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New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan refuses to debate Don Bolduc .She said she would do it if there were a stand alone forum without Bolduc being present .

Arizona Democrat Guv candidate Katie Hobbs refused to debate Kari Lake saying that it was pointless to debate a conspiracy theorist. Seems that if Lake was taking unsupportable positions it would be beneficial to take her to task on a state and national stage.
Meanwhile she refuses to answer questions about limits on her abortion on demand positions

Pennsylvania has a 2 fer 1

Already have commented about Uncle Ferster Fetterman refusal to debate until well after early voting started ;and his refusal to debate without a personal lap to so he can read the questions (and perhaps get answer prompts ? )

The Guv race has Dem Josh Shapiro v Doug Mastriano ,Shapiro refused a debate after his opponent suggested they each pick their own moderators .

Washington Patty Murray initially refused to debate Tiffany Smiley .Now the pressure got to her and she has agreed to 1 debate

Raphael Warnock initially refused to debate Hershel Walker .They have had their 1 debate .

It does the public a big disservice if all campaign events are staged events . We deserve to hear them in a live setting exchanging their views and challenging each other's positions .

But in today's environment we get staged dog and pony shows for towm halls ;and media commercials . Even the January 6 kangaroo court is staged and professionally produced by a movie producer .
Live debates are the only opportunity to see our potential representatives in a high pressure unscripted environment .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Even the January 6 kangaroo court..........

Kangaroo court?

Do you think the mob's attack on the Capitol should not be investigated? Does that mean you approve of the attempt to overthrow the government?

Running Hershel Walker as a senate candidate is a disgrace and a shame to the Republican Party. No fault of Walker's. I think he may be brain-damaged from his years in the NFL.

their's is not an investigation . It is a production with a predetermined outcome.

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Does that mean you approve of the attempt to overthrow the government?

Democrat propaganda. "It is a production with a predetermined outcome," is exactly correct. It's nothing more than the incessant bleating of the political sheep.

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Running Hershel Walker as a senate candidate is a disgrace and a shame to the Republican Party. No fault of Walker's. I think he may be brain-damaged from his years in the NFL.

Yeah, and Abrams and Fetterman are both the gold standard for candidates. And that's not to mention the current occupant of the White House who can't figure out who's dead and who's alive.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

their's is not an investigation . It is a production with a predetermined outcome.

Of course, it's an investigation.

If it's a predetermined outcome, how do you explain the many witnesses from Trump's inner circle testifying to the truth of what happened, and consistently showing Trump as the instigator? These witnesses were certainly not "predetermined". In fact, they were initially hostile and some had to be subpoenaed to testify.

It's ok to be emotional about issues, tomder, but when the facts are so obvious, it's time to drop the emotion and accept the truth.

You are an ableist .Walker has Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) as a result of trauma he experienced in childhood . Do you say the same things about Fetterman who has demonstrated he no longer can handle the job (not that he ever could )?

Due to his challenges Walker devotes a lot of his efforts to the cause . He was appointed spokesman by Universal Health Services for rheir 'Patriot Support Program' .He visits hundreds of military bases sharing his story to help remove stigmas around mental health. He also wrote 'Breaking Free' a memoir chronicling his battle with DID .That has encouraged thousands who face similar struggles to ask for help and seek treatment.

Besides his brilliant collegiate and professional football career he has succeeded athletically in track and field (he broke the world record in the 60 yard dash) He is a black belt in Tae Kwan Do. He went undefeated in mixed martial arts ;AND he professionally performed ballet at the Fort Worth Ballet .
Walker is also more qualified than many people who hold elective office just by the fact that he successfully created and is CEO of successful businesses . H. Walker Enterprises, LLC and Renaissance Man Food Services, have become food service lines to major hotel chains, the US military, schools, concessions, and retail chains around the nation .

He is not a professional politician A big plus in my book

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Walker has Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) as a result of trauma he experienced in childhood .

If Walker has a mental disease since childhood, why is he running for senator? He couldn't even understand the simple insulin issue yesterday. God forbid anybody gets diabetes within arm's reach of Walker.

He is running for one reason - he will be a yes vote for Trump no matter the issue. He lacks the brain power to analyze any issue. That's what your leader wants in all of his worshipers.

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Do you say the same things about Fetterman who has demonstrated he no longer can handle the job (not that he ever could )?

No, I do not. Fetterman has demonstrated no such thing. His televised interview showed him able to answer intelligently any question posed to him. He temporarily needs visual clues for his auditory difficulty, but that's common among stroke victims and will soon be totally healed.

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Due to his challenges Walker devotes a lot of his efforts to the cause . He was appointed spokesman by Universal Health Services for rheir 'Patriot Support Program' .He visits hundreds of military bases sharing his story to help remove stigmas around mental health. He also wrote 'Breaking Free' a memoir chronicling his battle with DID .That has encouraged thousands who face similar struggles to ask for help and seek treatment.

