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Covid-19 Super Spreader - Donald Trump

Trump has been labeled the chief spreader of the virus as he goes from hot spot to hot spot without a mask and recommending others to also go without masks and ignore social distancing.

This is NOT hyperbole. According to many and varied medical professionals (including those in his own WH Administration), Trump is the main individual ON THE PLANET spreading Covid-19. Trump gathers thousands in close proximity in a dangerous attempt to seek re-election. Threatening lives in the attempt fazes Trump not in the least. Other world leaders are acting according to safe guidelines.

Biden remains off the grid holding only limited pressers and on-line videos from his basement. The American people recognize the difference and now have Biden up by double digits in the polls. November can't come too soon.

The death count due to Trump's behavior and his original inaction is staggering. The final count may well be over 100,000 directly and indirectly attributed to Trump.

Our covid19 response and situation is so bad the rest of the world may BAN any Americans from entering their country. We got no where to run, no where to hide! The dufus gets tested every day, but testing his fellow citizens makes him look bad, and a waste of time.

Shoulder deep up the dufus butt ain't even safe. 8D

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Our covid19 response and situation is so bad the rest of the world may BAN any Americans from entering their country. We got no where to run, no where to hide! The dufus gets tested every day, but testing his fellow citizens makes him look bad, and a waste of time.

Shoulder deep up the dufus butt ain't even safe. 8D

yes you should definitely be banned, we are even banning people from our own states and covid hotspots, the message is stay away. International travel is off for the foreseeable future, Europe is considering banning americans. Trump is an unhealthy individual and he is spreading the problem. The master ego is a health hazard

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Trump is an unhealthy individual and he is spreading the problem.

He is certainly not spreading the virus personally. He'd have to have the disease in order to do that.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

He is certainly not spreading the virus personally. He'd have to have the disease in order to do that.

he is holding mass rallies, he has no respect for his constituency. he doesn't need the rallies, he has a weak opponent for the presidency and no opponent for the nomination

The dufus gets tested regularly (As he tells YOU that you don't need it!) so he may not be spreading the virus personally, but he sure makes it possible to be spread amongst everybody else as more of his staffers and even the secret service have been catching this virus. Even repub governors are taken aback by his campaign visits as their states are being ravaged so bad that reopening is slowing and on being paused because of corona19. You can't ignore what's happening in the south and southwest. It's no wonder the dufus is telling everyone else how bad testing is, and makes no efforts to encourage even more testing, tracing to identify and isolate the sick.

He is working hard to take health care from poor people amid a pandemic, as mitigation programs for states, and citizens runs out of money at the end of the month. How sick do we have to get before we boot this snake oil salesman from his perch?

not to put a finer point on it but maybe a million deaths or half the population sick. I don't understand the infection rate in the US, a society which has modern health systems, modern living standards, there has to be another reason, maybe it is genetic afterall you have large populations of the races that saw high infection rates in Europe. I observe we are seeing a second wave here among such migrant populations where the people exhibit resistance to measures implemented in other places. Or maybe the hipe has been uncovered and things were never as great as the rest of us were led to believe.

Our society is equivalent to yours in many respects and yet our infection rates are low and death rate very low and testing doesn't uncover many cases

LOL Clete, stop comparing us. You nor Europe or anywhere else has a dufus running around without a mask hollering it's all a hoax. If even a small part of our country follows his example, and they do, then we are in for a rocky ride as reality sets in.

Easy to ignore the virus if you haven't been infected or affected, but people ain't got no money either so easy to be scared stiff and in a panic. That just makes reality worse and in truth we are just getting started in some places.

Whatever the case something over here just ain't working very well. Taking health care away from 20 million people during a pandemic sound reasonable to you?

I notice you all rather neatly left out the many dem mayors and govs who have allowed these protests to go on by the hundreds with multiple thousands of people in close proximity and no masks. They are doing far more damage than some isolated campaign events where people are being screened before being allowed to enter.

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he has a weak opponent

Biden is a pitiful nominee, but he does lead significantly in the polls so Trump has to go to his strength.

Must be a big reason for risking sickness other than running for re election. Besides lying cheating and being a bully what are the dufus strengths? Badmouthing people you don't like?

Replaying his greatest hits ain't gonna work this year. This surely won't help him.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...heim-ntp-feeds

His NEICE?

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Must be a big reason for risking sickness other than running for re election. Besides lying cheating and being a bully what are the dufus strengths? Badmouthing people you don't like?

But you couldn't care less about the far, far greater exposure given to multiple thousands of unscreened, unmasked, protestors? Hmmm. Sure sound political to me.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

But you couldn't care less about the far, far greater exposure given to multiple thousands of unscreened, unmasked, protestors? Hmmm. Sure sound political to me.

Look at the photos and videos of peaceful protesters. Most wear masks.

Trump's rally goers mostly did not. Nor did he. He's worn a mask only once.

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Look at the photos and videos of peaceful protesters. Most wear masks.

I've seen many of those photos. Many do not wear masks, social distancing is not practices, and they are certainly not screened.

