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  • May 24, 2021, 11:07 AM
    Athos
    The Incredible Marjorie Taylor Greene
    This argument to have all candidates for public office pass a competency test, Republican Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene, has today graced us with the following piece of absolute trash.

    The government making people wear masks is like the Nazis who made the Jews wear signs and put them on railroads to send them to gas chambers and kill them.

    Yeah, I paraphrased and shortened it slightly, but that's the meat of it.
  • May 24, 2021, 02:32 PM
    paraclete
    Yes incrediable indeed
  • May 24, 2021, 05:22 PM
    tomder55
    Why won't Madam Mim rescind the mask mandate ? Is it her way of saying the vaccines don't work ?
  • May 24, 2021, 05:36 PM
    paraclete
    Herd Immunity?
  • May 24, 2021, 05:48 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Why won't Madam Mim rescind the mask mandate ? Is it her way of saying the vaccines don't work ?

    Variants are out and about. This pandemic is far from being over. It's still to be determined which vaccines do the best job of giving total protection.
  • May 24, 2021, 06:19 PM
    tomder55
    No ;the power hungry Dems are using the pandemic as an excuse to flex their muscles . In fact they hope the pandemic is with us forever .

    The Dems have been comparing the Repubs to Nazi's for years . Now they have selective outrage .
  • May 24, 2021, 06:36 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    No ;the power hungry Dems are using the pandemic as an excuse to flex their muscles . In fact they hope the pandemic is with us forever .

    The Dems have been comparing the Repubs to Nazi's for years . Now they have selective outrage .

    Naw. You're thinking of the trumpsters and trumpettes. If the Republicans would behave, no more problem! We could even picnic together this summer. I'll bring the prime rib steaks to grill.
  • May 24, 2021, 07:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Marjorie Taylor Greene
    She's the one repub semi-crazy to balance out AOC, Tlaib, Omar, Pressley, et al. Funny you didn't mention them. Wonder why not???
  • May 24, 2021, 07:36 PM
    paraclete
    lot of crazy about these days, it's popular so you get noticed
  • May 25, 2021, 05:21 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    lot of crazy about these days, it's popular so you get noticed

    The crazies are getting into the higher echelons of the Republican Party.

    Minority Leader McCarthy has become a type apparently unaware that his insanity is recorded on camera almost on a daily basis.

    Then there's the nutcase Republican Rep Clyde who claimed (also on camera for all the world to see) that the Jan 6 insurrection was nothing more than the usual tourist activity visiting and taking pictures. Even when the video showed the moron helping to stem the onslaught by pushing furniture against an entrance door for protection against those "tourists taking pictures".

    Republican Senator Hawley making the most outrageous lies about the election and, of course, Giulani, long known to be on the brink of madness along with his fellow attorneys Sidney Powell who admitted before a judge she was "exaggerating" when screaming about fraud and, lest we forget, the truly insane Lin Wood who is caught on camera raging about the "illuminati" - a notorious cabal behind the Democrats and Biden.

    When they make the movie about this bizarre Trumpian era in American history, it would be hard to believe such goings-on really occurred, but the film is always there for all to see that it is the truth, strange as it seems.
  • May 25, 2021, 10:26 AM
    jlisenbe
    There are extremists on both sides of the aisle. We have a Pres who can’t speak without a teleprompter or answer impromptu questions and a VP in charge of the catastrophe at the southern border who won’t go there and won’t talk about.
  • May 25, 2021, 10:35 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    There are extremists on both sides of the aisle. We have a Pres who can’t speak without a teleprompter or answer impromptu questions and a VP in charge of the catastrophe at the southern border who won’t go there and won’t talk about.

    Oh, you're back!

    Biden and Harris are remotely far from my post re Republicans. They are normal people. Like Trump making fun of a paraplegic, you find fault in Biden's speaking with a teleprompter. Trump could barely speak with one. Without one, he was all over the lot, unable to hold a thought more than a moment without sliding into another. Biden has often spoke extemporaneously with great clarity. You're just not seeing.

