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  • Feb 15, 2021, 10:27 AM
    tomder55
    The Black List
    I forgot which OP I was posting the casualties of the cancel culture . So starting a new one .

    Today's victim is Gina Carano who is (or was ) in the Disney Channel's 'The Mandalorian ' . She was a rising start and rumors was that Disney was going to do a spin off series of her Star Wars character.

    That was before she took to Twitter and made this comment :

    https://behindtheblack.com/wp-conten...aronaTweet.png

    Her observation is dead on accurate .
    But a Twitter lynch mob formed and demanded she be cancelled .(#FireGinaCarano )

    Disney bowed to the pressure and fired her .

    "Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future," "Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable."

    Following the announcement, #canceldisneyplus began trending on Twitter

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    Next is Illinois Institute of Technology where a conservative student attempted to start a 'Turning Point USA 'chapter on campus .
    Turning Point promotes conservative principles in college and high schools.121 other students signed collection cards expressing interest in a TPUSA chapter.

    But in a Q &A session student senators questioned the validity of Turning Point as a national grassroots organization. Friends of the student started getting texts asking why he would want to start a 'hate group ' on campus . The student bowed to the pressure and withdrew his request . He informed the student government that classmates began to wonder if he, his peers, and his fraternity brothers were “terrible people” for trying to start the club.
    Derek Rhea, the executive vice president of the Student Government Association commented that the “entire campus had been completely mobilized,” leading to a “huge movement on the opposing side” against the prospect of a TPUSA group at Illinois Tech.

    The student provided screen shots where other students gleefully boasted that they had 'cyber bullied a student org to death.'
  • Feb 15, 2021, 10:39 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I forgot which OP I was posting the casualties of the cancel culture . So starting a new one .

    An OP is an Original Post or Original Poster. I believe you mean you're starting a new thread.
    Quote:

    Today's victim is Gina Carano who is (or was ) in the Disney Channel's 'The Mandalorian ' . Disney bowed to the pressure and fired her .

    Her observation is dead on accurate .
    That specific observation is valid. Her other ones are not.
  • Feb 15, 2021, 02:08 PM
    tomder55
    if everyone who made a Holocaust analogy recently were to be canceled, she would have plenty of company on the unemployment line.
  • Feb 15, 2021, 03:14 PM
    jlisenbe
    You can add Chris Harrison to that last. He was asked about a woman participant in the Bachelor who had her picture taken with a number of other young college women dressed up as southern belles at a party. Evidently, for the dainty, easily offended crowd, that now passes as racism. Harrison simply pointed out that perhaps people should wait for her response to the allegations before crucifying her publicly. His refusal to join the holier than thou lynch mob has resulted in his job now being on the line. He has offered up the obligatory apology in hopes of saving the day.

    In the meantime, more than 70% of black kids are now born out of wedlock. It is an absolute disaster that gets no press and is never discussed. Sad.
  • Feb 15, 2021, 06:10 PM
    paraclete
    don't you think it racist to give that statistic without giving the statistics for other races. I guess not but your racial superiority is showing
  • Feb 15, 2021, 06:17 PM
    talaniman
    Hey Tom does your cancel culture also include the repubs who get censured by state GOP because they voted against or talked against the dufus?
  • Feb 15, 2021, 06:27 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I guess not but your racial superiority is showing
    Well, that's one way to look at it. Another is that, altogether apart from you, I have worked with lower income kids (certainly not all black) who were raised in a single parent home. It is usually a terrible disadvantage. You plainly don't care, and are, it would seem, among those in the the dainty, easily offended crowd. But I don't pay attention to that. Someone needs to make an issue of it. I would hope you would jump on board rather than sit back and throw stones about an issue you seem to know practically nothing about.

