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  • Jul 7, 2020, 02:31 AM
    Athos
    Trump Revealed Without His Makeup
    (I deleted the image - Snopes determined the picture was photoshopped)



    Trump has a health issue everyone gets if they’re lucky, but it’s also invariably fatal: old age. JFK never had that problem, but it is true that both JFK and DJT tried to cover up their health issues. But the sources of their health issue didn’t overlap at all, so neither did the remedies.

    In Trump’s case, he’s tried to avoid looking his age. He dyes his hair and goes to elaborate lengths to conceal his bald spot. He wears Soviet-era oversized suits and absurdly long ties to conceal his paunch. He wears oversized pads in the shoulders of those suits to conceal his pear-shaped body.

    He wears lifts in his shoes to make him look more imposing, even though he’s at least 6 feet tall without “assistance.” He sprays on tan to look younger, though the white rings around his eyes make him look like an orange raccoon.

    Overall the attempt is to make him look like a fit, virile ex-linebacker in his late 40s instead of an obese old man.
    Sad.

    Yet it works on at least 40% of the voters.

    (anon)
  • Jul 7, 2020, 03:30 AM
    talaniman
    No wonder he is up all night tweeting! He has to take off yesterdays make up, and apply a fresh coat everyday.
  • Jul 7, 2020, 11:09 AM
    tomder55
    there was another President who is revered by the left and has a huge monument park in the national mall who his his physical issues with a big hat tip to the compliant press.
    There is even another one who's wife had to run the country at the end of his term because he hid from the nation the fact that he had multiple strokes .
  • Jul 7, 2020, 11:48 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    there was another President who is revered by the left and has a huge monument park in the national mall who his his physical issues with a big hat tip to the compliant press.
    There is even another one who's wife had to run the country at the end of his term because he hid from the nation the fact that he had multiple strokes .

    Your point?
  • Jul 7, 2020, 01:19 PM
    tomder55
    What's your point ? That Trump has a vanity problem ? So what ? JFK was a walking wreck and he hid it and tried to portray himself as a man of vigor (“vigah,”). That was pure vanity on his part portraying a fiction .

    Had the nation known his health problems it is likely he would not have become President .He had Addison’s disease for which he was regularly administered steroids .He suffered from ulcers and colitis. He had chronic back issues .Many of the treatments doctors gave Kennedy did far more harm than good. Kennedy was taking an extraordinary variety of medications: steroids ,painkillers for his back; anti-spasmodics for colitis; antibiotics for urinary-tract infections; antihistamines for allergies; and, on at least one occasion, an anti-psychotic. We were never told even though today ,many of those treatments would make us question his ability to competently do his job.

    He was under the care of an allergist, an endocrinologist, a gastroenterologist, an orthopedist, and a urologist, along with that of Janet Travell ,his personal physician , Admiral George Burkley, and Max Jacobson,( called “Dr. Feelgood” by his patients ) was an emigre doctor from Germany who made a reputation by treating celebrities with “pep pills".

    Ironically it was indeed his poor health that killed him . On November 22, 1963, Kennedy was wearing a corset like back brace as he rode through Dallas. Oswald’s first bullet struck him in the back of the neck. The back brace, held him erect The second, fatal shot to the head might not have found its mark if he were not being held up by the brace.
  • Jul 7, 2020, 01:35 PM
    talaniman
    We should be grateful the dufus doesn't hide any of his short comings and seems to take pride in displaying them for all to see. The dufus lies like a rug.
  • Jul 7, 2020, 05:06 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    What's your point ? That Trump has ................................. by treating celebrities with “pep pills".

    I still don't get your point.

    Quote:

    Ironically it was indeed his poor health that killed him . On November 22, 1963, Kennedy was wearing a corset like back brace as he rode through Dallas. Oswald’s first bullet struck him in the back of the neck. The back brace, held him erect The second, fatal shot to the head might not have found its mark if he were not being held up by the brace.
    From the dufus spray-painting his face to orange to the Kennedy assassination - wow, talk about a stretch!
  • Jul 8, 2020, 05:06 AM
    talaniman
    Tom overthinks things sometimes Athos. Most conservatives do.
  • Jul 8, 2020, 05:59 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Tom overthinks things sometimes Athos. Most conservatives do.

    While liberals dont think at all they just feel
  • Jul 8, 2020, 07:36 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    While liberals dont think at all they just feel

    Bad for conservatives!
  • Jul 8, 2020, 11:53 PM
    paraclete
    Not at all we are not touchy feely we can see disadvantage and not skurm and want to solve it
  • Jul 9, 2020, 12:22 PM
    talaniman
    What have you solved so far? Just curious.
  • Jul 9, 2020, 09:14 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    What have you solved so far? Just curious.