    You need to understand the meaning of false equivalence. Then you won't post such nonsense as you did here. Google it.
  • May 25, 2021, 10:56 AM
    tomder55
    “At a time when the Socialist Democrats and the Jihad Squad are supporting terrorist Hamas,....
    Will Dems Rebuke the Squad for Parroting Hamas Talking Points? | Opinion (newsweek.com)
    ....and their supporters are attacking Jewish people on the streets of America,..........
    Officials Say Hate Crimes Against Jews Are Growing In The Aftermath Of Gaza Violence : NPR
    ..........it's never been more important than now to stand up against forced vaccinations and mask mandates that the Left is using to discriminate against Americans who refuse to comply”.

    “Their attempts to shame, ostracize, and brand Americans who choose not to get vaccinated or wear a mask are reminiscent of the great tyrants of history who did the same to those who would not comply.”


    "The Democrats are the party of division, hate, critical race theory (pure racism), discrimination, totalitarianism, socialism, globalism, gender destruction, BDS, defunding our police, and ANTIFA / BLM terrorists."

    MTG
  • May 25, 2021, 11:05 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    .........it's never been more important than now to stand up against forced vaccinations and mask mandates that the Left is using to discriminate against Americans who refuse to comply”

    Huh?

    Quote:

    “Their attempts to shame, ostracize, and brand Americans who choose not to get vaccinated or wear a mask are reminiscent of the great tyrants of history who did the same to those who would not comply.” MTG
    Tom, Tom, Tom ......... you're losing it. Even your Repub heroes in Congress are denouncing Greene as a nutcase. Please don't get trapped into the web she's weaving. She's a crazy lady.

    Wearing masks is not the same as the Nazis forcing people into gas chambers in extermination camps. Good grief!! Like I told your partner in crime, look up false equivalence. Stop posting nonsense. It ain't helping your cause.
  • May 25, 2021, 11:20 AM
    talaniman
    MTJ and her comrade Matt 'pedo' Gaetz are the darlings of the right and talking crazy raises a lot of money.
  • May 25, 2021, 11:33 AM
    tomder55
    My "Repub heroes "????????? Who would that be ? Not McCarthy . All he does is bow to pressure .

    Quote:

    Wearing masks is not the same as the Nazis forcing people into gas chambers in extermination camps.
    The presumption is that Nazi abuse began with extermination camps . They did not . They began by instituting legal measure to strip Jews of their rights while simultaneously waging a campaign to socially ostracize them .
    Germans were told that Jews were 'the other' .The Nuremberg laws defined who was a Jew and who was not a Jew.

    Jews were then separated from the rest of society . Laws against hiring ,attending schools ,other public places were initiated . (do you have your vax papers ? What about a vax passport ? )

    I don't know how far the country will take this . We already have experienced lock downs with little resistance . Can ghettoization (forced quarantine ) of non-vaccinated people happen ?
  • May 25, 2021, 11:49 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I don't know how far the country will take this . We already have experienced lock downs with little resistance . Can ghettoization (forced quarantine ) of non-vaccinated people happen ?

    If you were in charge, what would you say and do?
  • May 25, 2021, 12:03 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Oh, you're back!
    Been here everyday.

    Quote:

    Biden and Harris are remotely far from my post re Republicans. They are normal people.
    I'm sure they are to you. They are perfectly normal liberal dems. Can't talk without prepared notes. Can't answer impromptu questions. Sleeps with the political boss to get a promotion. In charge of a border you haven't seen. Afraid of press conferences. Yep. Pretty normal.
  • May 25, 2021, 12:07 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yep. Pretty normal.

    Yeah, like Trump who excitedly traveled to Alamo, Texas, and thought he was at the Alamo....
  • May 25, 2021, 12:08 PM
    talaniman
    Why do right wingers defend their certified loons by attacking? This is about specific nut cases based on public behavior. If you don't think MJG isn't off her rocker just be brave enough to say so.

    Or be a coward...
  • May 25, 2021, 12:09 PM
    jlisenbe
    I don't mind your critical remarks about Trump, though I would say he built a major business empire which Biden/Harris never did. Still, he is worthy of criticism. It is your abysmal support and defense of Biden/Harris that is incredible.
  • May 25, 2021, 12:13 PM
    tomder55
    I agree with the Governors who have lifted mask mandates . Madam Mim is just being power hungry . She is also a hypocrite as she has been seen numerous times in gatherings without a mask on.

