AG Barr - "SDNY Attorney Berman has resigned".

SDNY Attorney Berman - "No, I didn't!"

AG Barr - "Don't make this a public spectacle. I told Trump to fire you. Trump fired you! You're fired!"

Trump - "I didn't fire Berman" "That's Barr's job!" "I don't know anything about it"!

STUNNING! ABSURD! BEYOND RIDICULOUS! THE TOP LEVEL OF THE US GOVERNMENT ACTING IDIOTICALLY!

SDNY attorney Berman had been investigating corruption among the Trump/Barr/Giuliani cabal.



Meanwhile, back in Tulsa --- Trump rages as the crowd is less than expected. The overflow venue has such a sparse attendance, both Trump and Pence cancel their appearances there.

The "millions" trying to get tickets is exposed as another Trump falsehood.

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what is absurd about something that has become normal, trump needs a new slogan; make america normal again

Berman did resign, replaced by the #2 person at SDNY.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/geoffre...iam-barr-says/

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On Saturday, Berman said he would leave after Barr's decision to "respect the normal operation of law" by making his deputy, Audrey Strauss, the acting U.S. attorney. Barr had initially said Mr. Trump had appointed Craig Carpenito, currently the U.S. attorney for the District of New Jersey, to fill in, and that he planned to nominate Securities and Exchange Commissioner Jay Clayton for the role.

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Amusing how Barr accused Berman of making this a public spectacle while he made this a public spectacle from the beginning with a late Friday press release. More Dufus antics, both embarrassing and incompetent and rather sloppy.

Berman resigned after Barr appointed his deputy That was not the plan Friday .

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The "millions" trying to get tickets is exposed as another Trump falsehood.

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I don't think it was a falsehood . AOC and others were tweeting yesterday that he got trolled by Tik tok users who were making fake ticket requests . Funny if true . Evidently this was the idea of Mary Jo Laupp, who worked on Buttigieg’s campaign,

https://twitter.com/mrjoshz/status/1274479644083978240

https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/...rally%2F258520

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Berman did resign, replaced by the #2 person at SDNY.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/geoffre...iam-barr-says/



Amusing how Barr accused Berman of making this a public spectacle while he made this a public spectacle from the beginning with a late Friday press release. More Dufus antics, both embarrassing and incompetent and rather sloppy.

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Breaking news came in after my post. Never a dull moment with this dopey crowd.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1274486203153289221

here is a pix of Biden's recent campaign event .
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Amusing how Barr accused Berman of making this a public spectacle while he made this a public spectacle from the beginning with a late Friday press release. More Dufus antics, both embarrassing and incompetent and rather sloppy.

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Berman simply did not understand the law he was quoting or intentionally misinterpreted it .

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If an appointment expires under subsection (c)(2), the district court for such district may appoint a United States attorney to serve until the vacancy is filled. The order of appointment by the court shall be filed with the clerk of the court.

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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/546

It does not say until a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate. It says an interim appointee gets to stay “until the vacancy is filled.” Berman himself was an unconfirmed appointee before he was court appointed .Vacancies are filled all the time as interim and acting.
And the statute itself may very well be unconstitutional . The Constitution makes the president the chief executive and the only government official empowered to appoint federal officers, who must be Senate confirmed. The courts have no authority to compel the President to accept a court appointed executive officer .(Meyer v United States 1926) . Once he was fired he was out and Berman was also wrong to suggest that Barr cannot act on Trump's behalf. Barr was in fact letting Berman off easy be announcing his resignation. Berman pressed the issue .So now he is fired .It was his games that caused the confusion and the "public spectacle " ;which was the intention of his whole charade in the 1st place. Barr did not want Berman fired . He offered him Chief of the Civil Division at Main Justice. Berman turned it down . Fine I get that . Being US Attn for NY Southern District is a big deal .It propels ambitious prosecutors to bigger things .If Barr wanted him out he would not have offered him a posting in DC where they would be working close together .

And let's put it this way ;the SDNY is never going to bullied by decisions in Washington no matter who is the head of the division. It is staffed with excellent attorneys who's job prospects if they were ever forced out for any reason are excellent .No one is going to tell them who or what can and can't be investigated . Cohen was charged out of that office .No one stopped the SDNY from charging Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, business associates of Giuliani. That investigation continues even as Rudy claims that he has never been contacted by prosecutors in the case . No one has accused Trump of interfering in any of their investigations And you know the second he tried it would go public with great fanfare .
So let the toad Nadler do his hearing thingy .They can add all this to their impeachment attempt round 2 .

