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  • Oct 28, 2022, 09:21 AM
    jlisenbe
    Pelosi's husband brutally attacked.
    I think we can all agree that this is a terrible event. Hopefully the man will fully recover.

    Quote:

    Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul Pelosi 'violently assaulted' in San Francisco home, spokesperson says. Pelosi spokesperson says 'assailant is in custody,' motivation for San Francisco break-in under investigation.

    I'm a little surprised that the Speaker's home has no security.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 10:55 AM
    tomder55
    I wonder if assailant will get cashless bail
  • Oct 28, 2022, 11:03 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I wonder if assailant will get cashless bail

    Apparently, he's a leftover from the January 6 crowd.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 11:10 AM
    tomder55
    suspect is David DePape .Paul confronted him with a hammer . But he took the hammer from Paul and beat him with it .

    What we need to do is confiscate every assault hammer in the country .

    Quote:

    Apparently, he's a leftover from the January 6 crowd.
    my info is that he is a gay nudist hippie from Berkley
  • Oct 28, 2022, 11:25 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    my info is that he is a gay nudist hippie from Berkley

    He's a right-wing extremist, now married to Gypsy Taub (who's divorced from Jamyz Smith).
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy_Taub
  • Oct 28, 2022, 11:33 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    I'm a little surprised that the Speaker's home has no security.
    Report says there is security only when she is there .
  • Oct 28, 2022, 12:39 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images...post-right.png my info is that he is a gay nudist hippie from Berkley


    Wondergirl;3886024]He's a right-wing extremist, now married to Gypsy Taub (who's divorced from Jamyz Smith).
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy_Taub
    He's a loony tune right-wing nutcase, loves conspiracy theories, and is an election denier. Amazing how quickly the morons on the right placed him as a "leftist".

    As an Independent, I have observed both sides and the right-wing is far more nutty than the left. The nuttiness extends to the highest levels on the right. Nothing like it has ever been seen before in this country.

    Before Trump, I was a center-right independent/Republican. Like Pandora, Donald has opened the world to all the evils and crackpots that have been hiding under the rocks for so long. He wallows in the mud enjoying every minute.

    To point out the sickness of Trump is to support the truth which is almost always the opposite of whatever Trump is proposing or saying. Hence, anti-Trump has incorrectly become "leftist" when it is simply main stream center.

    Now that I have apprised all of you the truth about abortion, I note that tomder has picked the right baseball team to cheer. There's hope for you yet, T.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 01:40 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    He's a right-wing extremist
    Yeah. You know how all those "right-wing extremists" love to advance the cause of public nudity.

    Quote:

    While in California, DePape was an activist who promoted public nudity in 2011 and 2012, California state Sen. Scott Wiener, recalled and told the San Francisco Chronicle.
    DePape lived with Gypsy Taub, another nude activist, and her family. The Chronicle identified DePape in 2013 as a “hemp jewelry maker,” and “father figure” to Taub’s three children.
    The group that DePape lived with also promoted conspiracy theories at the time, including the theory that 9/11 was “an inside job,” the Chronicle reported
  • Oct 28, 2022, 01:45 PM
    tomder55
    I did not say leftist . But I did misread the posting . It says he shouted 'where's Nancy ?' ,and hit Paul with a hammer . I thought it said that he asked 'where's Nancy ?' and saw Paul hammered .

    The left cheerlead riots in the summer of 2020 .They cheered the attack on Rand Paul .
    They were giving out the addressed of conservative SCOTUS members so they could be attacked in their homes.

    I see this as the left's chickens coming home to roost .


    Jl makes a great point . The Pelosi crime family certainly enough wealth to have home security .
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:02 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I thought it said that he asked 'where's Nancy ?' and saw Paul hammered .
    That one made me laugh out loud.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:15 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    “hemp jewelry maker,”
    now there's MAGA for you
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:15 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The left cheerlead riots in the summer of 2020 .They cheered the attack on Rand Paul .
    They were giving out the addressed of conservative SCOTUS members so they could be attacked in their homes.

    Both sides have much to be ashamed of, but the right outdoes the left by a wide margin, and the right includes the leadership which is not true of the left.