    We do things a bit at a time so everyone is entitled to support, health care. Not saying we solved it just we are working on it without the hooha
  • Jul 10, 2020, 04:50 AM
    talaniman
    Americans can be rather rowdy in their opinions, and we have a lot of people and a lot of opinions. We're still arguing over entitlements and support and health care though, with much hooha.
  • Jul 10, 2020, 03:54 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Americans can be rather rowdy in their opinions, and we have a lot of people and a lot of opinions. We're still arguing over entitlements and support and health care though, with much hooha.

    What it seems is you are much talk and little action but these are problems you cannot talk your way out of
  • Jul 10, 2020, 07:06 PM
    talaniman
    The Civil War has been over for a long time but the war of ideas rages on.
  • Jul 11, 2020, 04:10 AM
    tomder55
    we have been in the prelude to a civil war for some time . It starts long before the shooting starts . The church of woke has the upper hand at the moment because the rest of the people are afraid to speak out lest they offend .

    If you are looking for a comparison to the American Civil war we are at this point currently
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    https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374154776


    https://www.westholmepublishing.com/...stephen-puleo/

    This is a lithograph depicting U.S. Rep. Preston Brooks' attack on Sen. Charles Sumner in the U.S. Senate on May 22, 1856. We are not in civil war yet . The constitution hangs together by a tattered thread . But constitutional order still exists . A civil war happens when constitutional order no longer exists and the competing sides claim they have the legitimacy to form a new constitution. There becomes no more room for compromise . Whatever new order emerges .both sides must submit to willingly or unwillingly . Force determines the winner .As long as things can be resolved within the framework of the old constitution ie elections ,then it is not yet a civil war. The election of 1860 told the South that their way of life was going to be taken away. The North for their part would not accept the nationalization of slavery that would've been the defacto reality that came from the Dred Scott Decision (another great ruling by the putz's in SCOTUS) .

    Since 1992 the two party system has been on a fast tract to destruction . Gone are the days of compromise . With each succeeding administration, the political climate has grown more rancorous and divided. There is no relationship between parties now .The only thing they agree on is that they are sworn enemies and the agenda of each is to beat the other's agenda.

    That was the America in the1850s . Dredd Scott (thanks again to SCOTUS )nullified the Missouri Compromise . Kansas -Nebraska Act went into law which effectively guaranteed the territories introduction into the Union as free or slave states would be decided at the point of the sword. It should've been no surprise that Bloody Kansas would become national .
  • Jul 11, 2020, 05:46 AM
    paraclete
    Just because you had a civil war in the nineteenth century doesn't mean you have to have one in the twenty-first unless of course you are unwilling to modify your eighteenth century thinking
  • Jul 11, 2020, 01:55 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Just because you had a civil war in the nineteenth century doesn't mean you have to have one in the twenty-first unless of course you are unwilling to modify your eighteenth century thinking
    What is so great about 20th and 21st century thinking ? Millions dead by totalitarians and millions more by progressive thinking that doesn t value human life .Now we have Maoist and Trotskyites marauding in the streets trying like Taliban and ISIS to destroy our history and their intellectual movement to destroy independent thought . You can have it .
  • Jul 11, 2020, 04:23 PM
    talaniman
    What's so great about conservative thinking that follows the rich guys superiority in economic and social justice and assigns the values that keep them rich and superior? That centuries old thinking has always kept power and wealth in their own hands that they dole out as they please.
  • Jul 11, 2020, 08:10 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    What is so great about 20th and 21st century thinking ? Millions dead by totalitarians and millions more by progressive thinking that doesn t value human life .Now we have Maoist and Trotskyites marauding in the streets trying like Taliban and ISIS to destroy our history and their intellectual movement to destroy independent thought . You can have it .

    What makes you think it was different in the eighteenth century, they had great wars, numbers only limited by population, and millions subjected and enslaved. We have progressed in one thing, slavery is no longer in favour, but the disrespect for human life remains. the elite still rule and crush, it is time those values so highly prized changes to something more benign and encompassing. The Taliban and ISIS are a fundamentalist backlash against the tyranny of the elites so typified by that eighteenth century though you value so highly
  • Jul 12, 2020, 03:44 AM
    tomder55
    The 18th century gave us the age of enlightenment .Of that was born the greatest experiment in self rule ,the United States . That is what the ANTIFAs of the planet are trying to destroy ,reason and debate in favor of Orwellian group think .
  • Jul 12, 2020, 04:51 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The 18th century gave us the age of enlightenment .Of that was born the greatest experiment in self rule ,the United States . That is what the ANTIFAs of the planet are trying to destroy ,reason and debate in favor of Orwellian group think .