We know for sure Barr cannot hire and fire, so what was the big deal in him carrying the dufus water? What was Barr's beef with Berman in the first place? Why was the dufus so hands off and still lay it at Barr's feet? You have some nice spin Tom, but no answers to the basic question of what was this about in the first place?

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What was Barr's beef with Berman in the first place? Why was the dufus so hands off and still lay it at Barr's feet? You have some nice spin Tom, but no answers to the basic question of what was this about in the first place?

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That's the heart of the matter from which the Trumpists are doing their usual deflection.

What types of questions are those ? I'm guessing you are thinking like the toad ;that there is some obstruction going on . That is ridiculous . As I said ,no change at the top is going to stop SDNY from investigation who and what they please . The investigations will proceed just as they did when Preet Bharara was replaced by Berman

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The investigations will proceed just as they did when Preet Bharara was replaced by Berman

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Berman may have been getting closer to areas Trump/Barr are uncomfortable with. "Proceeding" may just be a delaying tactic. Will conclusions ever be reached?

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What types of questions are those ? I'm guessing you are thinking like the toad ;that there is some obstruction going on . That is ridiculous . As I said ,no change at the top is going to stop SDNY from investigation who and what they please . The investigations will proceed just as they did when Preet Bharara was replaced by Berman

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So what's the point of replacing Berman in the first place except for Barr to be able to run and control things as he did at the DC office, and the DOJ, and protect the dufus?

got me why did the emperor fire 93 district attorneys ? Because he wanted his people to populate the post . They could've gotten rid of him without appointing Audrey Strauss to replace him . Barr wanted Craig Carpenito, as the temporary replacement. So replacing him with Strauss was quite a generous concession. I would've fired him and given him a hour to get out or I would've sent in Federal Marshalls to escort him out . His showboat power play was all theatrics .

Well I suppose out showboating the dufus and Barr could be reason enough to get fired, but I doubt anyone outside NY would know that, but a hearing can't hurt anything can it? We know the right wing noise machine will spin itself dizzy, so CSpan will certainly give us a chance to see it for ourselves.

That's the way I like it. Heck anything the dufus says and does should be verified. Throw bully Bolton in that mix too!

they have to get someone besides to toad to chair these hearings .

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You know Trump said something very significant, he said less testing means less cases, apply the same thinking to China and it means do nothing and they will back off, same thinking applied to Russia. In other words, all problems can be solved by sitting back and watching. It worked in Syria, the problem has gone away by ignoring it and in Trumps mind the virus will just vanish if ignored. i wonder if we ignore him, will he go away?

In his own words; "don't you understand, you dumb SOB, don't you understand" I would say NO! he doesn't understand

He said he was joking, and his sycophants said it was a tongue -n-cheek comment at his rally, but he has said it before, often enough to not be taken as a joke but a con game to further his self interest which is get re elected. No Clete I don't think he goes away by ignoring him. We can VOTE him and his sycophants out. Then we can make America better.

Joking? HA, Ha, Ha, Ha the man is one big joke

The rates of death from covid19 seem to be going down as the number of cases increases and that's good, but hospitalizations are rising, and threatening to overwhelm hospital capacities as it did in NY metro area including surrounding states. While attention and resources were on the northeast though, things are rising in the southwest.

In Texas which is in the midst of reopening, some places may have to close again and regroup, as customers and workers have fallen sick and must be quarantined, and that's the crux of the problem, you can't work while sick, and that stupid temperature test is proving useless. Only the most obvious people have high temps and we find to many positives for corona cases with no such symptoms at all, let alone a fever. So while understandable the economic impact of this virus, ignoring it is more expensive and detrimental than doing what it takes to deal with it.

Such shortsighted panic over the economic fallout has already sucked trillions and that may be the beginning of trillions more needing to be committed, as states get their budgets blown way out of the water. I think despite the time already spent, its still the beginning of this virus and it's effects becoming apparent.

The dufus's words actions and behavior in response to this pandemic is absurd idiotic and incompetent, but the worst part is he is not alone.

Did my research on Audrey Strauss . From all accounts she doesn't let politics influence her work ;which would be a good thing for Trump.

Why ?

Well for one she is a registered Democrat . But besides that ,her son is a former Press Secretary for il Duce Cuomo ..... and his wife is a Sr , aid the Cuomo.

We know so much more about it than we did in March . We know who is among the highest risk . We know it gets transmitted through aerosol ;mostly indoors . Protocols have been established for the safe opening of businesses .There is no more excuses to keep the economy shut down.AND we absolutely need the economy up and running to pay for all these give-a-ways that have been and will be created for the gimmee society .

