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It has now become apparent that after John Fetterman's awful debate performance, the dems are going to at least partly acknowledge that it will be his wife who'll be the real senator should he win. Even Biden proclaimed, " (Gisele) is gonna be a great, great lady in the Senate." This after a Rolling Stone reporter called Gisele the "de facto candidate." Might add that GF has discovered that swimming in America is not merely racist, but VERY racist.
why not ? they got away with it with Edith Wilson running the country after Woodrow Wilson's stroke.
What you never heard of white water rafting ?Quote:
swimming in America is not merely racist, but VERY racist.
Ooohhh. I never thought of that! Why is it we never hear of non-white water rafting??? (<:Quote:
What you never heard of white water rafting ?
You two must have really mocked Stephen Hawking's observations and comments.
"I have no sensible reply, so I'll resort to trying to change the subject."
It won't work.
The subject is Fetterman's "awful debate performance".
And it was indeed awful just as Trumps first debate with Biden was awful. Now what that has to do with hawking is unclear.
I don't understand the comparison .Hawking easily understood and processed words and thoughts and used technology to communicate complex thoughts . Hawking never had cognitive issues . Quite the opposite .He was a genius.
Fetterman's stroke deprives him of those skills. Hopefully in the future he will regain those skills .
Currently he does not have those skills due to his stroke and should not be elected to anything until he can.
Shame on his handlers and his wife for permitting it . Shame on the compliant press who failed to honestly report it ;and attacked the one peer who had the integrity to report the truth .
That doesn't surprise me at all. Not only did they hide his condition ;they also allowed him to get away with a false narrative of his accomplishments in Braddock ;the fact that throughout he career he has been a no show leader .
What is disappointing is the fact that people who seem to have good sense are trying to find ways to defend this by using the "You hate disabled people" approach. By that reasoning, we should look for a comatose person to run.
While aphasia and auditory processing disorders can make the speech of stroke sufferers difficult to understand, they do not imply cognitive impairments. Researchers shed light on aphasia and stroke recovery, reporting auditory processing symptoms as a result of stroke do not alter one’s intelligence, behavior, or other executive abilities.
https://neurosciencenews.com/fetterm...ecovery-21751/
They don't rule it out either, so how can you be sure he is mentally fit?Quote:
While aphasia and auditory processing disorders can make the speech of stroke sufferers difficult to understand, they do not imply cognitive impairments
The truth is, if this was a repub, you'd be all over them and declare him/her unfit for office. It certainly seems that you will defend a liberal dem practically to the death.
This just happened in the Spring. He's under medical care. Recovery is supposed to be very possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
How many strokes has Trump had so far?Quote:
The truth is, if this was a repub, you'd be all over them and declare him/her unfit for office. It certainly seems that you will defend a liberal dem practically to the death.
You did not answer this question.Quote:
how can you be sure he is mentally fit?
Trump?? Trump is sharp. I don't like a number of things about him, but I don't see how you can accuse him of mental deterioration. The way he speaks is light years ahead of Fetterman.
Now Biden is a candidate for sure. Just yesterday he declared we have 54 states.
Wrong. It's been clearly stated that his cognitive skills are not affected. His "auditory processing" skills are the skills affected. The press reported it accurately.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Bottom line His handlers and the compliant press insisted that Fetterman ;who suffered a life threatening stroke in May ,is recovering well and “has no work restrictions and can work full duty in public office”. They lied to the people of Pennsylvania and the nation.His ability to hear, understand, process information, and speak have been severely impacted by his stroke.
From my perspective I am happy the Dems continue to run with Fetterman . Had they gone into the general election with Conner Lamb as their flag bearer this election would not be close. But he was too moderate for the new radical lefty progressive socialist Democrat party.
Please don't use the word "socialist" when you don't even know what it means. We've been over this ground before when you couldn't even explain its meaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I did not bother
Not true. Please read the link I added in Post #10. As I said earlier, the same was true for Stephen Hawking because of ALS.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I don't need a link . We all saw what the stoke has done to him . He is incapable at this time to serve as a Senator . But apologists are going to let him get away with claiming that the teleprompter device he was using malfunctioned .
