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Trump Plans Nov 3 Election Invalid!

Trump is planning to have the presidential election on NOV 3 declared invalid. If this surprises you, you haven't been paying attention.

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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

Because of the new and unprecedented massive amount of unsolicited ballots which will be sent to “voters”, or wherever, this year, the Nov 3rd Election result may NEVER BE ACCURATELY DETERMINED, which is what some want. Another election disaster yesterday. Stop Ballot Madness!

As usual, he couches it in his tweet so he can test the reaction and deny it if necessary. But does anyone doubt that invalidating the election if he loses is exactly what he will do? If the election cannot be determined, Trump will claim/demand he remain in office.

Trump's partner-in-crime Attorney General Barr is the face of the new fascism. He is critical of his own prosecutors who are doing their job, and even went so far as to compare the "state lockdowns as the worst infringement of civil liberties since slavery." Barr badly needs to discover what the reality of slavery was in this country.

Trump desperately needs to win the election or declare it invalid since the alternative for him is prison, and he knows it.

I don't see invalid or any of it's derivatives in his tweet . It is you that is suggesting that.

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Originally Posted by Athos

Trump desperately needs to win the election or declare it invalid since the alternative for him is prison, and he knows it.

I doubt he's thought that far ahead already. Losing is like the American people saying "You're fired," so no more bowing and scraping lackeys around him, no more freebies, no more screaming fans. Power and control will be gone. He'll have to buy his own McDonald's cheeseburgers and fries and egg mcmuffins and Philly cheesesteaks.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I don't see invalid or any of it's derivatives in his tweet . It is you that is suggesting that.

Trump suggests "the Nov 3 election result may never be determined". What does it suggest to you? As a fervent Trump supporter, you know as well as anyone how Trump acts. He always dog whistles, knowing he will get his point across.

An election not determined will not go the House. That's for ties, not crimes. Trump will charge right in, claiming the presidency is his. From there, there are many options and Trump will consider them all.

Sorry WG, but Trump is terrified of his impending doom in prison. That is a large part, probably the largest part, of his erratic behavior as the election draws closer and closer.

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Trump suggests "the Nov 3 election result may never be determined".

Bottom line is that this push for mail in ballots is tailor made to extend the vote beyond the Congressionally mandated electoral college vote ;and throw the election into chaos .If anyone is orchestrating a constitutional crisis it is the Dems .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

If anyone is orchestrating a constitutional crisis it is the Dems .

Nope, it's Mother Nature and her Covid-19. What do you suggest instead of mail-in ballots?

I intend to go my polling place and vote in person ,in private . I suppose that states that have a history of holding elections by mail in ballot at least have a record of securing the vote . Most of the states that hastily created mail in ballots do not know how to do it . They proved that in the primaries .

You remember the chaos in 2000 when one states results were in question. There will be multiple states this year and there will be chaos and you know it .
Like I said ;The Dems are orchestrating chaos and they are preparing for it . Call these 'peaceful protests ' as dress rehearsal .Here is the bible .

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-chaos/616255/

and yes they are already preparing the battle field with article like above and posts like this one .
and this
https://www.axios.com/2020-election-...e02e95f61.html

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/el...-20200522.html

The 5th of November is Guy Fawke's Day commemorating a coup attempt in England. The 3rd of November could be our equivalent . We already KNOW that the election won't end November 3 because some states like North Carolina are accepting mail in ballots past the Nov 3 deadline .NC Nov 6 ;Minn Nov 20 ...BOTH SWING STATES !!!
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/how-to-vote-2020/

There are many articles already (and I previously linked to one ) that suggest that Trump may win on election night. But two weeks later, once all the mail-in ballots are counted, Joe Biden may be declared the winner after all. I was called a conspiracy nut for suggesting it . But both sides are preparing for that . Evita already told Quid to not accept the results on election night . Both Dems and Repubs are telling their people to prepare for the other side's attempt to stealing the election .Lawyers for both sides are already preparing to head to state capitols of disputed states . I see no scenario where this election ends well.

The hard facts mandated are that under federal law, the presidential election must take place on Nov. 3, and the electors chosen on that day must vote on Dec. 14 to select the new president and vice president. These dates can’t be changed without an act of Congress, and the 20th Amendment sets Inauguration Day on Jan. 20.

SCOTUS affirmed the constitutional provisions that the states MUST hold " all elections for Congress and the Presidency on a single day throughout the Union .” Counting un-postmarked mailed ballots that arrive after Election Day would be unconstitutional by this ruling .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I intend to go my polling place and vote in person ,in private .

