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Mike Pence and the Mayo Clinic

Hard to believe but the Trump Administration's man in charge of the Federal response to the Covid-19 virus has violated the very principles he preaches about on the daily Trump update.

While visiting the Mayo Clinic re Covid-19, Pence was video'd among a group of medical doctors and a patient who were all wearing masks.

Pence refused to wear a mask, thereby putting in danger all those around him. He also did not maintain social distancing.

The clinic specifically asked him to wear a mask but Pence said he had tested negative.

This expert on the virus had no clue that infection can happen any time after a test. And he is the person in charge appointed by his nutty president whom he adores.

Well being the only person not wearing the mask is a sin but he wouldn't infect anyone and he wouldn't get infected, The PR is bad but then his leader is worse, he doesn't wear a mask, even if we would all benefit if he did so, and he spruks false messages and misinformation. Pence hasn't suggested anyone inject disinfectant yet

According to a very recent article, tRump has threatened to dump him as his running mate in November if he doesn't "obey," meaning be like tRump, maskless.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

...not wearing the mask... he wouldn't infect anyone and he wouldn't get infected

The mask is to prevent OTHERS from being infected by the WEARER. A mask wearer can be infected in numerous ways.

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Pence hasn't suggested anyone inject disinfectant yet

LOL. "Yet" is the key word.

Yet is a key word in all these debates

So much for leadership, and leading by example, unless you consider slobbering all over the dufus at every opportunity a good thing. LOL, wonder who would replace Pence at this late date if he grew a pair?

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So much for leadership, and leading by example,

Do you include Obama in your disapproval for his recent golf outing a day after his wife had broadcast a plea for everyone to abide by the shelter in place regs? Was that leadership "by example"?

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...Xcy9Ax-FN7SwGI

Should we be aware that the current first lady has a similar PSA for wearing masks and the dufus has never worn one?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/melan...b6e7d76c646562

Senate Leader McConnell is demanding Congress return against the orders of the Capitol doctor in order to ram through an unqualified 37-year-old to the US Court of Appeals. The candidate has already been rated "not qualified" by the American Bar Association. That does not bother Trump or his flunkie McConnell.

McConnell's opposition in Kentucky is ex-combat Marine pilot Amy McGrath running as a Democrat.

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Should we be aware that the current first lady has a similar PSA for wearing masks and the dufus has never worn one?

Then I guess it just comes down to pols being equal opportunity hypocrites. Neither party has a monopoly on it. How many dems have come out on the side of the female accuser's accusations against Biden?

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Originally Posted by Athos

Senate Leader McConnell is demanding Congress return against the orders of the Capitol doctor in order to ram through an unqualified 37-year-old to the US Court of Appeals. The candidate has already been rated "not qualified" by the American Bar Association. That does not bother Trump or his flunkie McConnell.

McConnell's opposition in Kentucky is ex-combat Marine pilot Amy McGrath running as a Democrat.

It's been reported that they don't have enough tests for the senators and staff.

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It's been reported that they don't have enough tests for the senators and staff.

That's hard to believe, don't you think?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Then I guess it just comes down to pols being equal opportunity hypocrites. Neither party has a monopoly on it. How many dems have come out on the side of the female accuser's accusations against Biden?

From what I have gleaned we wait for more facts to be revealed. Unlike Kavanaugh's botched investigation quashed by the WH and repub senators at the hearing, or the dufus antics against his accusers, or inviting BC accusers to debates, we see where it goes. You have long held the need for evidence so we look for it right?

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That's hard to believe, don't you think?

NOPE, but it can be verified and rectified can't it?

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we see where it goes. You have long held the need for evidence so we look for it right?

We see where what goes? There is no investigation, and there is no long line of dems calling for an investigation. Yes, I held for the need of evidence unlike you who howled long and hard that we should simply believe the totally unsupported story of Blasey Ford, but who now holds a completely different position on Reade's accusations. Political prejudice??

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

We see where what goes? There is no investigation, and there is no long line of dems calling for an investigation. Yes, I held for the need of evidence unlike you who howled long and hard that we should simply believe the totally unsupported story of Blasey Ford, but who now holds a completely different position on Reade's accusations. Political prejudice??