    Quote:

    The Pelosi crime family certainly enough wealth to have home security .
    Come on, tomder, stop with the crime family nonsense. It just makes you look dopey.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:18 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Both sides have much to be ashamed of, but the right outdoes the left by a wide margin, and the right includes the leadership which is not true of the left.
    Well that is certainly true. I mean just think of all those repub leaders who cheered on riots and attacks on liberal dem pols. There was...uhm, I'm talking about...so let's see, didn't xxx say something? It's not really important. After all, they SURELY must have said something,
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:24 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Well that is certainly true. I mean just think of all those repub leaders who cheered on riots and attacks on liberal dem pols.

    Especially the uprising at the Capitol on January 6.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:27 PM
    jlisenbe
    Which was denounced by all repub leaders including Trump, so you still have nothing.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:34 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Which was denounced by all repub leaders including Trump, so you still have nothing.

    "Denounced" by the very people who created and encouraged it.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:37 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    "Denounced" by the very people who created and encouraged it.
    When you are shown to be plainly wrong, you double down with an even more outrageous falsehood. You have no more proof for that than you did for your previous statement.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:38 PM
    tomder55
    Look it up . Her father was Baltimore pol . Thomas D'alessandro jr He was in the pocket of Mafioso Benjamin Magliano ....JFK called him a "constant companion" of Magliano . That Baltimore affiliate was associated with the Gambino family .

    Her brother Tommy followed in the old man's footsteps . But he got caught and was indicted for corruption while Mayor of Baltimore . Charges were dropped when witnesses disappeared . Then the crime family relocated to California after they presided over the burning of Baltimore after the MLK assassination .

    I have documented on a number of posts about how Paul's business profits from insider info provided by Madam Mimi
  • Oct 28, 2022, 02:57 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Look it up . Her father was Baltimore pol . Thomas D'alessandro jr He was in the pocket of Mafioso Benjamin Magliano ....JFK called him a "constant companion" of Magliano . That Baltimore affiliate was associated with the Gambino family .

    Her brother Tommy followed in the old man's footsteps . But he got caught and was indicted for corruption while Mayor of Baltimore . Charges were dropped when witnesses disappeared . Then the crime family relocated to California after they presided over the burning of Baltimore after the MLK assassination .

    I have documented on a number of posts about how Paul's business profits from insider info provided by Madam Mimi

    Hmmm... I didn't know any of that. Maybe you have something. But it's hardly polite to include the Speaker of the House in all that. We're not responsible for our relatives.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    "Denounced" by the very people who created and encouraged it.

    After the Jan 6 Committee Hearings exposed Trump as the instigator and planner, it is highly likely the DOJ will indict the poor bastard. Stay tuned for the Trump perp walk and a baldie haircut courtesy of the Federales.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 03:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Hmmm... I didn't know any of that. Maybe you have something. But it's hardly polite to include the Speaker of the House in all that. We're not responsible for our relatives.
    Tom, you've gone from "dopey" to impolite. That's progress!!

    Quote:

    After the Jan 6 Committee Hearings exposed Trump as the instigator and planner.
    Two wild tales in a row.

    Mr. Pelosi is in surgery for a skull fracture. Prayers for his safe recovery.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 03:43 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Tom, you've gone from "dopey" to impolite. That's progress

    Athos, not Tom, said that.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 03:55 PM
    tomder55
    july Paul Pelosi purchased 20,000 shares of Nvidia, a semiconductor company, This purchase happened in the days before Congress passed a bipartisan bill to set aside $52 billion to boost domestic semiconductor manufacturing and give tax credits for domestic production .

    Nancy Pelosi's Husband Just Made a New Round of Big Stock Trades (businessinsider.com)

    CHIPS Act clears Congress, ensuring $52 billion boost to US foundries - The Verge

    Madam Mimi has been a road block to ban stock trading by members of Congress .

    Nancy Pelosi’s Defense of Political Insider Trading Is Orwellian (jacobin.com)

    Due to the collaboration of Paul Pelosi's insider trading and Madam Mimi controlling the Congressional agenda for many years ; Madam Mimi ;according to her disclosure forms ,is worth more that $100 million on a $200,000 a year salary .

    This is just one of many examples that the ruling members of the party of the have nots are in the highest levels of the bourgeoisies class . Bolshevik Bernie as an example lives a modest lifestyle in 3 homes (one in Vermont ;one in DC ;and a quaint rustic lakefront 4 bed room log cabin .Combined his properties are valued greater that $1.5 million. And he is one of the poorer of the Dems .