    BTW, I raised the issue since the Chris Harrison story is about supposed racism against black people. The two subjects go together. If you want to say that most groups in America have enormous problems with OWB, then I agree completely. Why don't you raise the issue and actually discuss it?
  • Feb 15, 2021, 06:37 PM
    paraclete
    Not interested in discussing racism in america
  • Feb 16, 2021, 05:28 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Hey Tom does your cancel culture also include the repubs who get censured by state GOP because they voted against or talked against the dufus?
    did he lose his job ? Add Burr to the list if you like . His votes was a safe vote because he had already announced he would not run again. A censure is a slap on the wrist . That is why the Dems did not censure Trump ;which was one of their options . They went for the kill shot and that is what I am mostly posting about .


    I'm talking about things like the LGBT organization 'The Human Rights Campaign ' that is pushing the Quid administration to deny accreditation to any school that did not endorse their agenda .
    https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/ar...t_news_id=4518

    “Language regarding accreditation of religious institutions of higher education in the Higher Education Opportunity Act could be interpreted to require accrediting bodies to accredit religious institutions that discriminate or do not meet science-based curricula standards. The Department of Education should issue a regulation clarifying that this provision, which requires accreditation agencies to ‘respect the stated mission’ of religious institutions, does not require the accreditation of religious institutions that do not meet neutral accreditation standards including nondiscrimination policies and scientific curriculum requirements.”


    So if a religious school teaches homosexuality is a sin, based entirely on that school’s religious beliefs, it's accreditation should be cancelled, and its ability to provide students legally recognized degrees eliminated. First Amendment be damned .

    Will Quid go along with that ? Of course he will . This is the President who signed an EO that requires schools to let men who “identify” as women compete in women’s sports.

    Question .... if Quid goes along with this ,when will the first Madrasas be closed ?
  • Feb 16, 2021, 06:27 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Hey Tom does your cancel culture also include the repubs who get censured by state GOP because they voted against or talked against the dufus?
    Politicians are in a different world. We elect them because of their beliefs, and we vote them out or censure them for the same reason. One would hope that actors, plumbers, CEOs, etc, would not fit into that category.

    But that being said, I'm not altogether opposed to the idea of the cancel culture. I don't watch the NBA or NFL because of their stupid views on kneeling for the National Anthem. There are very few movies I watch because of the content and language of the movies. Still, when we begin to attempt to practically destroy individuals because they have political views with which we disagree, then that seems to be extreme.

    It would be nice if some of them would begin to develop a backbone and refuse to apologize. Chris Harrison would be a good place to start. John McEnroe had a run-in with the speech police several months concerning a statement he made about Serena Williams. He refused to apologize because he knew, and any thinking person knew, that what he said was correct.
  • Feb 17, 2021, 06:37 AM
    tomder55
    I have a question .. We can’t call it the “Chinese” virus cuz that’s racist but calling variations of COVID the “South African” strain or “U.K.” strain are perfectly acceptable?
  • Feb 17, 2021, 07:34 AM
    talaniman
    Just wait for the Wyoming strain of the virus, or the NC strain of the virus. I guess you're to use to the abrasive hyperbolic dufus speech Tom. Hopefully that will change once the 4 years of hateful hollering screaming lying and blaming wears off. Fingers crossed.

    The repub infighting is amusing so far as throwing rocks at other repubs is a sport I can get with.
  • Feb 17, 2021, 08:31 AM
    tomder55
    So you don't have an answer . Diseases traditionally have names based on where they originated ( Ebola River in the Democratic Republic of the Congo ; West Nile Virus; German Measles and yes even regionally in the US like Lyme disease , Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever and St. Louis Encephalitis) .

    NOT calling covid the China virus was the exception. Do they wield so much power over us that we cower to their demands ?
  • Feb 17, 2021, 08:39 AM
    talaniman
    Did the dufus have to stoke the flames of resentment with his derisive style? His incompetent bigmouth is what sunk him, so why hold on to such a self defeating strategy since THAT guy is gone?

    Trying to be civil while you righties recover from the years of dufism. Please refrain from kicking us liberals for trying to pull you by the ankles from the dufus arse.