    It's the same thing she pulled making legislators go through metal detectors ;and pay a fine if not . Even IF there was a REAL threat about visitors in the Capitol ,there was NEVER a threat that would justify requiring an elected Rep to pass through special security measures .

    Tal I agree . MJG isn't off her rocker .
  • May 25, 2021, 12:14 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I agree with the Governors who have lifted mask mandates .

    Then please list the rules and release from rules you would set as public policy.
  • May 25, 2021, 12:16 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I agree with the Governors who have lifted mask mandates . Madam Mim is just being power hungry . She is also a hypocrite as she has been seen numerous times in gatherings without a mask on.

    It's the same thing she pulled making legislators go through metal detectors ;and pay a fine if not . Even IF there was a REAL threat about visitors in the Capitol ,there was NEVER a threat that would justify requiring an elected Rep to pass through special security measures .

    I don't know about that since certain wingers have tried to carry a gun into the chambers before and a lot of old people in the halls of congress. I think it may be okay for Governors to lift mask mandates, but banning localities that discretion if warranted is simply irresponsible.
  • May 25, 2021, 12:19 PM
    tomder55
    WG ;the one and only rule that applies is that there will no longer be a governmental requirement to wear masks in public .

    Tal ;if you think there is a risk from a lawmaker that justifies ridiculous measures then either your paranoia is showing ,or perhaps you think we are in the late 1850s on the verge of a civil war .

    I can understand since the Dems are ginning up all types of exaggerations about what happened Jan 6 like Schmucky comparing it to the Pearl Harbor attack and trying to set up a 9-11 type commission ...... with people being arrested and held in solitary confinement without any due process.
    Jan. 6 defendants win unlikely Dem champions as they face harsh detainment - POLITICO
  • May 25, 2021, 12:55 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Germans were told that Jews were 'the other' .The Nuremberg laws defined who was a Jew and who was not a Jew. Jews were then separated from the rest of society . Laws against hiring ,attending schools ,other public places were initiated . (do you have your vax papers ? What about a vax passport ? )

    I don't know how far the country will take this

    Tom, it's not like you to join the nutcase category - I'm trying my best to keep you out it, but you're not helping.

    Quote:

    Can ghettoization (forced quarantine ) of non-vaccinated people happen ?
    Quarantine is not "ghettoization". It does not lead to cattle cars full of people om their way to be gassed to death.
  • May 25, 2021, 01:00 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Can't talk without prepared notes. Can't answer impromptu questions.

    Of course they can, and have. It is Trump that could never talk coherently without a script. Speaking impromptu, he was incoherent, and often resorted to being a raging lunatic.

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    Sleeps with the political boss to get a promotion.
    Wow - you are really hitting rock bottom. Maybe you should stick to telling all of us about your wonderful bible. I'm sure you can find filthy stories there to regale us with.
  • May 25, 2021, 01:24 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    WG ;the one and only rule that applies is that there will no longer be a governmental requirement to wear masks in public .

    Who or what will require mask wearing?
  • May 25, 2021, 01:41 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Of course they can, and have.
    It is well known that Biden wants the questions in advance for press conferences.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...stions-advance

    Quote:


    Sleeps with the political boss to get a promotion.


    Wow - you are really hitting rock bottom. Maybe you should stick to telling all of us about your wonderful bible. I'm sure you can find filthy stories there to regale us with.
    She dated Willie Brown extensively when he was thirty or forty years older than her. I no doubt went too far is saying they slept together, but they dated extensively and he promoted her. Why would a sixty year old man date a 30 year old woman? You do the math. But yes, it cannot be stated for certain. You know, sort of like the many accusations you make against Trump. Lot's of smoke but a lack of certain fire.

    Yes, the Bible is wonderful.
  • May 25, 2021, 01:47 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It is well known that Biden wants the questions in advance for press conferences.

    And Trump should have had them ahead of time so he'd stay on topic and not walk off stage when one didn't suit him.
  • May 25, 2021, 02:00 PM
    jlisenbe
    [FONT=Arial, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#000000]At least you are acknowledging that your hero cannot think fast enough to answer questions on the spot. Real genius. [/COLOR][/FONT]
  • May 25, 2021, 02:17 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    [FONT=Arial, geneva, lucida, lucida grande, arial, helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#000000]At least you are acknowledging that your hero cannot think fast enough to answer questions on the spot. Real genius. [/COLOR][/FONT]

    A true disciple...please fix your brackets.

