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  • Sep 7, 2021, 03:52 PM
    tomder55
    So which one gave birth ?
    This is weird and bizarre . The idea that he is an important cabinet member of Quid's regime makes it doubly disturbing .


    Pete Buttigieg and his husband Chasten announce the birth of their twins - CNNPolitics

    https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/i...ns-mb-1613.jpg
  • Sep 7, 2021, 04:08 PM
    Wondergirl
    They also have given birth to two dogs, Truman and Buddy!

    (Tom, you musta missed reading this sentence in your link: "The couple, who have been married since 2018, had been trying to adopt for a year, The Washington Post reported in July."



  • Sep 7, 2021, 04:39 PM
    tomder55
    I didn't miss it at all. What is weird is them posing in a birthing bed as if one of them actually gave birth
  • Sep 7, 2021, 06:01 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I didn't miss it at all. What is weird is them posing in a birthing bed as if one of them actually gave birth

    That's the FUN of adopting two babies! It helps set the scene and solidifies the parental relationship.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 03:03 AM
    tomder55
    It is sick ! It shows how much the Sec Transportation has lost touch with reality . It is childish play acting to pretend one of them actually birthed a baby . White cisgender male Pete is still trying to prove he is queer enough ,
  • Sep 8, 2021, 05:23 AM
    jlisenbe
    It is doubly sad for those two babies. To be condemned to be raised in such a perverse arrangement is a sad reflection on how little regard our culture has for the genuine welfare of children.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 09:17 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It is doubly sad for those two babies. To be condemned to be raised in such a perverse arrangement is a sad reflection on how little regard our culture has for the genuine welfare of children.

    Nothing sad about it. I know of far too many male-female marriages that are broken or have totally failed, leaving their children distraught and angry. My kind and generous gay legally married SIL and her very sweet wife years ago adopted a newborn baby boy who is now a wonderful (straight) young adult.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 09:34 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    It is sick ! It shows how much the Sec Transportation has lost touch with reality . It is childish play acting to pretend one of them actually birthed a baby . White cisgender male Pete is still trying to prove he is queer enough ,

    Quote:

    Originally posted by Jlisenbe
    It is doubly sad for those two babies. To be condemned to be raised in such a perverse arrangement is a sad reflection on how little regard our culture has for the genuine welfare of children.

    What is sick are these two comments. Incredible homophobia. Your comments are disgusting.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 09:42 AM
    jlisenbe
    What a thoughtful, well reasoned reply.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 09:53 AM
    Wondergirl
    I have dear relatives and many wonderful friends who are in the LGBTQ+ community. God has been so good to me, has blessed me abundantly!
  • Sep 8, 2021, 09:58 AM
    jlisenbe
    You really believe God is the author of that?
  • Sep 8, 2021, 10:06 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You really believe God is the author of that?

    Absolutely! And with His help I do my best to help them meet their needs and achieve their goals.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 10:23 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    What a thoughtful, well reasoned reply.

    You get back what you offered. "sad", "perverse", "condemned". I repeat, disgusting and sick.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 10:31 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    It is sick ! It shows how much the Sec Transportation has lost touch with reality . It is childish play acting to pretend one of them actually birthed a baby . White cisgender male Pete is still trying to prove he is queer enough ,

    If a legally married man and woman took the same pose, holding newly adopted babies, would you make the same complaint, "It is childish play acting [sic] to pretend one of them actually birthed a baby"?
  • Sep 8, 2021, 10:41 AM
    tomder55
    you just have to know which definition of queer I was using .
  • Sep 8, 2021, 10:45 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you just have to know which definition of queer I was using .

    And that was....
  • Sep 8, 2021, 10:55 AM
    tomder55
    either one applies here
    Queer could also mean strange. And it is very strange for 2 adult males to pose for a picture in a birthing bed. But you do know that the LGBTQXYZ community attacked Pete for not being gay enough during the campaign ? Homophobia implies a fear . That would make that an inaccurate assessment .
  • Sep 8, 2021, 11:05 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Absolutely! And with His help I do my best to help them meet their needs and achieve their goals.
    That's your opinion and you are welcome to it, but there is no indication of that in the Bible.

    Quote:

    You get back what you offered. "sad", "perverse", "condemned". I repeat, disgusting and sick.
    I was referring to beliefs and ideas. You were referring to people. Big difference.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 11:54 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That's your opinion and you are welcome to it, but there is no indication of that in the Bible.

    Galatians 6:2 and Luke 10:27
  • Sep 8, 2021, 12:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    Well, here they are. Gal. 6:2. "Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ."

    Luke 10:27. He answered, “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’ and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”

    You said, "I have dear relatives and many wonderful friends who are in the LGBTQ+ community. God has been so good to me, has blessed me abundantly!"

    I replied, "You really believe God is the author of that?"

    So in what way do your two scriptures justify homosexual behavior? Perhaps my question was unclear?
  • Sep 8, 2021, 12:46 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So in what way do your two scriptures justify homosexual behavior? Perhaps my question was unclear?

    Um, the LGBTQ+ community members are neighbors God commands me to love. And I carry their burdens and they, in turn, carry mine.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 12:53 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Um, the LGBTQ+ community members are neighbors God commands me to love. And I carry their burdens and they, in turn, carry mine.
    Good for you. I understood you to be justifying their behavior. My bad.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 12:57 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Good for you. I understood you to be justifying their behavior. My bad.

    Matthew 7:1-2
  • Sep 8, 2021, 01:12 PM
    tomder55
    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1oNoHsmtV...-head-here.jpg
  • Sep 8, 2021, 01:17 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Matthew 7:1-2
    Then why are you judging?
  • Sep 8, 2021, 01:21 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:
    Don't hurt yourself. I'll give you free counseling via phone, if necessary.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Then why are you judging?

    I'm not. I accept everyone. You are acting as judge and jury.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 01:29 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I'm not. I accept everyone. You are acting as judge and jury.
    When you claim I am acting as judge and jury, you are doing what you claim not to do. You are not accepting me, and you are judging me. So why are you exempt?

    And another instance of you judging. Shame on you!

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    If a legally married man and woman took the same pose, holding newly adopted babies, would you make the same complaint, "It is childish play acting [sic] to pretend one of them actually birthed a baby"?
    And then there was this. Why didn't you correct Athos? Aren't you an equal opportunity corrector?

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    What is sick are these two comments. Incredible homophobia. Your comments are disgusting.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 03:01 PM
    tomder55
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    Don't hurt yourself. I'll give you free counseling via phone, if necessary.

    I' m done
  • Sep 8, 2021, 03:02 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    And then there was this. Why didn't you correct Athos?

    The truth never needs correction.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 03:10 PM
    jlisenbe
    Very true. That's why I wondered why she didn't correct you.

    Quote:

    I' m done
    I certainly hope not.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 03:10 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

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    I' m done

    I still love you, tomder!
  • Sep 8, 2021, 03:42 PM
    tomder55
    maybe we will meet again on another site . It won't be a religious discussion forum.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 03:47 PM
    jlisenbe
    Sorry about that, Tom. I moved the last one. It just seems to keep popping up. If you'll hang around, I will promise to move any future incursions into your threads.
  • Sep 8, 2021, 03:50 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

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    maybe we will meet again on another site . It won't be a religious discussion forum.

    We can talk about the fun and excitement when living in the Carolinas!

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