    Your ankles are all we can see of our right wing brothers.
  • Feb 17, 2021, 10:05 AM
    tomder55
    Today's Black lister is Chris Harrison ;host of The Bachelor .
    And what did he do ? Nothing .
    What happened was that Rachael Kirkconnell, a contestant on the show in 2018 attended an 'Old South 'themed dance in college . I'm sure she was dressed up as a Southern Belle and not a white hooded KKK member . The social media thought police started looking for the dirt when she became a contestant and it did not take long for the fire storm to start .

    Now what has that to do with Harrison ? Well initially he would not condemn her and withheld judgment. “We all need to have a little grace, a little understanding, a little compassion.” Then he made the unpardonable sin of saying he was not the "woke police" .

    Wrong !! In the cancel culture you are either part of the solution or part of the problem . Non-commitment is as good as guilty . He is guilty of refusing to condemn her .

    His punishment ? Last week he announced he was 'stepping aside ' as host of the show .
  • Feb 17, 2021, 10:20 AM
    jlisenbe
    Gina Carano, about whom I know very little, has taken the right approach. She has apologized for nothing and instead started in a different direction.

    "“The Daily Wire is helping make one of my dreams — to develop and produce my own film — come true. I cried out and my prayer was answered,” Carano posted Friday on Instagram. “I am sending out a direct message of hope to everyone living in fear of cancellation by the totalitarian mob. I have only just begun using my voice which is now freer than ever before, and I hope it inspires others to do the same."

    It sure does inspire me!!

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...isney-2279589/
  • Feb 17, 2021, 10:38 AM
    talaniman
    Is the right wing cancel culture just as bad? Or is this more right wing hollering about the dems? I remember when you guys defended the bosses right to hire and fire who he pleased for whatever reason.

    Now you say the boss can't have control over his own product?
  • Feb 17, 2021, 10:45 AM
    tomder55
    The boss still can fire almost at will . What I am pointing out is the mob mentality of the cancel culture . If something as petty as NOT taking to task a contestant who dressed up like a Southern Belle to attend a college dance can get someone canned then anything can. Show me examples where the right applies anything close to this and I will comment on it . In the meantime I will continue to do this . The thing that has been bipartisan is the victims . The left eats their own as well as those from the right . Robespierre awaits his turn in the Guillotine .It is just a matter of time with the left Jacobin mob.
  • Feb 17, 2021, 11:10 AM
    tomder55
    Students and alumni of Harvard University are signing a letter, titled, “Revoke Their Degrees,” which asks Harvard’s leadership to take action against Sen. Ted Cruz, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, and former White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany by banning them from campus and stripping them of their degrees.
  • Feb 17, 2021, 11:17 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Students and alumni of Harvard University are signing a letter, titled, “Revoke Their Degrees,” which asks Harvard’s leadership to take action against Sen. Ted Cruz, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, and former White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany by banning them from campus and stripping them of their degrees.

    I can see where the kids and elites actions would bug you, almost as the fringers who can't distinguish between BLM and loony criminals bug me. Join the party.
  • Feb 17, 2021, 11:39 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Students and alumni of Harvard University are signing a letter, titled, “Revoke Their Degrees,” which asks Harvard’s leadership to take action against Sen. Ted Cruz, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, and former White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany by banning them from campus and stripping them of their degrees.
    They will keep pushing this and it will turn out ugly. Liberal dems have now become the wealthy elite.
  • Feb 17, 2021, 12:36 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    They will keep pushing this and it will turn out ugly. Liberal dems have now become the wealthy elite.

    They get more like conservative repubs and their wealthy elites everyday which is sad, but it's always been that way in truth. No less sad, but reality.
  • Feb 17, 2021, 01:27 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Today's Black lister is Chris Harrison ;host of The Bachelor .
    And what did he do ? Nothing .
    What happened was that Rachael Kirkconnell, a contestant on the show in 2018 attended an 'Old South 'themed dance in college . I'm sure she was dressed up as a Southern Belle and not a white hooded KKK member . The social media thought police started looking for the dirt when she became a contestant and it did not take long for the fire storm to start .

