OR ;what is taking his handlers so long to decide ? Or maybe none of his choices want the job ?

He has already announced he wants a woman of color . Is he backing out of that commitment ? Whoever he picks at this point will have to feel like they are the last one standing ;the consolation prize.
It is true he has a tough call .He doesn't want to pizz off the BLM /Antifa faction ,the Bolshevik Bernie faction . He knows that he doesn't have to appease the traditional party base because they have been sufficiently marginalized . Or maybe he just can't remember ,you know ,the thing .

Maybe he is afraid that whoever he chooses will out shine him ? Or maybe the party told him to hold off because they are reconsidering him being their standard bearer . He is not officially nominated yet so it is not too late to remove him.

He was supposed to announce last weekend . The one name he floated ;Karen Bass sunk like a lead balloon because she is a commie Castro lover .
Susan Rice has been mentioned . She is a protége of the emperor who looked like a real fool as she spread a Benghazi lie for him and Evita on every national tv network . She would be dangerous because her foreign policies she has taken throughout her career are recklessly dangerous . They are likely waiting for the end of the Durham investigation because she is complicit by signing off on unmasking Kamila Harris has twisted her otherwise laudable career as a prosecutor by trying to appease the hate police block of the party . Either way his delay makes him look indecisive .

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Just continuing a trend, or he may blow in the wind and select someoneelse

You need a match to start a fire Tom, and repubs have NOTHING but the dufus and his idiocy so Joe is in no hurry for the stop the show, and why should he be? Sure dems have baggage, but after a few years of repubs and the dufus, all look better than what passes as a government now. Or non government depending on what you're stuck with.

Your choice basement common sense, or rich guy golf rally! Go Joe GO!

The wait is over...Biden/Harris vs. dufus I/dufusIb!

I just wonder how she will square her tough law enforcement record with her new appease the 'hate the cops' faction of the majority of the Dems. I haven't heard her take on the thuggish marauding going on in Chi town this week .Does she condone it or is she afraid like the rest of the Dems are to take on their militia wing .

I wonder how touchy feelie quid pro basement Joe feels about this running mate who said last year that she believes the sexual assault accusers of Biden .She said “I believe them and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it,” Amy Lappos, Caitlyn Caruso, D. J. Hill, and Lucy Flores, all accused Biden of unwanted touching. Flores wrote about how Biden put his hands on her shoulders, smelled her hair from behind, and “proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head.”Lappos alleged that Biden “put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me…I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth.”
Caruso said Biden put his hand on her thigh and hugged her “just a bit too long” after she’d just spoken at an event about her experience of sexual assault. And Hill claimed that Biden moved his hand down her back during a photo op.Tara Reade accused him of sexually assaulting her while she worked in his U.S. Senate office in 1993. Reade said she told her story to Harris but Harris brushed her off. Harris was quick to come to the support of when a similar tale was told by a woman accusing creepy Joe.

I will get into why you would support a candidate like her who built her career by mass incarcerating minorities in California for petty marijuana crimes ;and who actively used Quid's draconian sentencing Federal laws on her reign of terror in California . Oh yes there is more to say about her .

so she might become a president with a greater reign of terror since Bush and his war on terror after quid carks it

All good questions to be answered in the coming days and months Tom, before the people. The real question of course is if Biden/Harris can overcome their baggage and the right wing noise machine and boot the dufus from his perch. Not like he doesn't have his own baggage and record to overcome while he slings mud and lies at his opponents I don't see mean and nasty and slow Joe commercials dampening the enthusiasm of the dems, nor the repubs voter suppression shenanigans slowing Joes role as Harris really does have an impressive law and order record as top cop in the most populated state of the union.

Joe resonates with the have nots especially minorities, and Harris certainly doesn't hurt him there, during this really scary crisis the dufus and repubs continue to mismanage on many levels. Will those latte liberals get with his program? I don't know but suspect moderate repubs just might. They hate the dufus too!

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Does she condone it or is she afraid like the rest of the Dems are to take on their militia wing .

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Military force is NOT the solution!!!