What about registered voters who don't wish to stand in a long line with unmasked, clumped-together-in-line fellow voters?

too bad !!!! When I see Afghans and Iraqis proudly standing on long lines with the threat of a terrorist attack because they dare vote and listen to that type of whining I am not moved by the issue. Every state has provisions for absentee ballots . They should utilize it if they don't want to go to the polls .

My objection is that states that have no experience with mail in voting are mailing out ballots like they are junk mail coupons whether some one needs them or not . These same people you speak of have no issues standing on line at Walmart, Costco ,or Target. Why can't they keep 6' distance on line at the precincts ? Why are they capable of doing that at the grocery store but not at the polls ?

The election is supposed to be finished except in the case of a recount in a day. It should not be a 6-8 week affair ;and you know already that is going to happen . It will be a disaster that will create a Constitutional crisis . Good Job !!! The Dems want the system destroyed and they have found a convenient excuse to make it happen .....classic Cloward Piven .... overwhelm a system to bring it down .

Then we have this...https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fe...?ocid=msedgntp

not necessary

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ressure-397765

"In his decision, Bastian largely granted that request, ordering the Postal Service to reverse any instructions for mail carriers to leave mail behind at postal facilities, to stop requiring trucks to leave at set times regardless of whether the mail is ready and to allow return trips to distribution centers to ensure “timely delivery.”"

A court order is better than taking someone's word.

you do realize that court decisions can be appealed ad infinitum . The election is in 6 weeks . IF the decision was to maliciously delay the delivery of ballots , that court case would not deter .

The wheels of justice turn slow, and appeals are part of it. The thing is that a light has been shed on the issue and everybody and his lawyer is watching. Sure it could be appealed, but why would they? Or should they?

yes why would they when they already decided to delay the reforms

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Originally Posted by tomder55

IF the decision was to maliciously delay the delivery of ballots , that court case would not deter .

If Joyboy DeJoy had not screwed up the postal system and deliveries, this wouldn't have even been a topic to crab about.

Yeah. Boy that Post Office had such a sterling reputation for efficiency for decades before Trump messed it up. Note: Sarcasm meter pegged.

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Trump is planning to have the presidential election on NOV 3 declared invalid

We know that's true because...well, just because!

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

If Joyboy DeJoy had not screwed up the postal system and deliveries, this wouldn't have even been a topic to crab about.

It's hard to dismiss the fact that DeJoy was purposely sent to do just that. Screw up the postal system and deliveries. Another Trump appointee who doesn't know a thing about the position he's appointed to. It couldn't be more transparent as Trump gets more desperate daily.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Yeah. Boy that Post Office had such a sterling reputation for efficiency for decades before Trump messed it up. Note: Sarcasm meter pegged.

Our mail has been faithfully delivered in the early afternoon for years by super-nice mailpersons. My husband's Express Scripts meds have also been delivered a week or so before he's needed those refills. Now we hold our breath. Thank goodness we don't live in a swing state!

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It's hard to dismiss the fact that DeJoy was purposely sent to do just that.

Yet another wild accusation with zero evidence.

As to the Post Office, they signed a two day delivery contract with Amazon that has stretched them to the limit. Never thought I'd see the day when mail would be delivered on Sunday. Want to take a wild guess who was pres when that contract happened?

For us, our mail runs like it always has, and they do a really good job with the two day deliveries. So much for anecdotal accounts.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

As to the Post Office, they signed a two day delivery contract with Amazon that has stretched them to the limit.

Trump hates Bezos because Bezos is richer!

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Originally Posted by wondergirl

trump hates bezos because bezos is richer!

lololol

or it could be because Bezos owns the rag Washington Compost which never reports fairly on Trump ,and has been the point for the 'resistance '

There was enough evidence for a judge to issue an injunction to reverse all tactics that lead to a slowdown of the mail.

yawn the left creates the crisis and then projects it onto someone else . If we had the most timely delivery system imagined it would not prevent the coming chaos because the States are not prepared to implement the decisions re mail in voting they made . When those primaries took almost a month to count ;no one said it was because the mail wasn't delivered on time .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

yawn the left creates the crisis and then projects it onto someone else . If we had the most timely delivery system imagined it would not prevent the coming chaos because the States are not prepared to implement the decisions re mail in voting they made . When those primaries took almost a month to count ;no one said it was because the mail wasn't delivered on time .