Besides his brilliant collegiate and professional football career he has succeeded athletically in track and field (he broke the world record in the 60 yard dash) He is a black belt in Tae Kwan Do. He went undefeated in mixed martial arts ;AND he professionally performed ballet at the Fort Worth Ballet .
Walker is also more qualified than many people who hold elective office just by the fact that he successfully created and is CEO of successful businesses . H. Walker Enterprises, LLC and Renaissance Man Food Services, have become food service lines to major hotel chains, the US military, schools, concessions, and retail chains around the nation .

All of that is admirable and I applaud him for that. But a senator, directly affecting my civic life? Not a chance.

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He is not a professional politician A big plus in my book

Mine too, but Walker needs a lot more than that.

good for you don't support him . The only REAL reason you say things about him is because he has Trump's endorsement .

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Originally Posted by Athos

If Walker has a mental disease since childhood, why is he running for senator? He couldn't even understand the simple insulin issue yesterday. God forbid anybody gets diabetes within arm's reach of Walker.

Why then are repubs crabbing about Biden's supposed mental deficits?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

The only REAL reason you say things about him is because he has Trump's endorsement .

ABSOLUTELY, tomder! You're finally getting it. A Trump endorsement is the same as being endorsed by a malignant narcissistic sociopath.

In Hershel's case, no way in the world would he be running if Trump didn't want him.

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Why then are repubs crabbing about Biden's supposed mental deficits?

simple he is the leader of the free world and has shown repeatedly he is not mentally up to the task .

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ABSOLUTELY, tomder! You're finally getting it. A Trump endorsement is the same as being endorsed by a malignant narcissistic sociopath.

In Hershel's case, no way in the world would he be running if Trump didn't want him.

glad I finally peeled the onion and saw that your concerns about his mental fitness was smoke screen

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Why then are repubs crabbing about Biden's supposed mental deficits?

Absolutely incredible question. I mean, do we really wonder why someone would be concerned that our president has lost several important marbles?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Absolutely incredible question. I mean, do we really wonder why someone would be concerned that our president has lost several important marbles?

So what are we going to do about Hershel Walker and Trump?

let the voters decide . Walker won the Georgia Repub primary . So it has much more to do than just a Trump endorsement .

why did Warnock duck a debate with Walker and then reluctantly accept to one if debating the "mentally challenged " Walker was going to be a piece of cake ?

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So what are we going to do about Hershel Walker and Trump?

We will hope we can get back to the economic success of the Trump years. As for walker, it is surprising to see anyone pass up mentioning Fetterman, who has no business being on a small town city council much less the U.S. Senate. He cannot understand verbal questions much of the time. Come to think of it, he'd fit right in with Biden!!

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

We will hope we can get back to the economic success of the Trump years.

Is that all you care about? -- money??? Oh yeah, you'll need it when you care for and support all those fetuses that weren't aborted.

What a foolish comment. Money? Have you given all of yours away? If not, then why not? Is that all you care about?

Yeah I care about money. I care about the economy since everyone is dependent on it for shelter, food, transportation, health care, and so forth. I know you prefer for the unborn babies to be killed, but I have happily helped to support those who survive the abortion mills and will continue to.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

What a foolish comment. Money? Have you given all of yours away? If not, then why not? Is that all you care about?

Is that all Trump cares about?

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I know you prefer for the unborn babies to be killed, but I have happily helped to support those who survive the abortion mills and will continue to.

And I have counseled pregnant women and helped them figure out ways to keep their babies despite personal and marital problems.

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Is that all Trump cares about?

You would have to ask him. I think the millions of people who had good jobs due to record low unemployment rates were grateful. It's only the well-off people like you that scoff at such things. The nation would be far better off if Biden cared more about a good economy. It would be better than the recession we are currently in.

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And I have counseled pregnant women and helped them figure out ways to keep their babies despite personal and marital problems.

Good for you!! I suspect you have also counseled pregnant women to have abortions, but at least you have done the right thing on some occasions, and for that I commend you.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You would have to ask him. I think the millions of people who had good jobs due to record low unemployment rates were grateful. It's only the well-off people like you that scoff at such things.

I wasn't "well off" most of my life (as a grocer store clerk, typist for an insurance company, PT aide, Lutheran teacher, library worker, psychotherapist on a sliding scale) -- only because my younger son willed me his house when he died four years ago.

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Good for you!! I suspect you have also counseled pregnant women to have abortions, but at least you have done the right thing on some occasions, and for that I commend you.

I've NEVER suggested someone get an abortion.