You can't wear a mask and make a speech. Besides, when he is on a platform fifty feet from a crowd, it would be pointless. Now he could hide in his basement like Biden. That would be possible.

You call a temp check screening? I get protestors representing all kinds of health risks too, but I also get speaking out about cops murdering citizens is a risk they choose to take. You don't care about those rogue cops doing the wrong thing that results in death, nor do you care about the cops covering it up. Naw you care about criminals doing criminal stuff, MOSTLY black, in your estimation, caused by out of wedlock kids, while ignoring the other factors of poverty, poor education, and lousy low wage jobs. See I've been listening to you rant on and on!

You ain't listening though about for now get them rogue cops and the people that aid and abet them out of my neighborhood. Do that, we can talk. Until then, forget the talking.

UNDERSTAND? can't get any simpler than that.

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You call a temp check screening?

Yes, and so does everyone else who has the slightest bit of knowledge about this. We can't walk into even a dentist's office without being screened by having our temp taken.

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I get protestors representing all kinds of health risks too, but I also get speaking out about cops murdering citizens is a risk they choose to take.

And going to a Trump rally is a risk those people choose to take.

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You don't care about those rogue cops doing the wrong thing that results in death, nor do you care about the cops covering it up.

Completely ignorant statement.

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Naw you care about criminals doing criminal stuff, MOSTLY black, in your estimation, caused by out of wedlock kids, while ignoring the other factors of poverty, poor education, and lousy low wage jobs. See I've been listening to you rant on and on!

Never said criminals were mostly black so that's YOUR invention. Millions of people are in poverty with a poor education and a low-wage job, but they don't go out and shoot a five year old kid in a drive-by shooting.

Education? I'm the one (NOT YOU) who brought it up here.

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Biden remains off the grid holding only limited pressers and on-line videos from his basement.

that's because they keep him in hermetic seal in his basement unless they have a controlled event in Philly where they want him to appear or in a virtual town hall where they can control the pablum coming out of his mouth like puppet masters .

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...2C_2007%29.jpg

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Originally Posted by tomder55

that's because they keep him in hermetic seal in his basement unless they have a controlled event in Philly where they want him to appear or in a virtual town hall where they can control the pablum coming out of his mouth like puppet masters .

Thanks for the incentive! Another $50 just went from my pocket into Biden's war chest.

you have almost caught up to the Biden's annual charitable contributions.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5791846&page=1

Fascinating remark about the 120 million Covid cases. Man's right on top of things.

I suppose they have to check something, since there are no other ways to screen people without a test. Think of all those people who have NO temperature that walk around and could spread the virus. We have learned a lot since this started, except how to stop it, or treat it effectively.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/oth...heim-ntp-feeds

And

https://apnews.com/778da4a2da7e5d9d12e6105c012b8cf9

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Another $50 just went from my pocket into Biden's war chest.

Says the supposed republican.

Tal, it is a widespread practice to screen people for temps. You can fuss about it all you want to, but it just makes you look silly. Try going into a doctor's office and see if you don't get checked for fever. It's cheap and easy to do, so it makes good sense. It doesn't catch every case, but neither does the covid test. So should we just stop testing???

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Says the supposed republican.

This Republican votes for the person, not the party. Or I could vote for the man who said this yesterday:

"One of the things that will be really great — you know, the word 'experience' is still good," Trump said. "I always say talent is more important than experience. I've always said that.
"But the word 'experience' is a very important word," he added. "It's a very important meaning.
"I never did this before. I never slept over in Washington. I was in Washington I think 17 times — all of a sudden I'm president of the United States. You know the story. I'm riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our first lady, and I say, 'This is great.'"
Trump went on to say that he didn't really know anybody in Washington politics as a Manhattan businessman.
"Now I know everybody," he said.
"And I have great people in the administration," Trump added. "You make some mistakes, like, you know, an idiot like Bolton — all he wanted to do is drop bombs on everybody. You don't have to drop bombs on everybody. You don't have to kill people."

100% of the people entering my plant get screened for temp. 100% of people in my plant wear masks . We have sanitizing stations throughout the plant . We have learned a lot since March The Canadians are doing clinical trials on a Tamiflu type drug for those who can detect early symptoms . The spike in cases is because genxers are ignoring sensible and reasonable precautions . That is not the fault of the President although I don't think he helps by giving a counter-narrative to what health care people are suggesting

If Biden is correct, it's all over anyway. 120 million Covid cases is just overwhelming.

In Tampa the broke down the spikes by zipp code and it seems apparent that a lot of the cause was the peaceful demonstrations. I have heard that contact tracers are suppressing that info . Will look for more verification .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

100% of the people entering my plant get screened for temp. 100% of people in my plant wear masks . We have sanitizing stations throughout the plant . We have learned a lot since March The Canadians are doing clinical trials on a Tamiflu type drug for those who can detect early symptoms . The spike in cases is because genxers are ignoring sensible and reasonable precautions . That is not the fault of the President although I don't think he helps by giving a counter-narrative to what health care people are suggesting

They do the same thing in hospitals too Tom, and workers get sick. Yeah, I know they're LOOKING for effective treatments and cures, and the youngsters are being youngsters. I don't think the dufus or Pence helps things at all listening to his presser on the split screen with places pausing their "reopening", worse, they might be hurting the cause with LIES!. He never mentioned anything about masks either. Yes we have learned a lot, this virus takes no prisoners and spin and high hopes ain't curing it, or stopping it.