You know for a progressive nation, no, progressive is the wrong word, developed nation, it seems you struggle to get the simplest things right. Could it be your emphasis on minimum wages for simple tasks means that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, or in other words the quality just isn't there. Counting votes doesn't require much, just diligence and integrity and enough people to get the job done quickly. It isn't that you don't have a vast pool of unemployed, it may be they just arn't available. The electoral process is one you have had many years to perfect, and yet you speak of votes not being counted on time. The logistics apparently escape you. Could it be you have just too many elections and this is electoral fatigue, too many officials to be elected, too much attention divided from the important issue of getting the job of governing the country done

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Originally Posted by tomder55

yawn the left creates the crisis and then projects it onto someone else . If we had the most timely delivery system imagined it would not prevent the coming chaos because the States are not prepared to implement the decisions re mail in voting they made . When those primaries took almost a month to count ;no one said it was because the mail wasn't delivered on time .

Nice spin as usual. We haven't created a crisis. The dufus has, like all the other crisis of chaos and confusion he has created.

spin ? The Dems have been constructing their narrative for some time now.I posted the findings of a 'war game ' conducted in June by the Transition Integrity Project that studied what would actually happen if the results were contested or not known for weeks after Election Day. They published their finding this month .
https://paxsims.files.wordpress.com/...ion-8-3-20.pdf

Heavy Democrat weighed polls showed Quid with insurmountable leads . That only worked for some time . The pollsters don't want to get burned like they did in 2016 . So the margins have shrunk to the margin of error. They don't want to appear to be like Baghdad Bob again.

So the left shifted the narrative to say that the election won't be decided on Nov 3.And even though Trump will appear to have won ;they should wait weeks for all these mail in ballots to be counted .

Then just like in 2016 they started floating the narrative that Trump won't accept defeat WHEN he loses . It has gone to such absurd lengths to suggest they will need the assistance of the US military to forcibly evict him.

They have also given out the beneficial effects of a delayed decision .How they ultimately get the Presidency by stalling past Jan 20 . Absent a clear winner of the presidential election on Jan 20, the Speaker of the House would serve as Acting President under the current succession law.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?...edition=prelim

It is all so predictable. There will be at least one "story" a week, characterized in many quarters as "breaking news". It will quietly be thoroughly refuted (refer to the Atlantic article), and any thinking person will accept that, only to be assaulted again mere days later by some other supposedly earth-shattering revelation. It is the hope of those in the liberal media, which is most of the media, that they can provide, not a steady "drip, drip", but rather a constant torrent of stories to make voting for Trump seem to be absurd. You certainly see it here. The story about the 100 shrinks who said Trump was mentally ill. Unable to name any of them, that was then inflated to include every psych on the earth. Or the challenge to name 10 Trump negatives to match 10 positives. See how far that went. The silly contention that a vaccine would not be ready until April which was disproven by the very article which was linked. Or all the scientists who supposedly claimed Trump was guilty of murdering people with the Covid virus.

At some point, something thrown against the wall will have to stick. References to "right-wing loons" doesn't get much done.

LOL, like repubs never play silly election tricks or talk crazy conspiracy stuff. That's not even good spin.

1. Which current tricks or "crazy conspiracy stuff" are your referring to?
2. I wasn't really referring to dems. I was more making a reference to the liberal press who can scarcely conceal their glee at the prospect of an ultra-liberal administration.

Like the conservative press isn't head over heels about the dufus. Your first question is covered amply in this forum so no need for repetition.

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Your first question is covered amply in this forum so no need for repetition.

What has now become the boringly predictive response. "Oh, I've already covered all of that. You know, back a month ago. Just go back and look it up."

Yeah. Right.

I was referring to them all and of course there are many. I've blasted the dufus for most and you've blasted me for being wrong so take your pick. Whatever your favorite one is. Unnamed named sources...up to you. I can only point out that a lot of prominent establishment conservative repubs are switching their votes, publicly and even running commercials.

The dufus cult isn't that popular nor a majority, unlike Obama, who won with a majority twice. He couldn't have been nearly as bad as you say. Even HC didn't lose nearly as bad as you guys make it out to be, and she didn't have Vlad helping her.

You're really gonna need Vlad again. The right wing noise machine may not be loud enough.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

You're really gonna need Vlad again. The right wing noise machine may not be loud enough.

The left has taken a leaf out of Vlad's book and tried to poison Trump. Maybe Trump does need Vlad to counter the dirty tricks

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Originally Posted by paraclete

The left has taken a leaf out of Vlad's book and tried to poison Trump. Maybe Trump does need Vlad to counter the dirty tricks

The right has taken brain cells out of your skull.

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Originally Posted by Athos

The right has taken brain cells out of your skull.

I don't need brain cells to understand that the losers will stop at nothing

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Originally Posted by paraclete

I don't need brain cells to understand that the losers will stop at nothing

Who's losing?

Yet to be tested but he who commands media attention is undoubtedly leading

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I don't need brain cells to understand that the losers will stop at nothing

You don't think winners use dirty tricks to keep what they won...by using dirty tricks?