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  • Jan 26, 2022, 02:56 PM
    tomder55
    SCOTUS opening
    Justice Stephen Breyer is stepping down. Will Clueless appoint Kam the Sham to the position? It's perfect. He gets rid of an embarrassment. He selects her replacement (Evita). Then he announces he will not run in 2024.

    As for Kam the Sham it is the perfect no show job for her. SCOTUS doesn't answer about their position until they announce their decision. She can go forever never actually authoring an opinion by just concurring or joining the opposing statement. And they are never taken into account because the appointment is lifetime.
  • Jan 26, 2022, 03:00 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Justice Stephen Breyer is stepping down. Will Clueless appoint Kam the Sham to the position? It's perfect. He gets rid of an embarrassment. He selects her replacement (Evita). Then he announces he will not run in 2024.

    Not a chance. He's already got 5 black female judges lined up to take Breyer's place. He made that promise a year ago. Harris would have been a bad choice - other than a way to remove her from the 2024 ticket. She will not be elected if she runs.

    edit: Evita won't be a candidate, either. HILLARY, I MEANT HILLARY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Jan 26, 2022, 03:04 PM
    jlisenbe
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    Not a chance. He's already got 5 black female judges lined up to take Breyer's place. He made that promise a year ago.
    What a reassuring justification for appointing a person to SCOTUS. "You're a black female, so you're in!"
  • Jan 26, 2022, 03:14 PM
    tomder55
    Clueless likes to check off boxes
    Kam checks off these boxes
    1.1st female Black Associate Justice
    2. 1st Asian American Associate Justice
    3.1st Black/Asian Associate Justice
    4.1st Black/Asian Female Associate Justice

    However my bet is on Justice Michelle Childs because she is the one Jim Clyburn wants in ,and he owes Clyburn bigley
  • Jan 26, 2022, 03:17 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    However my bet is on Justice Michelle Childs because she is the one Jim Clyburn wants in

    Childs would be an excellent choice in her own right.
  • Jan 26, 2022, 03:29 PM
    tomder55
    I have not had a chance to study her rulings and written thoughts in detail . So I will reserve opinion . On a positive note ;she is from my adopted new state . The only case I am vaguely familiar with is a case where some nuke workers did not want the mandatory vax . She ruled that if they did not want a vax, they did not have to work there . Vax mandates are going down all over the country .
  • Jan 26, 2022, 06:50 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I have not had a chance to study her rulings and written thoughts in detail . So I will reserve opinion . On a positive note ;she is from my adopted new state . The only case I am vaguely familiar with is a case where some nuke workers did not want the mandatory vax . She ruled that if they did not want a vax, they did not have to work there . Vax mandates are going down all over the country .

    I still don't understand the anti-vax stuff. Religious exceptions and medical reasons, ok. Otherwise ....... I have some really good cartoons on the subject but I can't figure out how to post them here. I get to the final click - "Submit..." and it says "too many characters". I used to post images here but for some reason, can't any more.

    Anyway, you wouldn't like them, tom.
  • Jan 26, 2022, 07:03 PM
    Wondergirl
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbTvaJPX...jpg&name=small
  • Jan 26, 2022, 08:06 PM
    tomder55
    you know what the last booster is for ? the Pokemon variant
  • Jan 26, 2022, 08:09 PM
    Wondergirl
    Noooooo, Pikachu!!!!
  • Jan 26, 2022, 08:15 PM
    Athos
    Great picture, WG.

    I had to look up Pikachu.
  • Jan 26, 2022, 08:43 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    I still don't understand the anti-vax stuff
    Not anti-vax .It is anti-vax mandate

    Does the vax stop transmission ? No . So then it not a public health issue . It is a personal choice issue and proponents of big government mandates have no compelling case for overriding individual choice .
    The most compelling argument for them is that they prevent hospitalization. Fine . But if you are going to force health decision by government fiat where does it end ?

