This is a must read. It's short and reveals the election day plans by Trump and his cronies. Is this the America you want? Note how Trump's inner circle skates around the charges.
https://www.axios.com/trump-claim-el...fb47f613f.html
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This is a must read. It's short and reveals the election day plans by Trump and his cronies. Is this the America you want? Note how Trump's inner circle skates around the charges.
https://www.axios.com/trump-claim-el...fb47f613f.html
Trump Wins; He crows about it for months on end
Trump Loses; He declares it a corrupt election and forces matters to drag through the courts...
What happens on Tuesday night if Biden is declared the winner? Will all those ballots sitting in post offices or drop boxes have to be gathered up and counted (over the next two weeks) with the hope Trump will come out on top after all?
If only it were that simple. Suggest you read the article in the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Curlyben
PS - Do you respond to internal messages? I have one to you from several days ago re DixieChick66 lack of profile- no response.
Sometimes, but check again ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Athos
I checked, still nothing. I'll post it here to make it easier for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Curlyben
Trying to access the profile of DixieChick66, I get a message saying I can't do it. I'm curious why that member's profile is not accessible.
Thanks, Athos.
(sent October 21)
I checked the profile of new member, Letilou, yesterday. Nada. If I remember correctly, the new member has to post X number of times before a profile appears -- and, of course, that new member can then add personal information to that profile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Athos
The profile is now accessible. There are NO more posts than there were when I first inquired. Hmmmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Maybe fresh air opened it.
Maybe then a number of days have to pass before the profile is available/visible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Athos
I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I contacted another member here over a month ago and that member tried to contact a moderator on this issue - no success.
Here is the message I got when attempting to access Dixie profile :
Athos, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
- If you are trying to post, you probably have not activated your account by clicking the link in the email we sent to you. Remember, the email may be in your bulk email folder.
- Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post or access administrative features or some other privileged system?
Note there is no mention of X number of days before allowing access to a profile.
All new members are placed on moderation until they have posted a number of times.
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Frightening Election Day Prognosis by Trump Camp
This is a must read. It's short and reveals the election day plans by Trump and his cronies. Is this the America you want? Note how Trump's inner circle skates around the charges.
https://www.axios.com/trump-claim-el...fb47f613f.html
If he has a commanding lead in key battleground states like Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, Iowa, Arizona, Georgia then he would be right no matter how long it took to count the ballots .
Gotta love the collegiate voting system, the only one where a persons vote really doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Lose the popular vote, yet still get elected....
TBH, all voting systems have their downsides, but none as big as the electoral college system
That's not what the article said.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Thank you for that info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Curlyben
I think it should be included in the auto-message I quoted above and which I received when inquiring. In any case, it seems rather vague - how many times?
As it's part of the measures we have in place to curtail spammer/scammer activity I can't give you an exact number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Athos
as opposed to candidates only being concerned with the issues important to the costal elite cities . The new presidential campaign trail would heavily feature New York, California, ,the DC area ,Texas, and Florida, which combined account for 58.5 million registered voters The other states would be "fly over " neglected states , and the federal benefits they enjoy would likely disappear as well. WE were not designed to be a popular democracy .Even when it was 13 states the interests of regions had to be considered to create a union. A popular voting system would destroy that basic framework.Quote:
Gotta love the collegiate voting system, the only one where a persons vote really doesn't matter.
Lose the popular vote, yet still get elected....
TBH, all voting systems have their downsides, but none as big as the electoral college system
We will see how popular voting democracy works in a republic . I don't know what turnout will be this cycle . But most often it hovers around 50-60 % and even less in non-presidential years . But the popular vote will not change that . Turnout should be higher in swing states like Florida . But even with campaigns concentrating their efforts there ,Florida only had about 65% turnout in 2016. So even when a candidate gets a majority vote it does not represent the majority will of the people .
And how does one rationalize a winner take all system when the popular vote comes down to a percentage or 2 or slightly more even in blow out elections ? Maybe we should go back to the days of the 1800 election when the 2nd place candidate took the VP ?
Without the EC the 2 party system would collapse .It would be replaced with the people voting on a ballot of extreme fringe candidates all vying for pluralities instead of majorities or near majorities . Imagine the leader of the country being selected by 25-30 % of the popular vote or less . That would happen in a popular vote system .So your theory of win the popular vote win the election falls flat .
We elect a President ,not a Parliament that had to build ruling coalitions after a vote . The 2 party system at least moderates both parties . To get something done requires compromise
It is not perfect . But we were never promised perfect . Our mission statement is to form a more perfect union. That cannot happen unless all the people's issues are considered .