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most of Chi-towns problems are gang related . Most of the gangs are competing for the illegal drug trade. That makes it a Federal matter because it is Federal laws being violated . It is also an FBI matter because crime is happening interstate . Antifa is a terrorist organization . That makes it a Homeland Security matter . Most important ,the most fundamental reason for government to exist at all is protection of people's right to life, liberty and property .It is as old a concept as common law. The quintessential reason is the government'sduty to protect individuals against violence. It includes not only the enforcement of civil and criminal law with respect to injuries already committed,but also the responsibility to prevent violence before it occurred. It is also charged in the preamble to ensure domestic tranquility . Now if Mayor Beetlejuice refuses to take on that responsibility or is unable to do so then the Federal Government MUST act. If I was a shop owner on Chi-town's Magnificent Mile and was not getting adequate protection I would have no choice but to defend myself and property in the best manner I could . But I could also make a compelling case that the City was negligent in protecting my basic rights . I would also be looking to relocate my business out of that hell hole .

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lol She doesn't exactly help . She was lucky to muster 2% of the primary vote. And she comes from California ,a state Quid already has locked up . One is from one coast and one from the other . There is a lot of America in between. If I were him I would've gone with Klobuchar or even better ,Duckworth . Woman check ; Midwest check ,disabled American check , decorated Purple Heart veteran check . I've been on Twitter and the hard left is in meltdown . The Bernie /Warren faction feels left out . And at a time when the left if rioting all over the country in an effort to eliminate policing ,he picked a top cop .

ah decisions, decisions quid knew no matter what decision he made he would be crucified for it, that is the nature of choosing a woman

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most of Chi-towns problems are gang related . Most of the gangs are competing for the illegal drug trade. That makes it a Federal matter because it is Federal laws being violated . It is also an FBI matter because crime is happening interstate . Antifa is a terrorist organization . That makes it a Homeland Security matter . Most important ,the most fundamental reason for government to exist at all is protection of people's right to life, liberty and property .It is as old a concept as common law. The quintessential reason is the government'sduty to protect individuals against violence. It includes not only the enforcement of civil and criminal law with respect to injuries already committed,but also the responsibility to prevent violence before it occurred. It is also charged in the preamble to ensure domestic tranquility . Now if Mayor Beetlejuice refuses to take on that responsibility or is unable to do so then the Federal Government MUST act. If I was a shop owner on Chi-town's Magnificent Mile and was not getting adequate protection I would have no choice but to defend myself and property in the best manner I could . But I could also make a compelling case that the City was negligent in protecting my basic rights . I would also be looking to relocate my business out of that hell hole .

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There has been a long history of gangs and drugs and drug turf wars in Chitown, and the feds have had a presence with working with cops making busts for all those years. The problem with Chicago is the guns though banned in the city, a 5/30 minute drive gets you a gun easy peasy. They lock 'em up and make bail that day and the ones that get time are just as easily and rapidly replaced. You can make a million ton drug bust and not even slow the dope trade down. They've been doing it for years both state and local, and the feds.

Now the criminals downtown is a whole 'nuther animal. It was apparently triggered by a shooting on the south side and escalated by criminal opportunists. Many arrested.

last time a Dem chose a women VP candidate he lost 49 of 50 states. Mondale only won his home state and the Capitol District of Columbia
;and only because Reagan decided to not campaign there .

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lol She doesn't exactly help . She was lucky to muster 2% of the primary vote. And she comes from California ,a state Quid already has locked up . One is from one coast and one from the other . There is a lot of America in between. If I were him I would've gone with Klobuchar or even better ,Duckworth . Woman check ; Midwest check ,disabled American check , decorated Purple Heart veteran check . I've been on Twitter and the hard left is in meltdown . The Bernie /Warren faction feels left out . And at a time when the left if rioting all over the country in an effort to eliminate policing ,he picked a top cop .

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ah decisions, decisions quid knew no matter what decision he made he would be crucified for it, that is the nature of choosing a woman

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Women are the majority in America and black women the foundation of the dem party.