    Enlightenment? Or the Devil in disguise?



    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcktkzSX...g&name=900x900
  • Jul 12, 2020, 06:02 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The 18th century gave us the age of enlightenment .Of that was born the greatest experiment in self rule ,the United States . That is what the ANTIFAs of the planet are trying to destroy ,reason and debate in favor of Orwellian group think .

    You don't need them to destroy it, you are doing it yourselves
  • Jul 12, 2020, 07:46 AM
    talaniman
    The great American experiment has hit a great stone wall for the moment. It happens in most societies.
  • Jul 12, 2020, 02:43 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The great American experiment has hit a great stone wall for the moment. It happens in most societies.


    Yes it seems empires and civilisations have a finite life
  • Jul 13, 2020, 04:38 AM
    talaniman
    Some for thousands of years.
  • Jul 13, 2020, 07:07 AM
    paraclete
    Not really
  • Jul 13, 2020, 10:58 AM
    talaniman
    Sure really. The thing is will your country, or mine last that long? Everybody around us has.
  • Jul 13, 2020, 04:21 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Sure really. The thing is will your country, or mine last that long? Everybody around us has.

    My country has been inhabited for 60,000 years so it can be done without civilisation and empire
  • Jul 13, 2020, 05:09 PM
    talaniman
    And you guys came along and screwed it up for the natives while making it for your own purpose. America may be as old as 90,000 years or more, just to one up you.
  • Jul 13, 2020, 05:15 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    And you guys came along and screwed it up for the natives while making it for your own purpose. America may be as old as 90,000 years or more, just to one up you.

    Nah your indigenous came across the land bridge after the last ice age. let's face it none of us know how long humans have inhabited this world but we do know large tracts were uninhabitable for eons. Primitive societies existed. Don't talk about us screwing it up for the natives without including yourself in that. Your intrusion into that continent was just as much a disaster as ours was here
  • Jul 13, 2020, 05:22 PM
    talaniman
    I can agree with that. I just thought you were being a bit snotty is all.
  • Jul 13, 2020, 07:36 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I can agree with that. I just thought you were being a bit snotty is all.

    we didn't conduct wars with the indigenous inhabitants, no need for that, many died of disease and there weren't that many anyway. their culture was based on sharing so they had no concept of land ownership, that is a concept they acquired from us. conflict centred around taking of domestic livestock
  • Jul 14, 2020, 04:35 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    we didn't conduct wars with the indigenous inhabitants, no need for that, many died of disease and there weren't that many anyway.

    They were no threat, but helpless as any indigenous people to diseases brought by invaders. They couldn't stop you from coming anymore than our indigenous could stop the Euros.

    Quote:

    their culture was based on sharing so they had no concept of land ownership, that is a concept they acquired from us. conflict centred around taking of domestic livestock
    Dress it up but same thing as I said before, you came over and took over like we did. Less bloody but same results. We did have more Natives to contend with and they did try to fight the Euros off.
  • Jul 14, 2020, 05:53 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    They were no threat, but helpless as any indigenous people to diseases brought by invaders. They couldn't stop you from coming anymore than our indigenous could stop the Euros.


    Dress it up but same thing as I said before, you came over and took over like we did. Less bloody but same results. We did have more Natives to contend with and they did try to fight the Euros off.

    Yes ours did fight too, in pockets, but they were few, just family groups really and they didn't realise the threat, didn't understand the British would just keep coming, just as they did in the americas. Your legacy and ours has the same rootes, but the two nations have a very different ethos
  • Jul 14, 2020, 06:42 AM
    talaniman
    Of course we have a different ethos because you are much more white Euro dominated and we are becoming less. DUH!
  • Jul 14, 2020, 03:21 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Of course we have a different ethos because you are much more white Euro dominated and we are becoming less. DUH!

    We are the most diverse population on Earth, as the song line says "from all the lands on earth we come" and that is represented among our politicians but we haven't gone down the road of rabid capitalism as you have

    The difference is most of us came here by our own free will, none of us were stolen away and forced to labour under the lash
  • Jul 14, 2020, 03:37 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    The difference is most of us came here by our own free will, none of us were stolen away and forced to labour under the lash

    What about the British and Irish convicts who were taken to Australia?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia
  • Jul 14, 2020, 03:37 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    We are the most diverse population on Earth, as the song line says "from all the lands on earth we come" and that is represented among our politicians but we haven't gone down the road of rabid capitalism as you have

    The difference is most of us came here by our own free will, none of us were stolen away and forced to labour under the lash

    I see you have your own homebrewed snake oil of which you have generously partaken of Clete. That's cool.

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