.

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that happened in NH . A seat called for Repubs flipped after a "recount" reversed a 23 vote Dem loss into a 1 vote Dem victory .

I'm sure there is nothing to see there.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

A seat called for Repubs flipped after a "recount" reversed a 23 vote Dem loss into a 1 vote Dem victory .

GOP margin in NH House shrinks following recount | New Hampshire Public Radio (nhpr.org)

Proof positive the Repubs tried to steal the election on the initial count. The recount established the truth. Just like you guys have been saying all along. There was another attempt to steal in NH which was also corrected by a recount in favor of a Democrat. It's all there in Tomder's link. Thanks, T.

Yeah, it is sure "all there" in Tom's link. There is not a word of repubs or dems trying to cheat. It also points out that this is not for a seat in the U.S. Congress, but rather for a seat in the New Hampshire state House where they have, incredibly, 400 members.

This was one of a mere several dozen recounts in the state. Good thing we have an efficient means of counting votes in our country.

The systems are not likely to change .In fact if the Dems get their way the rigged system will go national.

Part of the problem is Repubs . States that used to be so called swing states are increasingly becoming blue because we are escaping the madness in those states and migrating to red states . I did it .But in my defense NY is hoplessly blue and was bleeding me with property taxes that equaled a second mortgage . If I remained there I would've had to work until I croaked .
But states like PA are losing conservatives so the balance has changed .

Repubs had 5 million more votes than the Dems this cycle ;a swing of 12 million from 2020. But they barely took a majority in the House ;lost by 1 or at best tied the Senate ;and lost 2 Guvs . The Dems have proven the Stalin thesis It is not who votes but who counts the votes that matters . We count votes ;they count ballots . That turns out to be an important distinction .

Hobbs refused to debate Kari Lake.That did not make a difference . Hobbs was Arizona’s Secretary of State and therefore in charge of an election she was running in..

Repubs will not win until they learn to navigate and embrace the fraud .

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Repubs will not win until they learn to navigate and embrace the fraud .

You got that right. At least one Repub guaranteed that if elected they would never lose an election again. The election deniers ran on platforms saying they would control the elections as secretaries of state or election workers. They didn't even bother to hide their plans. THAT was the threat to democracy - eliminating voting as the basis.

Embrace the fraud - indeed!

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The election deniers ran on platforms saying they would control the elections as secretaries of state or election workers.

like Hobbs ? The difference is that Repubs don't shroud their cause in moral and apocalyptic terms such as “saving democracy” to justify the means .

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They didn't even bother to hide their plans.

You mean like Clueless Joe making a prime time address to let us know they would prolong the count until they get the results they want ?

We have seen their MO for 3 elections now(2018 only Madam Mimi predicted a blue wave ) .....close the count down late at night .Bring in the magic ballots and start counting again in the morning .The only big difference from 2020 is that they learned to disable the surveillance video cameras so they would not get caught red handed ,

Had the red wave occurred as predicted by everyone including the Dem establishment I could've believed the 2020 election was just an anomality . Now there is no doubt in my mind that short of every state adopting Florida like reforms that the only chance for Repubs to ever win will be for them to learn to cheat better than the Dems .

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lNow there is no doubt in my mind that short of every state adopting Florida like reforms that the only chance for Repubs to ever win will be for them to learn to cheat better than the Dems .

There never was any doubt in your mind that a Dem election win was, per se, a fraud. Nothing new there.

It's long past time for you to use your mind to examine the FACTS about elections and how Repubs went ON RECORD saying cheating would be the future path to election victory.

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how Repubs went ON RECORD saying cheating would be the future path to election victory

it appears they were prescient in their prediction . The Dems adopted it as an election strategy .The Repubs are too stupid to do likewise .Otherwise they would not have been surprised that the Dems did the same thing in 2022 that they did 2 years before.

Set up drop boxes to harvest votes and bring them to polling locations late at night Dems did it Repubs didn't This time the Dems improved their art of the steal by turning off the video cameras

Joe Biden brags about having “the most extensive and inclusive VOTER FRAUD organization” in history. - YouTube

in Nevada Cortez Masto needed 63% of the remaining 84,000 votes left to count to beat Laxalt . Amazing ......that is what she recieved from the last batch of mail in ballots . What a fortuitous coincidence !

The same thing happened in Brazil .Bolsonaro was in the lead until new ballots were "found " giving Lula the win. Millions of protesters have taken to the streets . Look at all those insurectionists .
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The Repubs are too stupid to do likewise

Perhaps repubs still have some remaining belief in honest government. Cheating in elections is one of the first steps towards totalitarian government.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other (John Adams )

Before joining this site, I believed that there were many areas of governance that people of all political persuasions could agree on since they were rooted in honesty and common sense. Now I'm not so sure. Liberals here cannot even bring themselves to agree that the rule of law and honest elections are important. Their cause has become more important than its underlying moral and legal supports.

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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other (John Adams )

Are you suggesting the Republican Party, and the MAGA crowd, and Trump should all be prevented from participating in government? That sure sounds like what you're saying.

I agree except for the Repub Party. We should give them another chance to clean up their act after exorcising the MAGAs and Trump. After all, they used to be legitimate before Gingrich started their downfall.

So the Repubs take the House and announce investigations into the Biden Crime Family . Then Trump announces his candidacy for President .

So AG Garland suddenly appoints a special council to investigate Trump because he is a candidate for President .

But if he would need to appoint a special council for Trump why would he not have already appointed a special council for Clueless Joe ;Hunter and Jame's Biden's criminal activities ?

Are Hunter and James Biden candidates for president?

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Are Hunter and James Biden candidates for president?

I think the point is that Joe, Hunter, and James are all in this thing together, and Joe is certainly going to run, or at least that's how it appears.

Good to see you posting again.

Then Ivanka, Don Jr, and Eric must be investigated too.

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Then Ivanka, Don Jr, and Eric must be investigated too.

For what?