Coming to a Democrat controlled city near you ...... NY Slimes headline today “Retail Chains Abandon Manhattan: ‘It’s Unsustainable’ Some national chains, both retail and restaurants, are closing outlets in New York City”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/n...in-stores.html

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Coming to a Democrat controlled city near you ...... NY Slimes headline today “Retail Chains Abandon Manhattan: ‘It’s Unsustainable’ Some national chains, both retail and restaurants, are closing outlets in New York City”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/n...in-stores.html

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Amazon rules supreme! Malls in Chicagoland are being turned into condos and homeless shelters or being repurposed in some way.

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Screw the hard left, and right! Biden Harris are a very formidable team, and the dufus knows it.


Women are the majority in America and black women the foundation of the dem party.

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They might be the majority but they only know how to talk, It might have escaped your notice but blacks are a minority so even if you get the majority of the black vote there are more against you than for you

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They might be the majority but they only know how to talk, It might have escaped your notice but blacks are a minority so even if you get the majority of the black vote there are more against you than for you

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Even Republican women have stopped drinking the kool-aid. And women of color are weeping with joy. And tRump is outdoing himself being a ...umm ... you-know-what.

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Even Republican women have stopped drinking the kool-aid. And women of color are weeping with joy. And tRump is outdoing himself being a ...umm ... you-know-what.

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Mr Drumpf is doing what he always did, he doesn't know any other way, but it doesn't matter what coloured women do, they represent a small part of the electorate. You do realise that demonrat support is only in the majority in a small number of highly populated areas but voting doesn't just work on numbers, Congregate as much as you want in those places, it won't get you the presidency but what might get you the result is a small turnout

I think Trump will use the silent majority strategery . Most of America does not like seeing all the 'peaceful protesting ' going on . The Dem leadership looks impotent against the mob and us hayseed yahoos in flyover America ,who don't live off of the interstate exits , don't want that coming to our town .
If Quid and Harris really wants to know what is happening in America they need to get off their private jets ,drive around the country on roads that don't start with the letter 'I' and find out what the REAL concerns of Americans are . But that won't happen . Quid thinks he has the cred because a half century ago he lived in the Pittsburgh area . Harris talked about character yesterday ignoring the obvious contradiction that her rise to the top was enhanced by being 'the other woman' . Besides stepping into an empty school auditorium yesterday ,I bet she rarely ever ventures far from California or DC .When she does ,she jets in and rides the interstate to her brief photo op destination.

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I think Trump will use the silent majority strategery . Most of America does not like seeing all the 'peaceful protesting ' going on . The Dem leadership looks impotent against the mob and us hayseed yahoos in flyover America ,who don't live off of the interstate exits , don't want that coming to our town .
If Quid and Harris really wants to know what is happening in America they need to get off their private jets ,drive around the country on roads that don't start with the letter 'I' and find out what the REAL concerns of Americans are . But that won't happen . Quid thinks he has the cred because a half century ago he lived in the Pittsburgh area . Harris talked about character yesterday ignoring the obvious contradiction that her rise to the top was enhanced by being 'the other woman' . Besides stepping into an empty school auditorium yesterday ,I bet she rarely ever ventures far from California or DC .When she does ,she jets in and rides the interstate to her brief photo op destination.

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Too late, tom, that BS won't work this time like it did in 2016. You and your Repub/Fascist cronies are going down in 2020 - bigly.

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Coming to a Democrat controlled city near you ...... NY Slimes headline today “Retail Chains Abandon Manhattan: ‘It’s Unsustainable’ Some national chains, both retail and restaurants, are closing outlets in New York City”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/n...in-stores.html

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The brick and mortar guys have been declining for years Tom, so add covid to the mix, what do you expect? You poor conservative market capitalists want to ignore reality, but unless you deal with the virus, you have no market solution. Wall Street would have collapsed months ago if the feds hadn't bailed them out with a 5 trillion dollar bail out early on in the crisis. You won't get around a main street bailout either, and look longer term than a few months. LOL, it won't be just in dem controlled cities either, a lie repubs embrace as an excuse to stall dealing with covid raging through the population.