    Trading stocks on information not publically known is insider trading and it is a crime. Don't believe me ? Just ask Martha Stewart .
    But maybe like Evita trading cattle futures before him; Paul Pelosi is just a very lucky guy being married to one of the few elites where the rules do not apply
  • Oct 28, 2022, 04:04 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Athos, not Tom, said that.
    Yes, and he said it about Tom, and that was my point.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 04:04 PM
    Wondergirl
    We won't divulge financial details about all those wealthy Republicans.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 05:10 PM
    jlisenbe
    You must learn to keep up.
    Quote:

    Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison, Steve Ballmer, Elon Musk, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, and Alice Walton were named as the wealthiest American citizens, all possessing a personal net worth of over 60 billion dollars.
    Quote:

    Nearly all of them are closely affiliated with Democrat politics in various capacities.

  • Oct 28, 2022, 05:35 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    We won't divulge financial details about all those wealthy Republicans.
    by all means do so . The Repubs in Congress who are as unethical as Madam Mimi are swamp critters that need to have the rock they hide under removed .
  • Oct 28, 2022, 05:44 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    by all means do so . The Repubs in Congress who are as unethical as Madam Mimi are swamp critters that need to have the rock they hide under removed .
    Absolutely. As I've said, let the chips fall where they may. Protect no one.
  • Oct 28, 2022, 05:45 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    july Paul Pelosi purchased 20,000 shares of Nvidia, a semiconductor company, This purchase happened in the days before Congress passed a bipartisan bill to set aside $52 billion to boost domestic semiconductor manufacturing and give tax credits for domestic production .

    dam Mimi has been a road block to ban stock trading by members of Congress .

    etc., etc., etc., etc.,

    and Madam Mimi controlling the Congressional agenda for many years ; Madam Mimi ;according to her disclosure forms ,is worth more that $100 million on a $200,000 a year salary .

    Teve me ? Just ask Martha Stewart .
    But maybe like Evita trading cattle futures before him; Paul Pelosi is just a very lucky guy being married to one of the few elites where the rules do not apply

    The 82-year-old husband of Nancy Pelosi has his head battered with a hammer by a right-wing nutcase winding up in the hospital for brain surgery and you take this opportunity to bash his family.

    That tells us more about you, tomder, than about Nancy Pelosi.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 03:01 AM
    tomder55
    He and the Pelosi crime family have been milking the system for decades . I wish him well and hope for a speedy recovery . (I did not hear similar comments when Rand Paul was pummeled by his neighbor )

    The attack on him opens a bunch of related legitimate discussion


    Here's one ; His attacker will be charged and probably denied bail . He will not be released bail free. Congressman Lee Zeldin ;candidate for NY Guv. was attacked on stage and only escaped serious or perhaps fatal injury because he fought his attacker off . His attacker was initially released bail free and that was only reversed after tremendous pressure to do so.

    Across the country Blue states and cities have adopted similar no bail provisions . Maybe now that a prominent Dem has been attacked perhaps it will highlight the need to reverse such folly positions .
  • Oct 29, 2022, 03:37 AM
    jlisenbe
    Funny how some people are more concerned about a supposedly offensive statement against the Pelosi family than about the Pelosis milking the system for illegal gain.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 04:39 AM
    tomder55
    The San Fran Chronical describes Depape as a prominent nudist activist and hemp jewelry maker from Berkeley, and a member of the Green Party......clothed only in his underwear .

    Who is David DePape? How suspect in Paul Pelosi attack descended into online hate (sfchronicle.com)

    Not exactly your typical "right-wing nutcase".


    Supposedly the neighborhood has security cameras all over the place. However in lawless San Fran ;even the elites are not immune from break ins .

    Attorney Hammet Dhillon tweeted :

    The level of security for most people in SF is at an all-time low in the 20+ years I’ve lived here. Even in wealthy neighborhoods, hot prowl burglaries are common, almost routine, no one feels secure. If this can happen to the Pelosis (where was security?) what about rest of us?

    Harmeet K. Dhillon on Twitter: "We have been to many social events in the immediate vicinity as well. There are security cameras everywhere, and many homes have private security. Whatever happened, law enforcement should have plenty of evidence to get to the bottom of it and find the attacker(s)." / Twitter

    I question why it would surprise her .The city turns a blind eye to crime when it mostly affects the poor and minority . Why wouldn't it eventually filter up to those who think they live in impenetrable castles ?
  • Oct 29, 2022, 05:33 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Not exactly your typical "right-wing nutcase"
    It is interesting that both of the libs on this site immediately ran with the conclusion that the man just had to be a right winger when, as it turns out, he was not. At least not unless the Green Party has suddenly moved itself dramatically to the right, and advancing public nudity has become a conservative talking point.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 07:34 AM
    tomder55
    Curiouser and curiouser .