All we can do is wear masks, wash hands and check temperatures, keep a distance, but those aren't guarantees, it's just all we can do.

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He never mentioned anything about masks either

he correctly pointed out that masks used improperly do not help .(see his interview with WSJ . Most of the press ignored that one )

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this virus takes no prisoners

there you go fear mongering . If that was the case then why has this spike not caused a spike in deaths ? The answer is obvious. Trump sorta hits on it when he jokes that more testing results in discovering more cases. Turns out that indeed many more people have contracted the disease .And as the percentage of deaths to known cases decreases to just above flu levels ;and the highest mortality rate is with a select demographic we know how to deal with it ;cure and treatment or not .

here ya go . If Sandinista Bill is telling contact tracers to not ask anyone testing positive if they took part in a demonstration then you know other tin pot dictators in this country are doing the same . He doesn't have the brains to think this up on his own

https://www.thecity.nyc/coronavirus/...rs-of-new-wave

https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/6/1/...acing-covid-19

The death rates have lagged behind the reported cases, because nobody dies instantly, but because it's a younger crowd maybe we don't get the higher death rates of before, fingers crossed. One of the things we have learned is that not everybody, young or old just bounces back to what they were before, as some have lasting effects they will suffer from for a lot longer, as my link points out. That's not fear mongering, but real stark reality.

Nothing is a guarantee you won't get it, even if you hide in the basement, and anyone could be the exception to the probabilities we are betting on now.

you won't get it if you don't associate with people who have it

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

This Republican votes for the person, not the party. Or I could vote for the man who said this yesterday:

"One of the things that will be really great — you know, the word 'experience' is still good," Trump said. "I always say talent is more important than experience. I've always said that.
"But the word 'experience' is a very important word," he added. "It's a very important meaning.
"I never did this before. I never slept over in Washington. I was in Washington I think 17 times — all of a sudden I'm president of the United States. You know the story. I'm riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our first lady, and I say, 'This is great.'"
Trump went on to say that he didn't really know anybody in Washington politics as a Manhattan businessman.
"Now I know everybody," he said.
"And I have great people in the administration," Trump added. "You make some mistakes, like, you know, an idiot like Bolton — all he wanted to do is drop bombs on everybody. You don't have to drop bombs on everybody. You don't have to kill people."

Proof positive that Trump has TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome).

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The death rates have lagged behind the reported cases,

you know what the unreported rate is ? The rate of patients with serious conditions or even dead because of critical treatment and testing delayed because of this myopic emphasis on C-19 . I can report that my friend who had a catheter FINALLY got his surgery to remove it after weeks of delay where he was treated twice in the emergency room because of serious infections that developed due to procedure delay. I expect that there will be many such cardiac or cancer patients who's delayed treatment will be critical or mortal .

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you won't get it if you don't associate with people who have it

How can you tell they all look alike?

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Originally Posted by Athos

Proof positive that Trump has TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome).

TRANSLATION-DUFUS! Dumb ugly fat uncivilized sucker!

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Originally Posted by tomder55

you know what the unreported rate is ? The rate of patients with serious conditions or even dead because of critical treatment and testing delayed because of this myopic emphasis on C-19 . I can report that my friend who had a catheter FINALLY got his surgery to remove it after weeks of delay where he was treated twice in the emergency room because of serious infections that developed due to procedure delay. I expect that there will be many such cardiac or cancer patients who's delayed treatment will be critical or mortal .

I can agree with that but normal life and business as usual are kind of hard with this virus and the effects on our great hospital system. Once covid19 patients come in that changes priorities and I'm not sure the death rates are even close Tom.

Death rates ... hard to calculate the long term damage cause by treatment delayed . Or if you want to it is easy to inflate the C-19 rate when it may have been other factors that c-19 contributed to .

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Dumb ugly fat uncivilized sucker!

You and WG sure do love that fat-shaming.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You and WG sure do love that fat-shaming.

Just the WH fat guy with the orange face.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Death rates ... hard to calculate the long term damage cause by treatment delayed . Or if you want to it is easy to inflate the C-19 rate when it may have been other factors that c-19 contributed to .

It does get complicated without the virus, but the virus plus a lot of other conditions complicates things. Been listening to a few doctors describe the process for triaging and managing patient care and sound complicated to me. Houston is full and getting fuller.

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Just the WH fat guy with the orange face.

Yep. No hatred there.

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You and WG sure do love that fat-shaming.

I was VERY specific, and no worse than shaming those women that have babies and no official husbands.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Yep. No hatred there.

No hatred. (Do you hate me when you shame me, JL?) I actually feel sorry for the WH guy.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No hatred. (Do you hate me when you shame me, JL?) I actually feel sorry for the WH guy.

I don't feel sorry for the dufus, don't hate him either...just what he says and does most of the time.