All the peoples issues cannot be considered unless they all participate. 97 million early votes is encouraging, if they all count.
We may never be perfect but must strive to be and no doubt we could stand some tweaks and upgrades to the system.
That is the beauty of the amendment process. We don't use it enough .And I'm not talking about the method normally used . That is slow and arduous.
You forgot the bloody brutal struggle that continues to this day just for voting rights. Slow and arduous is an understatement given the shenanigans and opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Today when I voted I thanked poll watchers from both parties for their patriotic service . I trust the results from my district because of their dedication .
What was really encouraging was that for the 1st time I can remember . Both poll watchers were younger than me . I don't think that was a reflection of my age as much as a increase in the concept of civic duty amongst the younger generations .
They deserved it if they were as friendly courteous and helpful as the ones I countered.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Everybody looks younger to you Tom (me too!), because they are you old coot. 8D I'll be honest as I have seen the youngsters show me a lot of respect for my age the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
4 years ago it was my geezer peers doing the poll watching . Yesterday they did a detailed examination of my signature instead of a quick glance . They noted my signature had slightly changed . I told them the problem was that in the past I used a pen and not a stylus .
One thing that has to be agreed upon is that this is the 2nd election that the polling organizations got hopelessly wrong . Latest example ..
Susan Collins has won the Maine Senate race.Collins did not lead a single poll the entire cycle, and trailed by 5.5 in the Real Clear Politics average in the final two months of the campaign.
Appears Mitch will keep the senate gavel at this point.
Collins has a lot of leverage and has often crossed the aisle . She has another 6 years ;will probably not run again after serving for 30 years ,
She and other repubs have a somewhat good rep among both sides, but everybody has to toe the party line in recent years. Partisanship and gridlock combined with tribalism doesn't solve problems and no where is that more apparent than our response to this economy destroying virus. 90,000 new cases in one day?
the virus is in it's 2nd circumnavigation of the planet . It is what it is . What would be economy destroying is the Quid prescription of hunkering down and not living our lives . Quid must've built an alter to the virus. It gave him his ONLY campaign issue.
Ha! Sickness and death gets attention of all the Earth. So did the dufus not dealing with it properly. Everybody has to adjust to it AGAIN!
You can explain how living your life when you're sick or dead is a good thing any time you want.
Thats northern hemisphere like AGW/ CV19 is a northern hemisphere problem now the big question are they linked does paranoia grow and growQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Grover Cleveland Trump .... 2024
Trump will move on, he will be too old in 2024 besides we don't know what the issues will be then, they will not be what they are today
You're drifting, tomder. Time to wake up and return to reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Trump is done. He will be a joke for the rest of his life. The president who was impeached and could not get anywhere near his campaign promises - his promise to have Mexico pay for the wall, his promise to eliminate Obamacare, and his promise to "drain the swamp". The Trump swamp dwarfs whatever swamp was there when he took office.
The damage he did to the country will soon be rectified by Biden-Harris. Pay attention.
No america will be dragged into socialism, Biden will be a pawn to the Harris agendaQuote:
Originally Posted by Athos
What is your definition of socialism?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Universal free health care, shutdowns and mask wearing mandatory, mandatory CV19 testing and isolation, climate change programs, welfare programs instead of boosting employment, housing schemes, public transport, massive increase in public service and regulation, free tertiary education, the list is endlessQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Well we got rid of the lying cheating stealing bullying dufus, but the right wing loony noise machine is still alive and well still.
At least you named what was asked, unlike your fellow anti-socialists here who did a lot less than you did. Now, WHY are these things "socialism"?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
What's wrong with free health care? Don't you want people to be healthy and cared for when sick? Shutdowns as necessary and mask wearing mandatory during a crisis is not acceptable? Why not?
Climate change programs, public transport, etc., - WHY are these programs not acceptable to you? Welfare programs don't REPLACE unemployment, they are in addition to it. Doesn't free tertiary education in state schools improve the society? Why are you against that?
I hope you can reply in detail.
I did not say they are unacceptable but it depends on how you implement them, your last attempt at health care was a farce, not socialist, but capitalist advantaging big business. Putting government money into that farce called climate change is just another way of advantaging big business. You have welfare programs without addressing minimum livable wages just subsidising big business. True socialism would nationalise those big businesses. By all means have free tertiary education, free secondary education, free elementary education but don't spend the money on useless liberal oriented courses. I know about shutdowns, they were successfully implemented here and we are down to zero community infection but it took real leadership curtailing individual freedoms, not popular and killed many small businesses. I can't see it happening thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Athos
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