    Over 30 million Americans have been diagnosed with heart disease .647,000 people die of heart disease in the US every year. How do you prevent that ? By forcing everyone to maintain a certain weight ;to regularily exercise ? We don't and no one would accept that abuse of government power .
  • Jan 26, 2022, 08:52 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Over 30 million Americans have been diagnosed with heart disease .647,000 people die of heart disease in the US every year. How do you prevent that ? By forcing everyone to maintain a certain weight ;to regularily exercise ? We don't and no one would accept that abuse of government power

    Is heart disease transmissible? Is it a public health issue?
  • Jan 26, 2022, 08:56 PM
    tomder55
    Evidently the Dems forced this decision down Breyer's throat . He has been under pressure to resign while the Dems still have the Senate . He came to the decision to do it but the news was announced much sooner than he planned to do so.
    This is how the left appreciates his solid liberal voting record in SCOTUS . They could not wait to boot him out .

    This is what he was forced to see every day as he entered the court
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyiafokW...jpg&name=small


    Shame on them !!
  • Jan 26, 2022, 09:14 PM
    Athos
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Not anti-vax .It is anti-vax mandate

    It is both.

    Quote:

    Does the vax stop transmission ? No
    Are you serious? The vaccine prevents getting the disease. THAT prevents transmission when you don't have the disease. Do some vaccinated people get and transmit? Yes, but that number is infinitesimal. The reward overwhelmingly outweighs the risk,.

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    So then it not a public health issue
    Of course, it's a public health issue.

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    It is a personal choice issue and proponents of big government mandates have no compelling case for overriding individual choice .
    "Big" governments have NOT mandated the vaccine. The federal government has mandated the vaccine for ITS EMPLOYEES, which they have a perfect right to do just like any employer.

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    The most compelling argument for them is that they prevent hospitalization.
    No, the most compelling argument is that they prevent the disease. That leads naturally to prevention of hospitalization and death.

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    But if you are going to force health decision by government fiat where does it end?
    There is no government fiat forcing health decisions by fiat.

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    Over 30 million Americans have been diagnosed with heart disease .647,000 people die of heart disease in the US every year. How do you prevent that ? By forcing everyone to maintain a certain weight ;to regularily exercise ? We don't and no one would accept that abuse of government power .
    Good grief. No one has suggested the government force people to maintain a certain weight or to regularly exercise. You are bringing up non-existent situations.
  • Jan 26, 2022, 09:20 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Evidently the Dems forced this decision down Breyer's throat .

    Evidently? Provide the evidence.

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    This is what he was forced to see every day as he entered the court
    (Picture)

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    Shame on them !!
    Shame on you for such a weak post.
  • Jan 27, 2022, 04:27 AM
    tomder55
    What ? Are you really denying that the left has been subjecting him to a pressure campaign to retire ?

    Justice Breyer Says He Has No Plans to Leave Supreme Court - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    Justice Breyer Says He Will Retire When He Thinks The Time Is Right : NPR

    Liberals Blast Breyer’s ‘Ego’ as He Balks at Retirement Pressure (bloomberglaw.com)

    Justice Stephen Breyer remaining on the Supreme Court is a gamble (msnbc.com)


    Justice Stephen Breyer should retire from the Supreme Court (msnbc.com)


    In the summer he publicly said he has no plans to retire . What changed ? The compliant press in their euphoria that Clueless gets to pick an ultra-progressive that checks off the right boxes have generally failed to mention the extreme pressure he has been under to step aside .


    In the summer he hired 4 clerks . Is that the move of someone planning to step aside ? Court watchers predicted after the hiring that he would stay on.

    Justice Stephen Breyer Hires Law Clerks for SCOTUS Fall Term (businessinsider.com)

    Breyer Hires Four Law Clerks for Next Term, High Court Confirms (bloombergquint.com)
  • Jan 27, 2022, 04:39 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Is heart disease transmissible? Is it a public health issue?


    I already noted that the vax does not prevent transmission .

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    Are you serious? The vaccine prevents getting the disease.......No, the most compelling argument is that they prevent the disease.
    Wrong again

    CDC Director says vaccines are not preventing transmission (audacy.com)

    Most of the World’s Vaccines Likely Won’t Prevent Infection From Omicron - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

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    "Big" governments have NOT mandated the vaccine. The federal government has mandated the vaccine for ITS EMPLOYEES, which they have a perfect right to do just like any employer.
    The mandate from OSHA was knocked down by SCOTUS . Now OSHA is not going to enforce the mandate for Federal workers .

