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  • Jan 4, 2021, 09:01 AM
    Athos
    Mark Your Calendars
    January 21, 2021.


    The date Trump is eligible to face formal charges of money laundering, insurance fraud, rape, campaign finance violations, lying under oath, bribery, conspiracy, and treason.

    (with thanks to DW)
  • Jan 4, 2021, 10:02 AM
    Wondergirl
    Plus someone Trump's married to may file for divorce.
  • Jan 4, 2021, 10:43 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Plus someone Trump's married to may file for divorce.

    That, too.
  • Jan 4, 2021, 10:53 AM
    jlisenbe
    What happened to your unconditional love?? Just seeing a lot of vengeful hate here.
  • Jan 4, 2021, 06:41 PM
    paraclete
    I think it sounds more like glee
  • Jan 4, 2021, 07:03 PM
    jlisenbe
    Whatever happened with the Australian coal embargoed at Chinese ports. Was that ever resolved?
  • Jan 4, 2021, 08:08 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I think it sounds more like glee

    Definitely GLEE!
  • Jan 4, 2021, 08:34 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Whatever happened with the Australian coal embargoed at Chinese ports. Was that ever resolved?

    No the trade war with China goes on, they happily freeze while our ships sit outside their ports. The thing is; the impact is isolated while China is a big part of our export market, it represents a small part of our economy really. The effects of the trade war will be felt in tourism, education and mining sectors mainly, but local effects due to covid are a more pressing problem.

    Very soon they will feel the effects of famine too and they will change their tune. Wolf Warrior tactics only work when the other side doesn't have alternatives
  • Jan 5, 2021, 07:38 AM
    jlisenbe
    It will be interesting to see what the Chinese do next. I would think they have thought this out pretty carefully. We’ll see.
  • Jan 5, 2021, 07:52 AM
    talaniman
    Georgia votes today for senate control, and the dufus failing in the courts and states depends on Pence to save him tomorrow from being a humiliated loser. Fireworks to follow for sure either way.
  • Jan 5, 2021, 09:17 AM
    Athos
    DC is bringing out the National Guard to control the Trump thugs.
  • Jan 5, 2021, 03:53 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It will be interesting to see what the Chinese do next. I would think they have thought this out pretty carefully. We’ll see.

    No I think it is reactionary, obviously with coal they haven't thought it out, they have replaced high quality coal with mongolian rubbish and the thing with agriculture doesn't make a lot of sense
  • Jan 5, 2021, 04:39 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    they haven't thought it out
    I somehow doubt that, but we'll see. It is certainly possible.
  • Jan 5, 2021, 04:53 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I somehow doubt that, but we'll see. It is certainly possible.

    Yes the Chinese have invested heavily in Australian agriculture, they own a number of wineries yet they have imposed punitive tariffs on Australian wine, they have damaged the Australian lobster industry but that is a high end product that can be exported to other markets and they have just made it cheaper locally and beef can go to places like Indonesia. We haven't retaliated yet but it seems pointless anyway we don't favour Chinese autos considering them second rate, there are plenty of places we can source white goods from. All we need to do is stop iron ore exports and we would cripple their industries for a time.

    Because they operate in a large way such as fisheries they don't realise that our industries are not of the same scale and are much more efficient so that the economic impact isn't high
  • Jan 5, 2021, 06:00 PM
    jlisenbe
    Sounds like you guys are in good shape. We'll see how it pans out.
  • Jan 5, 2021, 06:15 PM
    paraclete
    yes covid recession has receded and we have few cases but some panic reaction, no China based recession which was probably the intention, we don't bow to mandarins
  • Jan 6, 2021, 09:34 AM
    talaniman
    I think you are the victim of the dufus trade wars as we have been, and like us you just have to wait it out until a better business climate emerges.
  • Jan 6, 2021, 02:35 PM
    paraclete
    No we are a victim of speaking out asking for an investigation in Wuhan which the Chinese are still avoiding even from the WHO. They have done a lot of deflecting but it seems covid was a laboratory experiment that escaped and one wonders what was the purpose of that research?
  • Jan 7, 2021, 08:48 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    it seems covid was a laboratory experiment that escaped
    It does seem to be true. I'm sure Mr. Biden will hold their feet to the fire on this deal, or at least on days when he can remember who China is.
  • Jan 7, 2021, 01:49 PM
    paraclete
    China is an easy target, he will have to deal with the EU too
  • Jan 7, 2021, 04:04 PM
    talaniman
    You have as much a chance of China admitting anything about covid as you do getting your dirt unloaded and paid for. Both are years in the future if then.
  • Jan 7, 2021, 04:47 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    China is an easy target, he will have to deal with the EU too
    He will have to do TWO things at once??? That is going to be a problem.
  • Jan 7, 2021, 05:09 PM
    paraclete
    Yes but the first task is to extract Trump from the WH
  • Jan 7, 2021, 05:30 PM
    talaniman
    I've been hoping for a perp walk on prime time national TV. Taking him off Facebook and Instagram doesn't seem like enough to me.
  • Jan 7, 2021, 06:25 PM
    jlisenbe
    Then his first task will be easy.
  • Jan 7, 2021, 07:09 PM
    paraclete
    only when he has the SS frog march Trump out
  • Jan 7, 2021, 07:32 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Then his first task will be easy.

    Call the cleaning crew and take inventory of the silverware.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    only when he has the SS frog march Trump out

    Or locked in a looney bin with his followers.
  • Jan 7, 2021, 11:11 PM
    paraclete
    No he will pardon himself and the legal wrangle will last for years at his age he will get a free pass
  • Jan 8, 2021, 07:00 AM
    talaniman
    He better hurry up before they storm the WH and lock his a$$ up.
  • Jan 8, 2021, 05:42 PM
    paraclete
    they are not going to do that, twelve days left, much time for grandstanding in that circus you call a Congress
  • Jan 11, 2021, 12:04 PM
    talaniman
    No worse than Aussies dithering over dirt.
  • Jan 11, 2021, 01:21 PM
    paraclete
    dithering? we are taking the long view, the Chinese are behaving like children
  • Jan 11, 2021, 05:43 PM
    talaniman
    While your dirt sits on unloaded boats in their harbors. I'm sure the Europeans would love high quality dirt at dirt cheap prices.
  • Jan 11, 2021, 06:40 PM
    paraclete
    Europeans don't want coal Tal, they have drunk the koolaid and rely on the wind, that is those who don't use nuclear but the japs like our high quality coal as an alternative to nuclear
  • Jan 11, 2021, 07:04 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    but the japs like our high quality coal as an alternative to nuclear
    I can understand their aversion to nuclear after the tsunami disaster, but that seems to be really questionable.
  • Jan 12, 2021, 05:11 AM
    paraclete
    Only by the green lobby
  • Jan 12, 2021, 06:21 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Only by the green lobby
    Good observation.
  • Jan 12, 2021, 10:16 AM
    talaniman
    Let's just stick to facts here.

    This is what nuclear power looks like 8 years after Fukushima | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
  • Jan 12, 2021, 01:08 PM
    paraclete
    again with the "facts"

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