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I wasn't "well off" most of my life (as a grocer store clerk, typist for an insurance company, PT aide, Lutheran teacher, library worker, psychotherapist on a sliding scale) -- only because my younger son willed me his house when he died four years ago.

Then I would think you would appreciate the value of a sound economy rather than being so dismissive of it. Besides, I suspect you were far more well off than you imagine.

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I've NEVER suggested someone get an abortion.

Why not?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Then I would think you would appreciate the value of a sound economy rather than being so dismissive of it. Besides, I suspect you were far more well off than you imagine.

Nope. Our very small starter home is now our retirement home. No frills, no flashy cars, no fancy clothes. Boring, very boring.

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Why not?

I believe in alternatives and have always helped women find them.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

glad I finally peeled the onion and saw that your concerns about his mental fitness was smoke screen

Not remotely a smoke screen - no idea why you would say that.

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Nope. Our very small starter home is now our retirement home. No frills, no flashy cars, no fancy clothes. Boring, very boring.

Even if all of that is true, you are still very well off.

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I believe in alternatives and have always helped women find them.

But that's what I'm asking you. Why are your "alternatives" somehow superior to having an abortion?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Even if all of that is true, you are still very well off.

We are very much loved. That's our blessing.

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But that's what I'm asking you. Why are your "alternatives" somehow superior to having an abortion?

Helping a scared or sorrowing fellow female find a path to travel on and thus find healing.

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Helping a scared or sorrowing fellow female find a path to travel on and thus find healing.

Why is it that an abortion was never the best choice to accomplish that?

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Why is it that an abortion was never the best choice to accomplish that?

Maybe it was for some.

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Maybe it was for some.

Then why didn't you recommend it?

Was it ever the best choice for the unborn child?

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Then why didn't you recommend it?

We talked about the situation, why and how she became pregnant, the future, and her options.

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Was it ever the best choice for the unborn child?

Yes. It was her decision, not mine.

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We talked about the situation, why and how she became pregnant, the future, and her options.

But you said earlier that as far as the choice of abortion being the best choice was concerned, "Maybe it was for some." If that's the case, then why didn't you recommend it?

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Yes. It was her decision, not mine.

How does that make killing the unborn child the best option for the child? If someone kills a friend of yours, can they defend that action by saying, "It was my decision, so it's OK?" That's pretty bizarre reasoning. The mom deciding to kill her unborn baby...benefits her unborn baby??? Whaaaatt?

So you did have some of these ladies you consulted with choose abortion?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

So you did have some of these ladies you consulted with choose abortion?

I was not privy to their decision.

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If that's the case, then why didn't you recommend it?

I did not recommend. The decision was hers.

It always comes down to a question that remains unanswered since it is deemed too dangerous to deal with.

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But you said earlier that as far as the choice of abortion being the best choice was concerned, "Maybe it was for some." If that's the case, then why didn't you recommend it?

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I did not recommend.

That's not what you said earlier. "And I have counseled pregnant women and helped them figure out ways to keep their babies despite personal and marital problems."

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It always comes down to a question that remains unanswered since it is deemed too dangerous to deal with.

We discussed pros and cons. She made the choice. I was not involved in and privy to that information.

So they decided to have an abortion and you did not attempt to persuade them otherwise.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

So they decided to have an abortion and you did not attempt to persuade them otherwise.

"Persuading them" to take a certain action was not part of the counseling process.

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https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom...post-right.png
glad I finally peeled the onion and saw that your concerns about his mental fitness was smoke screen

Not remotely a smoke screen - no idea why you would say that.

Because your initial objection to him was what you believe was mental deficiencies caused by PTSD I guess related to his years playing football. But in reality your only objection to his candidacy is your own TDS issues .

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"Persuading them" to take a certain action was not part of the counseling process.

So then not only did you never recommend an abortion, it would certainly seem that you never recommended anything. How convenient.

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But in reality your only objection to his candidacy is your own TDS issues .

Exactly correct. It's what's at the core of many decisions by liberal democrats.

Back to the main topic of the thread....

The rivals for Illinois governor (incumbent Pritzker and farmboy Bailey) had two debates. The second one ended with an exchange of compliments. Pritzker complimented Bailey on his long, 36-year marriage, and Bailey complimented Pritzker on his suit: "Governor, I'm going to be honest with you. You look awesome. I like your suit. You look good in it, and I think that's awesome. I hope that after the election we could come to terms, and maybe you could take me suit shopping."

do you really thing Bailey has a shot in the land of the Daley machine ?

I strongly agree with one of his positions . As a member of the Illinois House of Reps he sponsored a resolution to have Chi-town and it's burbs become their own state. That would free the land of the Illinois "farm boys " you so despise living in Wabash Valley to live in a state that serves their interests too .