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    Good grief. No one has suggested the government force people to maintain a certain weight or to regularly exercise. You are bringing up non-existent situations.
    Not yet . Right now they are in the public education and strict labelling phase . Many politicians are self-appointed nutrition czars .They see Americans as incapable of making decisions about eating. Therefore, they feel that government at all levels must try to control their diets by directing people to eat a certain way or expressly prohibiting or banning the consumption of certain foods. You know that well . Nanny Bloomy was a notorious food Nazi.
  • Jan 27, 2022, 06:31 AM
    tomder55
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    What a reassuring justification for appointing a person to SCOTUS. "You're a black female, so you're in!"


    “Preferring members of any one group for no reason other than race or ethnic origin is discrimination for its own sake” “This the Constitution forbids.” [
    Justice Lewis Powell : Regents of the University of California v. Bakke (1978).]


    The really sad thing is that a case can be made for every candidate I have seen on the alleged short list without ever mentioning race. But now whoever is picked will always have the 'diversity pick' label.
  • Jan 27, 2022, 06:47 AM
    tomder55
    Then there is this from Reuters Tuesday's news

    The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday agreed to hear a bid to bar Harvard University and the University of North Carolina from considering race in undergraduate admissions in a case that imperils affirmative action policies widely used to increase the number of Black and Hispanic students on American campuses.

    I'll give Clueless credit . He makes sure the issues of the day are front and center.
  • Jan 27, 2022, 07:49 AM
    tomder55
    I am surprised I did not see Janice Rogers Brown on Clueless' short list . She is a well qualified Black Female jurist who was on the DC Circus Court of Appeals .
  • Jan 27, 2022, 11:02 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    What ? Are you really denying that the left has been subjecting him to a pressure campaign to retire ?

    Breyer announced his retirement today. He had no need to succumb to any pressure to retire. He is perfectly aware of the need to be replaced with a like-minded justice.
  • Jan 27, 2022, 11:21 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post

    The context is that masks should be worn even by vaccinated people. Same as always.

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    The mandate from OSHA was knocked down by SCOTUS . Now OSHA is not going to enforce the mandate for Federal workers
    OSHA will be back with the more routine method of accomplishing the safety it is charged with - not under emergency orders.

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    Many politicians are self-appointed nutrition czars .They see Americans as incapable of making decisions about eating. Therefore, they feel that government at all levels must try to control their diets by directing people to eat a certain way or expressly prohibiting or banning the consumption of certain foods.
    Complete nonsense. Do you honestly believe the government will follow us around checking on our diet and our weight? Wanna buy a bridge n Brooklyn?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    “Preferring members of any one group for no reason other than race or ethnic origin is discrimination for its own sake” “This the Constitution forbids.” [ Justice Lewis Powell : Regents of the University of California v. Bakke (1978).]

    The black female SC candidates do NOT fit into this category. Their candidacy is marked by superb academic and judicial credentials - not "...no reason other than race...."

  • Jan 27, 2022, 01:07 PM
    tomder55
    The replacement;"marked by superb academic and judicial credentials",will be chosen only after the field is radically winnowed by open race and sex discrimination, which has gone from being illegal to being celebrated and practiced by a president of the United States.
  • Jan 27, 2022, 01:16 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The replacement;"marked by superb academic and judicial credentials",will be chosen only after the field is radically winnowed by open race and sex discrimination

    You're saying white will always win out, be the best? No poc can possibly top them?
  • Jan 27, 2022, 01:44 PM
    tomder55
    not saying that at all. I'm saying the best qualified candidate should be selected . Clueless made race and gender his first qualifier . The Bakke decision rejected his type of criteria.The three leading candidates ; Justice Leondra Krueger ,Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson and Judge Michelle Childs are all worthy candidates who could have been considered for any vacancy without declaring that they were qualified by virtue of filling a quota
  • Jan 27, 2022, 01:45 PM
    Wondergirl
    Well, we women ARE beyond reproach. I'm thinking she should also be part of the LBGTQ community.
  • Jan 27, 2022, 01:50 PM
    tomder55
    There you go intersectional conflicts when the oppressed become the oppressors
  • Jan 27, 2022, 02:05 PM
    tomder55
    Grutter v. Bollinger :in 2003 SCOTUS decided that if multiple candidates were equally qualified then other qualifiers like race and gender could be a determining factor.

