“You’re not going to — maybe — like this. We should be paying the Brazilians not to cut down the forests. We got to cut ours down. We got to cut ours down. We got the benefit of it. We’ve got these third world countries — not third world, some are — in Africa and in South America. We got to — the industrial countries have to help,”

Decipher ;he wants the US to pay Brazil to not cut down the Amazon.

He also pledged billions to make our military vehicles and fleet "environmentally friendly .

My previous post noted how often he travels to his Delaware home . HInt ;he is not commuter Joe taking AMTRAK . And what is the carbon footprint on his many homes ? He admits that he doesn't practice what he preaches which gives him a positive over the likes of Leo DeCrapio and Greta Thunberg . He is slightly less a hypocrite .

He also lied through his a$$ claiming that he has asthma . That did not show up on his last medical report . He has claimed he has it for years when it served his purpose like getting out of joining the military during Vietnam. His asthma did not bother him in the least when he speaks of his high school football exploits or his time as a life guard .

I guess as President he has become slightly more environmentally friendly . He is no longer permitted to drive around in his 1968 Corvette .

and now a word from the emperor

When it comes to climate change, time really is running out. Earth Day is a reminder that if we pledge to do our part and then follow through on those commitments, we can help preserve and protect our planet for future generations.

Here is the emperor's Marthas Vinyard home .https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ-hfkyW...jpg&name=small

Lots of green space, vegetation, large open areas.

Enormous uses of energy to heat, cool, light, etc. So much for reducing the ole carbon footprint. Same thing was true of Al Gore. He owns several houses including one in Nashville of which this is true. "In the last year, Gore’s Nashville home used enough energy to power a typical house in America for 21 years..."

https://www.iheart.com/content/2017-...l-would-cover/

Did this in 2010.

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(LOS ANGELES, CA) -- In a move that critics may cite as his own inconvenient truth, former Vice President Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, have added a house in secluded Montecito, Calif., to their real estate holdings.

The couple spent $8,875,000 on a gated ocean-view villa on 1 1/2 acres with a swimming pool, spa and fountains, according to real estate sources familiar with the deal. The Italian-style house has high ceilings with beams in the public rooms, a family room, a wine cellar, terraces, six fireplaces, five bedrooms and nine bathrooms in more than 6,500 square feet of living space.

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I don't care what they live in, but I do object to their moralizing about climate change while being major contributors to atmospheric CO2.

If you were worth $70 million or a bit more, where would you live and what would your palatial estate look like?

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We should be paying the Brazilians not to cut down the forests.

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Never ceases to be amazing. We are running enormous budget deficits, and yet we are to use money we don't have to pay Brazil to not cut down their own trees. Incredible. The great red wave cannot come too soon.

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If you were worth $70 million or a bit more, where would you live and what would your palatial estate look like?

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Perhaps you missed this. "I don't care what they live in, but I do object to their moralizing about climate change while being major contributors to atmospheric CO2."

Those Brazilian forests are keeping you alive.

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Perhaps you missed this. "I don't care what they live in, but I do object to their moralizing about climate change while being major contributors to atmospheric CO2."

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What do you suggest regarding housing? (P.S. How are they major contributors to atmospheric CO2?)

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Those Brazilian forests are keeping you alive.

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Nope.

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What do you suggest?

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Put their home where their mouth is.

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If you were worth $70 million or a bit more, where would you live and what would your palatial estate look like?

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It wouldn't be on the ocean front if I was concerned with rising sea levels . Now the emperor is building another ocean front mansion in Hawaii .

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Nope.
Put their home where their mouth is.

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Yep, it is. Good thing you're old and won't have to witness the end of this world.

They couldn't have made a better choice! Sorry you're so envious.

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Those Brazilian forests are keeping you alive.

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if I cut down an acre of Brazillian rain forest and plant an acre of corn ;the vegetation I plant still has the same carbon reducing properties .

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Yep, it is. Good thing you're old and won't have to witness the end of this world.

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You'll need some data to back that contention up. You can look that up after you post that legal analysis you promised a week ago.

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They couldn't have made a better choice! Sorry you're so envious.

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I can only say it again. I don't care what they live in. Couldn't care less. It is their gross hypocrisy I object to and which you evidently approve of. Strange.

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if I cut down an acre of Brazillian rain forest and plant an acre of corn ;the vegetation I plant still has the same carbon reducing properties .

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Let's suppose you're a little off. Maybe it takes three acres of corn to equal one acre of rain forest. Well, we still have the solution.

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Let's suppose you're a little off. Maybe it takes three acres of corn to equal one acre of rain forest. Well, we still have the solution.

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Apparently you aren't from corn country. Growing corn is a major contributor to air pollution.

let's stop growing food . yeah that's the ticket

John the Baptist ate locusts and honey.

good for him Jesus ate unleavened bread that had to be grown in the ground . The left has no answers except to snuff babies .

Unleavened bread is basically a wheat cracker. Cf. wheat Ritz cracker.

Agriculture contributes about one-third of all greenhouse gas emissions. That includes the emissions from deforestation to create farmlands.

Need some data to back that one up as well.

yes wheat has to be grown . btw I have read all the envirowacko studies advocating bug consumption to save the planet . It is for nonsense like that proposition why I will never believe that scientists should rule the planet .... especially Herr Doctor who said courts should defer to public-health experts like him.
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I was just taking a bit of time out of my busy schedule to liven up this site. Mission accomplished!