I agree people are acting irresponsibly and that is contributing to the increase in cases . It is a shame that wearing a mask or not has become a political issue . It is even more silly than the various treatment options have become political . I for one would be content wearing masks in public for now on and I probably will. Having c-19 and the potential of a cytokine storm is not a pleasant experience ;one I do not wish to repeat .

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Did my research on Audrey Strauss . From all accounts she doesn't let politics influence her work ;which would be a good thing for Trump.

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Well for one she is a registered Democrat . But besides that ,her son is a former Press Secretary for il Duce Cuomo ..... and his wife is a Sr , aid the Cuomo.

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Appreciate the homework Tom, a bit of nepotism huh? Not that surprised, given the long history of it on so many levels. I'm thinking the Berman firing was Bully boy Barr's flexing his muscles, as much as any connection to the cases and investigations as obviously Barr was not being updated as he thinks he should have been and wanted a more pliant loyalist in place. That he conceded to Berman wish and accepted Strauss as a replacement may indicate he was unwilling for a drawn out media fight over it. Or the dufus wasn't.

Either way we may get Berman, a supporter, contributor, and transition team member's side of it soon, hopefully, to put meat on the bones of this rather bizarre move by Barr. The replacement dude has never prosecuted a case, nor brought one is his tenure with the SEC. That makes him a strange pick unless this was a purge of people seen as not loyal enough.

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We know so much more about it than we did in March . We know who is among the highest risk . We know it gets transmitted through aerosol ;mostly indoors . Protocols have been established for the safe opening of businesses .There is no more excuses to keep the economy shut down.AND we absolutely need the economy up and running to pay for all these give-a-ways that have been and will be created for the gimmee society .

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NY has been steadily and relentlessly and RESPONSIBLY moving toward reopening, but let's be real because others have not done as good a job and have reopened without the desired protocols nor the adherence to them. I recognize the need to reopen, but look around the country and ask yourself if EVERYBODY is as ready as NY, and haven't done the work to be.

I won't comment at this time about your last few sentences, familiar conservative/right wing talking points that excludes the gimme rich guy "job creators" and their zeal for tax cuts and cheap labor, even without a pandemic, but we have been exposed to the social structures needed to accommodate affected workers, and the unemployed, as our social services is overwhelmed by those that can't work from home nor can't work through no fault of their own. They also seem to bear the brunt of the illness with no assistance whatsoever so far.

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I agree people are acting irresponsibly and that is contributing to the increase in cases . It is a shame that wearing a mask or not has become a political issue . It is even more silly than the various treatment options have become political . I for one would be content wearing masks in public for now on and I probably will. Having c-19 and the potential of a cytokine storm is not a pleasant experience ;one I do not wish to repeat .

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Ain't no probably for me as in a span of a week all the masks wearing disappeared here, except for the workers. That's scary for an older fella as myself with a few health issues already. Rates of death are down, but rates of infections are at a record level as well as rising hospitalization. So kudos to NY, but Texans ain't there yet (Seems a lot of other places ain't either!) though who cares...ready or not...open we are!

Here is another absurdity in the world of Donald Trump, Kayne West has announced a bid for President. So now another big ego will be opposing the Donald, how absurd is this?

It would've taken votes from quid pro Joe except for the fact that it is way too late for him to get his name on the ballots of any state .

btw ;what does the compliant press call it when white Trump criticizes white protesters taking down statues ? answer being racially divisive

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It would've taken votes from quid pro Joe except for the fact that it is way too late for him to get his name on the ballots of any state .

btw ;what does the compliant press call it when white Trump criticizes white protesters taking down statues ? answer being racially divisive

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Well I guess he will just have to run as an independent and hold his own poll

What a great publicity stunt for his next project...!

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It would've taken votes from quid pro Joe except for the fact that it is way too late for him to get his name on the ballots of any state .

btw ;what does the compliant press call it when white Trump criticizes white protesters taking down statues ? answer being racially divisive

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The dufus has been racially divisive since he started his birther meme so a criticism about white protesters doing anything gets lost in such an avalanche of lies and mistruths as to almost make it non existent.

I don't particularly care for riots, looting or mob rule, but the dufus rhetoric on race has always been deplorable, and could incite all those stupid things I'm against.

yeah yeah before he was running for President the Blacks loved him . The same thing happened to every Republican presidential candidate before him . As soon as they run they are branded as racists . Reagan had to beat back the lie . So did the 2 Bushes . So did McCain and Romney .
So be it .That is the politics and how it is played .

One minute Trump is getting awarded by Rainbow Coalition . The Reverend Jesse Jackson heaped tons of praise upon Donald Trump at his 1998 Rainbow/Push Coalition Wall Street Project Conference in New York. Trump both raised funds and contributed thousands of dollars to the Reverend Al Sharpton backed causes over the years . Both Reverends contend that Trump had changed . What was the change ? You got it . He ran for President . Now a man who has contributed to the cause for years is suddenly a life long racist.