    Same year in Gratz v. Bollinger SCOTUS decided that if race or other factors that were discriminatory under Bakke were the first qualifiers then it was unconstitutional .
    Breyer voted in the majority in both decisions .

    B
    y announcing that race and gender was his first qualifiers ,Clueless is violating the law.
    The sad part is that this fall SCOTUS will rule on 2 cases where Harvard and U of Mass use that very criteria in admissions . Breyer said he will wait until after this session of SCOTUS is concluded sparing his successor the conflict of interest .
  • Jan 27, 2022, 02:57 PM
    tomder55
    another thing I like about Childs is that she is not a product of the Ivy towers .
  • Jan 27, 2022, 03:21 PM
    Wondergirl
    Plus, Childs is very pretty with sparkly eyes and a sweet smile.

    bachelor’s degree in management from the University of South Florida, 1988

    master’s degree in personnel and employment relations from the University of South Carolina School of Business, 1991.

    Juris Doctor from the University of South Carolina School of Law, also 1991

    Master of Laws in judicial studies from the Duke University School of Law, 2016
  • Jan 27, 2022, 03:47 PM
    tomder55
    I will ignore the superficial qualifiers.

    Schmucky said Thursday that the Senate will move quickly on the nominee to replace Breyer – and that it will treat that person fairly.(as opposed to the Kavanaugh treatment )
    "The Senate will have a fair process that moves quickly so we can confirm President Biden’s nominee to fill Justice Breyer’s seat as soon as possible,"
  • Jan 27, 2022, 03:53 PM
    Wondergirl
    Has Breyer officially given notice?

    Ah, I guess so --

    Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer formally submitted his resignation letter to President Biden on Thursday, a day after multiple media outlets reported his decision to retire from the nation's high court.
    In the letter, the 83-year-old Breyer said he will step down at the end of the court's current term, assuming his successor has been nominated and confirmed. The next term begins on Oct. 3.
    https://news.yahoo.com/read-supreme-...174830680.html
  • Jan 27, 2022, 04:11 PM
    Athos
    According to Tom, all of Biden's picks are unconstitutional. It should therefore be a simple matter to sue to prevent Biden picking who he picked. Stand by.
  • Jan 28, 2022, 04:50 AM
    tomder55
    Racial and gender qualification for the Court is unconstitutional . Geeze ,Clueless talks about going back to Jim Crow days . Well there you have it .Racial and gender preference are against the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment .

    It is Clueless who is being unfair to his nominee and his pick will now have an asterisk attached to the selection. I may disagree with all their policies and views on interpretation of the constitution and the role of the court. But all of them look qualified to sit on the court regardless of their race or gender . To place that qualifier on the selection is unfair to them and unconstitutional .
  • Jan 28, 2022, 07:10 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Racial and gender qualification for the Court is unconstitutional .

    I repeat: It should therefore be a simple matter to sue to prevent Biden picking who he picked. Stand by.
  • Jan 28, 2022, 09:44 AM
    tomder55
    <sarc> Yeah suing Clueless to prevent the "first Black Female " from being seated on the court is a great plan .</sarc>
  • Jan 28, 2022, 10:12 AM
    Wondergirl
    How did a woman get on the SC for the first time?
  • Jan 28, 2022, 11:51 AM
    tomder55
    O'Connor was on a diverse short list of candidates that included Robert Bork, Dallin H. Oaks, Malcolm R. Wilkey, Philip B. Kurland, and Edwin Meese III .Reagan pledged to nominate a woman with one of his selections . He never promised that it would be his 1st pick or that he would only consider a woman.
  • Jan 28, 2022, 12:50 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He never promised that it would be his 1st pick or that he would only consider a woman.

    Here is what Reagan said:

    I am announcing today that one of the first Supreme Court vacancies in my administration will be filled by the most qualified woman I can possibly find. … It is time for a woman to sit among the highest jurists.”

    Parse that and say Reagan didn't do the same thing Biden is doing.

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