Oh my!!! Those "stokes"!!!
Like Hawking, he can think, he just can't verbally communicate.
Unless you have access to his med records, and you don't, then you have no idea. You're just running interference for the guy because he's a liberal dem.Quote:
Like Hawking, he can think, he just can't verbally communicate.
The part of your article you apparently chose to ignore. "Fetterman has chosen not to release his full medical record, so it’s not possible to draw conclusions about the exact location or extent of brain injury resulting from his stroke." Since your own article says that is the case, then why are you trying to do (draw conclusions) exactly what it says cannot be done?
Stephen Hawking's situation was not caused by a stroke but by a disease called ALS. The two conditions are not related.
I mentioned ALS in Post#18. ALS and a stroke both cause speech impairments. P.S. Please read the ENTIRE article.
At least Fetterman isn't babbling about won-ton murders and peach-tree dishes.
I will if you will.
I did before I posted it.
Then you were intentionally deceitful.
You really love to needle, don't you -- with hopes to whip up an argument.
No, I love to be honest. Perhaps you were honestly mistaken, but after my post 21 you should, I would think, recognize your mistake. It is your post 10 that was in error.
No mistake, Charlie. Read something besides Fox.
No comment from you on Republican comments about won-ton murders and peach-tree dishes?
Trying yet again to change the subject. Oh well.
I'd mentioned them earlier. Post #22.
You need to address this first, Charlene.
Unless you have access to his med records, and you don't, then you have no idea. This is the part of your article you apparently chose to ignore. "Fetterman has chosen not to release his full medical record, so it’s not possible to draw conclusions about the exact location or extent of brain injury resulting from his stroke." Since your own article says that is the case, then why are you trying to do (draw conclusions) exactly what it says cannot be done? That happened when you said, "Researchers shed light on aphasia and stroke recovery, reporting auditory processing symptoms as a result of stroke do not alter one’s intelligence, behavior, or other executive abilities." So were you just rambling, or were you claiming that was true of Fetterman?
The article also mentioned his wife's early intervention: "Because of her early recognition of his symptoms and rapid transport to a nearby facility, Lancaster General Hospital in Pennsylvania, he had the opportunity to receive a clot-busting drug called a thrombolytic and underwent a catheter-based procedure to remove the blood clot from an artery in the brain."
Unfortunately, my younger son did not recognize his symptoms or call his doctor about them and died of a pulmonary embolism. Coincidentally, four days later, my hematologist immediately recognized symptoms of DVT in me and started me on Xeralto to break up clots that were forming in my right leg.
You need to address this first, Charlene.
Unless you have access to his med records, and you don't, then you have no idea. This is the part of your article you apparently chose to ignore. "Fetterman has chosen not to release his full medical record, so it’s not possible to draw conclusions about the exact location or extent of brain injury resulting from his stroke." Since your own article says that is the case, then why are you trying to do (draw conclusions) exactly what it says cannot be done? That happened when you said, "Researchers shed light on aphasia and stroke recovery, reporting auditory processing symptoms as a result of stroke do not alter one’s intelligence, behavior, or other executive abilities." So were you just rambling, or were you claiming that was true of Fetterman?
The article also mentioned his wife's early intervention: "Because of her early recognition of his symptoms and rapid transport to a nearby facility, Lancaster General Hospital in Pennsylvania, he had the opportunity to receive a clot-busting drug called a thrombolytic and underwent a catheter-based procedure to remove the blood clot from an artery in the brain."
Fetterman has been checked into the hospital for the 2nd time since he was sworn in last month .
He could've stepped out of the race after his massive stroke right before the campaign began. His wife could've encouraged him to do so . Guv Shapiro could've .The Penn Dems could've . The compliant press for the most part went along with the charade . And the Repubs chose a weak candidate .
So he became Senator .