No nothing changed .One of his first initiatives when he got into office was the one thing Dems have been paying phony lip service for years . Prison reform . It was desperately needed because Quid Pro Joe championed tough sentencing , Now who is the racist ? ....The one who initiated tough sentencing against minorities or the man who pushed through Congress the reform to end it ?

Based on his Palm Beach experience, Trump, unlike many others who never had to confront segregation, actually has a solid record on this issue.
Mar-a-Lago is located in Palm Beach .Two of Mar-a-Lago’s competitors—the Palm Beach Bath and Tennis Club and The Everglades Club notoriously refused to admit Blacks. Trump’s Mar-a-lago club, doesn’t discriminate against anyone who can afford it .In 1996, Trump filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court in Palm Beach, alleging that the town was discriminating by allowing segregationist policies in the township. He won.

Before the dufus was a president he was a mixed bag who contributed to both sides of the political spectrum depending on what his interests were, and his famous antics and court cases are numerous. He won, lost, and settled. Business as usual for most capitalists. The problem he has is his record since becoming the prez and all those people who are scared sh1tless during this economy destroying pandemic that is totally out of control.

He just said that the virus is 99% harmless and we are already finding out that's another exaggeration (RE: LIE!) to get the poor people and low wage workers to be shamed to go back to work.

Some of us have been working all along. You just proved that your preference is for people to be on government support rather than being self sufficient . Turns out our rate of infection is no different from those who are not working or do you have facts that prove differently ? At lease here in NY it did not matter . The virus did not discriminate . There have been pockets where the rates are higher in certain industries, and that can be remedied with what we have learned about the virus and the work place since March .

Meanwhile have you checked the rate of violence in Chi town this weekend ?

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Some of us have been working all along. You just proved that your preference is for people to be on government support rather than being self sufficient . Turns out our rate of infection is no different from those who are not working or do you have facts that prove differently ? At lease here in NY it did not matter . The virus did not discriminate . There have been pockets where the rates are higher in certain industries, and that can be remedied with what we have learned about the virus and the work place since March .

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I think you misread me Tom, as my support for workers through a pandemic has nothing to do with being self sufficient, and you cannot compare the NY experience to anywhere else in the country. Imagine where the conversation would be if Abbott would do NOW to what Cuomo did and is still doing? NY learned fast and executed a good plan and the rest of us have been IGNORING that example. Now send us Cuomo and stop comparing and misreading since you live in the land of the learned. How long did we get the images of a deserted times square every day, and your leader updating and explaining what he was doing? Now is the time to do what NY did, and STILL DOING, if it's not to late.

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Gang violence has been rampant in the south and west sides of Chicago since I was a very young man, under many mayors.

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Unemployment in some of the most affected areas rose to 35 percent from 28 percent during the pandemic, said Father Pfleger. “That is the tragedy,” he said. “The bad situation in this city got even worse with the pandemic. It exposed the reality that Black and brown communities are disproportionately affected.”
“Because this is not one crisis, this is two crises operating at the same time, this could in fact be worse than what we saw in 2016,”

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There are many who think Cuomo was slow . I don't fault him for that . I fault him for the 10s of thousand needless elderly deaths in NY that occurred solely due to his policy of housing senior covid patients in nursing homes . For that I say Andrew sei una testa di merda . Now he is way too slow opening up the state .

Like you said before we have learned much since the start of this thing Tom, and some have even learned how to effectively get around the site censor. I think you're impatient though at Cuomo's cautious approach, because the last thing the NE needs is a return to a lockdown and surge in cases after working very hard to mitigate this virus.

Seems like we have been through enough economic disruptions to have a better plan when they happen for any reason.

NY is CRAWLING out of lockdown . Connecticut right across the river has been out of lock down for a couple weeks and no new spikes . The only conclusion I can come up with is that il Duce likes the power over people because there is zero logic for the time frame he set up for NYC . or he doesn't want a recovery until after the elections .

BTW ;when it was clear that his nursing home policy was a mistake ,he stubbornly clung to it ;first denying he made the order ;then lying saying he was following CDC recommendations ;and then blaming the bad press of the NY Post before he FINALLY rescinded his directive . Face the facts il duce is a gowno

Makes perfect sense to slowdown the urge to go full bore because every place that was tried is a disaster. Darn dufus sycophants.

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Darn dufus sycophants.

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Trump says one thing, and the WH says the opposite. They call that leadership.