Covid is the economy destroying issue to deal with, and repub policy makes it worse. Keep blaming the dems if you want, but that won't solve the problem.

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Repubs and dems are evenly split and high black turnout bodes well for the dems. Especially to Tom's assertion about the protesting helping the repubs in rural areas, I can predict they will vote their pocket books which are rather empty about now.

no .....retail is fleeing NY because the Dems are driving them out . At least il duce understands that the city needs business and rich people . Sandinista Bill says if the rich come back to the city then he will tax them because the city's health doesn't depend on the rich people's money . Good luck with that .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNNP...5jRxV2-MhhS8K0

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Once this place was hummingAnd the air was full of drumming
The sound of cymbals crashing
Glasses were all smashing
Trumpets were all screaming
Saxophones were blaring
Nobody was caring if it's day or night
Whoa, oh, whoa, oh
I'm a ghost
Living in a ghost town
I'm going nowhere
Shut up all alone
So much time to lose

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>SIGH< You want conservative governess, move to a conservative repub state/city. Or find a nice rural area full of conservatives. Texas is where you ought to be and watch conservatives deal with this virus and lack of federal support and leadership. What are you waiting for?

You can't all live in Taxas, besides Tal I thought you were more a California type

It's a huge state Clete, plenty of room for Tom, but I'm originally from the Midwest. Wish I was a California dreamer.

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Waiting for il duce to lift his unconstitutional intra-state travel ban . No not Texas ;probably South Carolina ....and it will be in months not years . Circumstances prevented me from retiring this month ,

Tom, for you everything is unconstitutional not even protection of the population escapes your icy blast however it can be a self inflicted wound

https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.8ShyT...5&pid=3.1&rm=2

I don't blame Tom, or others for that matter, for ignoring an emergency crisis of GLOBAL proportions, as they seem so distracted by their own personal concerns, and the fear of what it takes to actually deal with it. Just the reality of the real costs of helping those that have been bad mouthed for generations get through this crisis is mind boggling, when you figure the cream of the economy was being sucked up greedily by the big bucks crowd in the first place, which set us up for deficits and debts when we need more money than we are willing to let go of.

That's the cost of electing and letting a fake leader run buck wild and say and do as he pleases and NOTHING is done about it. I guess we deserve the chaos we get, and it must be okay to be shoulder deep in the dufus arse, but sad that the ones just up to their ears fail to see they are surrounded by just as much crap as the ones all in.

don't worry tal there is enough crap to go around. Think seriously about the consequences of any person you elect, there is no way out in a covid ridden world

Stupid humans! All of them are some crap creating machines!

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yes we all know about the crapper in chief but the time for stupidity is over. Surely the country cannot afford the risks of crowded polling stations and public health and innovation should take precidence over outmoded ideas. This is the twenty first century a device is in the hands of everyone capable of identifying that person, location, etc therefore why not electronic voting

The democrats launch the first ever virtual convention this week to officially nominate Joe Biden as their candidate, and announce the party platform. Should be a rather interesting kick off to the virus affected election season for the couch potatoes as regular TV programming with be greatly modified.

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The technology safety factor is not there yet. Paper ballots are enormously easier to trace and verify.

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The technology safety factor is not there yet. Paper ballots are enormously easier to trace and verify.

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We have technology that can place you anywhere you go it is not difficult to modify that

If I can track a package then why can't they track a ballot? Wall Street moves trillions of bucks and have they lost a dollar? I don't think so. The rich and greedy have a safe secure system why don't states?

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The difficulty is in preventing cyber interference. That's already been definitely identified as happening now.

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Not only is the dufus not using the tools of technology available, but he is telling us the Russian interference is a hoax, and people believe that crap. He certainly isn't listening to his experts and sounding the alarm about his buddy Vlad or what he is getting away with.

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Not only is the dufus not using the tools of technology available, but he is telling us the Russian interference is a hoax, and people believe that crap. He certainly isn't listening to his experts and sounding the alarm about his buddy Vlad or what he is getting away with.

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Let's face it tal the Russians couldn't make a worse job of it than you have yourselves