You will recall from this and other postings here that anyone who called this out was called being an ableist . This stroke affected his physical functions .It affected his brain he could not process. language he was hearing ;could not speak properly ;could not understand things .We were told we were supposed to ignore all this .
Gisele Fetterman said to just leave him alone .Nothing to see here .He would get better .
Scientific American ran a piece in October ;in the days before the election telling us;Following a stroke, the brain’s own repair processes can lead to a strong recovery in people such as Senate candidate John FettermanJohn Fetterman Shows How Well the Brain Recovers after Stroke - Scientific American
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Aphasia, or the inability to understand or express speech, is very common following a stroke, impacting an estimated third of people who have one. (Fetterman’s campaign has denied he has aphasia, but some of his symptoms are consistent with the condition.) Those who have a stroke in their left brain hemisphere, which serves as the center of language processing in most people, are particularly vulnerable. For the brain to recover, it must modify and adapt to this new injury, a process known as neural plasticity.
Give him a closed caption prompter and all is right in the world . He will be fine .
Well not really .
After the SOTU address he was rushed to the hospital for unspecified reasons .
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoaUwRQX...jpg&name=small
Scans showed he did not have another stroke
But now he has checked himself back into the hospital for clinical depression. It should be clear by now that he should not have been running for Senate .
Sen. John Fetterman is being treated for clinical depression at Walter Reed : NPRQuote:
While John has experienced depression off and on throughout his life, it only became severe in recent weeks, chief of staff Adam Jentleson said in a statemen
What happened in recent weeks ? Oh yeah ,he was sworn in as Senator adding to his stress level .
Now outpatient care means you get some medication maybe have sessions with a mental health professional .But otherwise go about your life. In patient care for clinical depression is very serious business .Quote:
“On Monday, John was evaluated by Dr. Brian P. Monahan, the attending physician of the United States Congress,” the chief of staff said. “Yesterday, Dr. Monahan recommended inpatient care at Walter Reed. John agreed, and he is receiving treatment on a voluntary basis.”
When Is Residential or Inpatient Treatment Necessary for Depression? (pchtreatment.com)
Yet we are assured all will be well and he will be back to himself in no time.
Gisele says leave us alone ;give us some privacy. The best way for privacy while recovering would've been to not enter a Senate campaign.
“After what he’s been through in the past year, there’s probably no one who wanted to talk about his own health less than John,” his wife, Gisele Fetterman, said in a pair of tweets Thursday afternoon. “I’m so proud of him for asking for help and getting the care he needs.”
She asked for privacy during the “difficult time for our family"
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"For us, the kids come first," she said of their three children. "Take care of yourselves. Hold your loved ones close, you are not alone.
Senator John Fetterman checks into hospital for clinical depression (usatoday.com)
The kids come first ? I'd say your political ambitions came first . There is only one reason why he is in the public eyes today . It is because you encouraged him to run despite recovering from a major stroke ;and because the Dems of Penn and the compliant press went along with it . It was more important for him to take the seat than to recover.
Prediction .... the subject of this posting is right on. He will step down and be replaced by Gisele .....who puts the kids first .
Very likely scenario.Quote:
He will step down and be replaced by Gisele .....who puts the kids first .
And the Dems will be able to check off another box .....a Senator who was once an illegal alien .
It has now been 2 weeks and there is a virtual news blackout about Fetterman's health . But we do know that Gisele and their children have left the country .
She says she left to get away from the coverage . To that I ask what coverage ?
His offices says he is fine nothing to see here . We don't need a statement from his staff .We need a statement from his doctors .
Fetterman is hospitalized for clinical depression Bob Casey underwent prostate cancer sugery 2 weeks ago. The people of Pa. have no Senators currently working for them in DC .
What coverage? I have no doubt the Fetterman office and home phones are driving everyone crazy with their ringing. Clinical depression is manageable. Yes, his doctors should issue periodic statements.
Stand by your man.Quote:
Gisele and their children have left the country .
Considering who they are, it's the best possible outcome.Quote:
The people of Pa. have no Senators currently working for them in DC .
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