    Now what has that to do with Harrison ? Well initially he would not condemn her and withheld judgment. “We all need to have a little grace, a little understanding, a little compassion.” Then he made the unpardonable sin of saying he was not the "woke police" .

    Wrong !! In the cancel culture you are either part of the solution or part of the problem . Non-commitment is as good as guilty . He is guilty of refusing to condemn her .

    His punishment ? Last week he announced he was 'stepping aside ' as host of the show .

    This is pretty much true as tomder has described it. I would add that Chris Harrison made the most abject apology I have ever heard, yet he was still roundly criticized by two commentators on cable TV last night. It was suggested that he only made the apology because he "got caught", and that his apology represented an example of "white privilege".

    Is a sincere apology never accepted? If so, that is not a road anyone should be taking - right or left.
  • Feb 17, 2021, 07:27 PM
    talaniman
    Loons and morons on both sides. They're every friggin where!
  • Feb 18, 2021, 07:08 AM
    tomder55
    Today's black lister is Heather Mewshaw ,who makes a living doing sign language interpretations for speakers . She has done so for 21 years. She was used as an interpreter for the Quid White House standing beside Press Secretary Jen Psaki during one of her press briefings . She was hired by the White House in November and had done a few for the Trump team also.

    She had also in the past did signing for some right wing videos . She says the goal of her signing is about giving the deaf access and it is not political . “Deaf people just want a chance to decide for themselves what information is out there,” she said.'

    The Compost wrote :
    [The interpreter] who appeared in the White House coronavirus briefing on Monday beside press secretary Jen Psaki was identified by deaf and hard-of-hearing advocates and Time Magazine, fueling questions about the White House’s vetting process and what could have happened if [she] misinterpreted Biden officials or inserted her own bias. No one has publicly disputed her interpretation, but many questioned why the White House would legitimize her by giving [her] the national platform.
    …More than 3,500 people have signed a petition to have [the interpreter] banned from interpreting for the White House. Some indicated they intended to report her.

    That petition by Change .org now has 9,000 signatures. She has not been officially fired ,but she may be blackballed . She has not appeared at the White House since .

    A White House spokesman declined to comment beyond referring to an earlier, prepared statement that said, "The President and this administration have made a commitment to having an ASL interpreter at every press briefing and are working to follow through on that commitment every single day."

    Just not using Mewshaw . She has been cancelled .
  • Feb 18, 2021, 07:57 AM
    talaniman
    You call these event cancel culture but seems often private/government enterprises have chosen to mitigate their losses over controversy by getting rid of the controversy very quickly. Now it's on steroids'.

    What did you expect? Loyalty? Fair play? Naw cheaper to get rid of the problem and everybody does the math. So go ahead and get to the politics of it and blame the dems.

    That is your point isn't it?
  • Feb 18, 2021, 08:14 AM
    tomder55
    if the shoe fits wear it
  • Feb 18, 2021, 08:30 AM
    talaniman
    I prefer to choose my own shoes thanks, as do you.
  • Feb 18, 2021, 12:29 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    She had also in the past did signing for some right wing videos ..

    She did more than "signing for some right wing videos". She is a Trump supporter, founded a right-wing website, and controversially signed on January 6 for a right-wing video wearing a red MAGA hat.

    Surely the Biden Administration has the right to choose their employees.
  • Feb 18, 2021, 02:38 PM
    tomder55
    Quid doesn't have the testicular fortitude to come right out and say .... you are fired .Instead his administration made a marshmallow generic statement about supporting signing .

    Mewshaw would put on a MAGA hat if the hearing person was speaking as a Trump supporter or within a MAGA rally so she could “match” with the tone of the hearing person. If they were wearing sun glasses so would she . She admits that she is a Trump supporter . But that did NOT affect her professionalism . She knew that if she was working in the White House she could not display her preferences . And no one has accused her of doing so(despite the woke goon squad that photoshopped her in a MAGA hat while interpreting for Psaki .)