    Nope, didn't acknowledge that at all. You're reading ghost words.
  • May 25, 2021, 02:59 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    And Trump should have had them ahead of time
    The "And" is your acknowledgment.

    I don't know why those brackets appear. I have tired of fixing them. I'm just going to come to love them.
  • May 25, 2021, 03:28 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    She dated Willie Brown extensively when he was thirty or forty years older than her. I no doubt went too far is saying they slept together, but they dated extensively and he promoted her. Why would a sixty year old man date a 30 year old woman? You do the math. But yes, it cannot be stated for certain. You know, sort of like the many accusations you make against Trump. Lot's of smoke but a lack of certain fire.
    At least you admit your mind is in the gutter and you don't know what you're talking about. Somewhat anyway
  • May 25, 2021, 04:01 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Who or what will require mask wearing?
    still practicing the Socratic method ?

    This is what I think .... my body /my choice. Private entities can set rules as they choose. 'No mask ;no service" . But I would not permit the government to mandate it again.
    The evidence is in :Mask mandates did NOT prevent the end of the year surge . Of the 100 counties with the most confirmed cases during this period, 97 had either a county-level mask mandate, a state-level mandate, or both. Of the 25 counties with the highest new case totals, all 25 had a mask mandate.

    Better than mask mandates would be to protect the elderly in nursing homes and those most vulnerable . Then let the rest of the country go on with their lives .
  • May 25, 2021, 04:05 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Better than mask mandates would be to protect the elderly in nursing homes and those most vulnerable . Then let the rest of the country go on with their lives .
    Absolutely correct.
  • May 26, 2021, 12:10 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    This is what I think .... my body /my choice. Private entities can set rules as they choose. 'No mask ;no service" . But I would not permit the government to mandate it again.

    You two are two peas in a pod. Your private choice is more important than the attempt to stop the spread of a deadly virus. Your knee-jerk reaction to anything the government does is ridiculous. Like your fellow crazy person, Greene, wearing a mask is one step away from gas chambers.

    The elderly should just die if masks are mandated for nursery homes. Who needs them anyway, their being a drain on the all-important economy. Why don't we just kill all the non-productive members of society. The unborn don't make money, so abortion is good. Moloch and Mammon are your true gods.

    Anyone reading these pages has a good insight into the wacky white evangelicals supporting an evil character like Trump. HIM as government, you like! Right?

    Quote:

    The evidence is in :Mask mandates did NOT prevent the end of the year surge . Of the 100 counties with the most confirmed cases during this period, 97 had either a county-level mask mandate, a state-level mandate, or both. Of the 25 counties with the highest new case totals, all 25 had a mask mandate.
    Tomder, you have been wrong in so many claims of yours that I won't even ask you for a link. You wouldn't answer anyway. Three times you couldn't answer for yourself as to what programs are "socialistic".

    Sometimes you write fact-based posts, but too often your posts are not fact-based, just some nonsense from whatever website you get the stuff from - or your own imagination. I can predict your reply (both of you) to this post, so can the others here.

    Stick to the facts Tom and get your creds back. (Calm down, Tom's little helper. We know you're frothing at the bit to jump in here.)
  • May 26, 2021, 04:43 AM
    jlisenbe
    Took about a minute to find a link.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...vid-19-better/

    Quote:

    Stick to the facts
    Like you?
  • May 26, 2021, 04:48 AM
    tomder55
    yawn your ad hominins are boring .Perhaps you missed this
    "Better than mask mandates would be to protect the elderly in nursing homes and those most vulnerable . Then let the rest of the country go on with their lives"
    Mask mandates had no effect in the Autumn surge . 8.8 million new cases mostly in the areas where mask mandates were the most prevalent . Providing links is a waste of time . Most of the garbage you write you do not provide verifying links to either .
  • May 26, 2021, 05:48 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Mask mandates had no effect in the Autumn surge

    Wearing masks is SCIENCE.

    Quote:

    Most of the garbage you write you do not provide verifying links to either .
    My posts are based on logic, common sense, and what is already in effect. When links are needed, I provide them. For example, not being an expert on climate science, I provided two excellent links for you - which I doubt you read since they go against your (false) ideas.

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