Tom, as it turns out, was spot on.

Trees

by Joyce Kilmer

I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth’s sweet flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in Summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.

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yes that ancient tree should be preserved in the endless field of grass .In NY I had century old 125' tall ;sycamore on my property .I had branches fall that were bigger than most new trees . I kept seed pods and have planted 2 on my new property . That doesn't change the reality that humans need cleared land converted to farm land to survive .

Humans, stop reproducing!

What a plan.

Give each pregnant woman shots of estrogen and progesterone.

Malthusianism leads to eugenics .But of course social Darwinism is a hallmark of the progressive left . Abortions of course;forced sterilization of the unworthy have all been done in the name of Malthusian population control .

This has nothing to do with abortions or sterilization. Healthy babies will be born.

Abortion has a lot to do with healthy babies being born. For that matter, so does sterilization, so not sure what your point is other that humans need to stop reproducing.

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Abortion has a lot to do with healthy babies being born. For that matter, so does sterilization, so not sure what your point is other that humans need to stop reproducing.

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You definitely missed the point! Think about it.

then again there's this
https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...EQ&oe=6269B131

Abortion and forced sterilization have everything to do with population control. Also, dictatorial states have imposed draconian one child policies and have had termination polices of undesirables.
Even free countries infected with progressive indoctrination have walked down that path.

Do I have to remind you of America's role? “Better to be cruel to be kind.” .....“those in power knew best what was good for the vulnerable and weak” ('The Evolution of Everything 'by evolutionary biologist Matt Ridley )
1927 Buck v Bell ,SCOTUS legalized sterilization of undesirables in the US. 70,000 Americans were victims of that policy.

Margaret Sanger ,the mother of the modern abortion industry was both a Malthusian eugenicist and a racist . Her Planned Parenthood was designed to exterminate Blacks . She was a clear advocate of selective breeding .

Paul Ehrlich's 1968 'The population Bomb ' is a bible for the environmental movement and represented the kickoff of the movement . His book made population control cool . It fueled an anti-population growth crusade that led to human rights abuses around the world. In Egypt, Tunisia, Pakistan, South Korea and Taiwan, health workers’ salaries were, in a system that invited abuse, dictated by the number of IUDs they inserted into women. In the Philippines, birth-control pills were literally pitched out of helicopters hovering over remote villages. Millions of people were sterilized, often coercively, sometimes illegally, frequently in unsafe conditions, in Mexico, Bolivia, Peru, Indonesia and Bangladesh.

In the 1970s and ’80s, India, embraced policies that required sterilization for men and women to obtain water, electricity, ration cards, medical care and pay raises. More than eight million men and women were sterilized in 1975 alone.

China's one child policy led to 100 million forced abortions.

Ehrlich being the compassionate humanist argued that the US should pressure other governments to launch vasectomy campaigns. He claims he never supported coercive means .

He predicted that within 15 years we will have gone past the point of no return. That would've been 1984. At the time of publication 1 in 4 humans were living in a state of starvation . Today the proportion of hungry is about 1in 10. Meanwhile, the world’s population has more than doubled. People are surviving because they learned how to do things differently. They developed and adopted new agricultural techniques; improved seeds, fertilizers, drip irrigation. More food is grown on less land .In many cases agricultural land in the US and the world has returned to the wild .

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Rewilding as it is called has returned large areas of previously used lands back to nature. Spainalone has tripled its forest area since 1900 , from 8% to 25% of its territory.

You would think that would please envirowackos . Ehrlich is alive and still preaching his doom and gloom .

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He predicted that within 15 years we will have gone past the point of no return. That would've been 1984. At the time of publication 1 in 4 humans were living in a state of starvation . Today the proportion of hungry is about 1in 10.

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You would think that the supposedly compassionate, people-loving liberal dems would applaud such a development.

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This has nothing to do with abortions or sterilization. Healthy babies will be born.

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You really want me to think about a statement like that, especially coming on the heels of, "Humans, stop reproducing?" Might be better if someone else would think about it before posting.

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You really want me to think about a statement like that, especially coming on the heels of, "Humans, stop reproducing?" Might be better if someone else would think about it before posting.

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You found A and C but you're still missing B.

I'm afraid I am all too aware of what "B" is.

I bet not.

Yep. It's means you've dug yet another hole from which you cannot extricate yourself, so you resort to the mysterious answers. It's very similar to that legal analysis you promised well over a week ago which, to be sure, we all knew was never going to happen. History repeats itself yet again.

Nope. You aren't reading comprehensively. Tsk, tsk! And you're a former educator too. I weep.

Thank you for the perfect verification.

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It's means you've dug yet another hole from which you cannot extricate yourself, so you resort to the mysterious answers. It's very similar to that legal analysis you promised well over a week ago which, to be sure, we all knew was never going to happen. History repeats itself yet again.

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You have no answers, so it's just more deflection, one of your two favorite evasions. I know you all too well. You are as predictable as the sun rising in the east. You have no answers, so it just HAS to be the other guy's fault.

Note to other readers. You will NEVER see the promised legal solution we were told to expect over a week ago.