    In back and forth radio chatter about the incident at the Pelosi home, one dispatcher said: “RP [Reporting Person Mr. Pelosi] stated that there’s a male in the home and that he’s going to wait for his wife. RP stated that he doesn’t know who the male is. Be advised that his name is David, and that he is a friend. RP sounded somewhat confused.”
    Paul Pelosi Attack: Police Scanner Gives Eerie Insight Into Break-In (sfstandard.com)
  • Oct 29, 2022, 02:05 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Look it up

    I looked it up. It's basically a smear job to divert attention away from Paul Pelosi being brutally attacked in San Francisco. Your timing is repellent.

    Quote:

    . Her father s Baltimore pol . Thomas D'alessandro jr He was in the pocket of Mafioso Benjamin Magliano
    Smear. It was investigated and never corroborated. JFK appointed him to the Federal Renegotiation Board in 1961 despite the investigation into alleged associations. More smear.

    Quote:

    Her brother Tommy followed in the old man's footsteps . But he got caught and was indicted for corruption while Mayor of Baltimore .
    There is no record of any indictment nor charges being dropped when witnesses disappeared. I'll give you a chance to corroborate this.

    Quote:

    . That Baltimore affiliate was associated with the Gambino family
    So what? No connection, but you say it anyway. Shades of Joe McCarthy and his weasel Roy Cohn, Trump's idol.

    Quote:

    Then the crime family relocated to California after they presided over the burning of Baltimore after the MLK assassination
    Dear God, this sounds like they absconded to California after starting the burning and looting and riots after MLK's assassination.


    Tomder, you are without shame for posting this crap from over 50 years ago and which has nothing to do with Nancy Pelosi today. When will you ever learn that your lies and misstatements can always be checked and verified on the internet.

    You are just like much of the right-wing who post BS with no basis in reality. I long for the days of decent Republicans. It is disheartening to discover so many are silent in the face of evil.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 02:58 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    You are just like much of the right-wing who post BS with no basis in reality.
    Athos...always good for a laugh. No one offers up more unsupported nonsense than he does, and no one engages in more name calling than he does.

    Quote:

    I looked it up. It's basically a smear job to divert attention away from Paul Pelosi being brutally attacked in San Francisco.
    Perfect example. It's just a smear job. How do we know that? "I looked it up." Oh, I see. If Athos looked it up, then why didn't he link or document what he found? We are just asked to believe him because...well, just because. Now perhaps his contention is true, but other than just accepting his word for it, we have nothing. And just taking his word for it is what he is claiming Tom wants.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 03:28 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Athos...always good for a laugh. No one offers up more unsupported nonsense than he does, and no one engages in more name calling than he does.

    Athos is correct. It's very obvious actually.
    Quote:

    Perfect example. It's just a smear job. How do we know that? "I looked it up."
    No looking up is needed. Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 03:36 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Athos is correct. It's very obvious actually.

    No looking up is needed. Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on.
    And yet another perfect example. Name calling and unsupported statements are all that is offered. Sorry, but people with a whole brain expect you to support your ideas. But you are right in one way. We can certainly see what is going on here. It is indeed "very obvious". You have ideas for which you have no documentation.

    If, as you say, "No looking up is needed," then why did Athos say he looked it up? Even he doesn't follow your advice.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 03:41 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    And yet another perfect example. Name calling and unsupported statements are all that is offered.

    When I post support, you twist and shout and cherrypick. Open your eyes and see it for yourself!!! It's out there, very visible.
  • Oct 29, 2022, 03:58 PM
    tomder55
    nah If I was going to make an unsubstantiated claim I would say that Paulie and Davey were Greco-Roman wresting in their underwear and things got out of control . Hoping they got their monkey pox vaccine.

    Notice no one refuted the insider trader claim I made . Oh that's right .It is not a crime because Madam Mimi prevented it from being a crime .
  • Oct 29, 2022, 04:00 PM
    jlisenbe
    See what I mean? Any poor excuse is used to cover up the fact that you have no support at all. And like I said earlier, I'm not saying anyone is wrong because I don't know, but I do know that just saying we should believe you because, "It's out there, very visible" is a game for children. If that's true, then link it. Otherwise, don't expect people to just blindly accept your ideas.

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