    Yeah Quid can hire and fire as he pleases . Quid also says he wants to heal the nation and unify the nation yada yada yada . Apparently his base wants nothing to do with that .

    The real beef is that anyone would sign for Trump or the right .That person must be cancelled .
  • Feb 18, 2021, 03:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    So much for tolerance.
  • Feb 18, 2021, 05:29 PM
    paraclete
    tolerance, who wants to be tolerated?
  • Feb 18, 2021, 06:11 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Quid doesn't have the testicular fortitude to come right out and say .... you are fired .Instead his administration made a marshmallow generic statement about supporting signing .

    Nobody was more of a marshmallow than Trump. He never had the balls to fire anyone face-to-face. He tweeted or had a flunkie do his dirty work - like the coward he was, is, and always will be.

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    Mewshaw would put on a MAGA hat if the hearing person was speaking as a Trump supporter or within a MAGA rally so she could “match” with the tone of the hearing person. If they were wearing sun glasses so would she
    Pure nonsense! She was a dedicated Trumpist - as you admit below.

    Quote:

    . She admits that she is a Trump supporter ..... And no one has accused her of doing so(despite the woke goon squad that photoshopped her in a MAGA hat while interpreting for Psaki .)
    She admitted that she wore the MAGA hat - not photoshopped.

    Quote:

    Quid also says he wants to heal the nation and unify the nation yada yada yada . Apparently his base wants nothing to do with that .
    It's the Republican/Trump base that wants nothing to do with unity, not Biden's. Your strategy of twisting everything a**-backards isn't working. It's a recognizable tactic used by the right-wing for many years.
  • Feb 19, 2021, 08:03 AM
    talaniman
    I remember when the dufus was firing people for being part of the previous administration or someone they didn't want and the mantra then was a president has a right to name his own team, and everybody serves at the pleasure of the president.

    When Joe does it then it's the cancel culture, and whomever has a right to keep working. Go figure.
  • Feb 19, 2021, 12:49 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    It's the Republican/Trump base that wants nothing to do with unity, not Biden's.
    You mean as in the 1.9 tril vote buying scheme known as the Covid relief bill for which all repub input was rejected?
  • Feb 19, 2021, 08:46 PM
    paraclete
    I thought it was a given that the party in power ignores the advice of their opposition
  • Feb 21, 2021, 11:56 AM
    talaniman
    If they have the votes they can ignore the minority party, especially since stalling and delays is all they can do.
  • Feb 22, 2021, 05:13 AM
    tomder55
    John Adams set the standard . Because he believed that everyone in a free country deserves a defense ,he defended the Brits involved in the Boston Massacre . There once was a time that the left in America trumpeted the importance of every American having the right to an attorney. Now, not so much.

    Today's black listers are targets because they dared to defend Trump during the recent show trial .

    Michael van der Leen's house was vandalized with smashed windows and ugly grafitti . He has been forced to hire armed guards for his protection and has move his wife and children to a secret location.

    David Schoen has been cancelled . An offer to teach a civil rights class at a law school was rescinded after he took the job defending Trump.

    If the left accuses you of something, you are automatically guilty, and no trial is needed. And anyone who disagrees is automatically guilty as well, and must be hounded and black listed .
  • Feb 22, 2021, 05:52 PM
    paraclete
    Yes the left is unforgiving but Trump will be hounded until incarcerated and not even then will he be left alone. He had the affront to defeat the darling of the left and he did it without chicanery, He also denounced the left's so called victory
  • Feb 22, 2021, 06:29 PM
    tomder55
    That is true . Cy Vance Jr is hounding him .

    Trump loses Supreme Court appeal to shield tax records from NY prosecutor (cnbc.com)

    and the left has a pack of hyenas nipping at his testicles .

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