Where is the long line of repubs calling for an investigation? You can read what I wrote about it, and I doubt your recollection of that event is accurate, nor is my position regard this event accurate. Of course while I may be biased and critical of the repubs execution of process Ms. Reade has not testified in public under oath either, so I really cannot evaluate her situation one way or another.

That's not political prejudice, but a lack of data. If you remember accurately my criticism was the antics of a drunk rich guy frat boy, and the repub sham investigation. I found Dr. Ford a credible witness after she testified. So as the press investigates and reports I may have a more definitive opinion.

Now if you see that as prejudice and inconsistent, that's YOU, and that's cool by me. I wait for more data to evaluate.

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Where is the long line of repubs calling for an investigation?

It is not for the Congress to investigate.

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Of course while I may be biased

Ya think???

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That's not political prejudice, but a lack of data.

Good luck with that one.

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If you remember accurately my criticism was the antics of a drunk rich guy frat boy, and the repub sham investigation. I found Dr. Ford a credible witness after she testified.

So you are prejudiced against the wealthy and against fraternity members. I get that. Dr. Ford credible? Are you speaking of the woman who couldn't remember half the story? That was credible? Yeah. No political prejudice at work there.

1. It's left to the people to decide right?

2. Well I am a progressive independent bleeding heart liberal who leans heavily democratic so there you go.

3. You seem to have facts about Ms. Reade I don't have so spill it. While you're at it explain why Ms. Reade is more credible than Dr. Ford while you biasedly ramble on.

4. I thought I was very specific about one person and his antics. He was in a rich family, a frat boy, and a beer swilling drunkard, so accurate by my account, without indicting anyone else broadly as you alleged. You have your opinion of people and events, I have mine, and on this we are polar opposites as no surprise.

You stubborn old coot I still vote for Joe over the dufus in the fall. You should let go of your nose breathe and do the same. 8)

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Ms. Reade is more credible than Dr. Ford while you biasedly ramble on.

I haven't said she is, but she is well able to remember details of her story which Dr. Ford could not. How many network news programs have interviewed Reade?

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He was in a rich family, a frat boy,

Why would you have needed to mention that? Did that make him guilty?

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and a beer swilling drunkard,

That is a gross exaggeration.

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You stubborn old coot I still vote for Joe over the dufus in the fall. You should let go of your nose breathe and do the same. 8)

If you are honest and your eyes are open, then you'll be holding your nose as firmly as I will.

So why are we relitigated an old story, and not talking about the current one. You must be bored.

No other reason than to point out the hypocrisy of some of the liberal dems on this board.

What hypocrisy could that be?

Giving Kavanaugh down the river on very little evidence (rich..frat boy..drunken bum, all from decades ago) but wanting to be Mr. Reasonble with Biden.

you know it sounds like you have a lot of drunken bums in high places

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Giving Kavanaugh down the river on very little evidence (rich..frat boy..drunken bum, all from decades ago) but wanting to be Mr. Reasonble with Biden.

No, hypocrisy is defending Kavanaugh, but not Biden for something that happened decades ago. Joe wasn't a drunk frat boy, if he was I would call him one. Hypocrisy is saying no evidence against the drunk frat boy, and thinking there is against Biden, so throw him under the bus before any investigations.

You're checking all the boxes so far.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

you know it sounds like you have a lot of drunken bums in high places

Guns and booze is American as apple pie, but whom else could you be referring to Clete? maybe you should check your own high places. Or is ignorance bliss?

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No, hypocrisy is defending Kavanaugh, but not Biden for something that happened decades ago. Joe wasn't a drunk frat boy, if he was I would call him one. Hypocrisy is saying no evidence against the drunk frat boy, and thinking there is against Biden, so throw him under the bus before any investigations.

Ha! Thank you for backing yourself into a corner. I feel the same way about both of them. If the evidence is there, then prosecute them. If not, then get off their backs. The evidence was clearly not there for Kav. As for Biden, I give him the benefit of the doubt until it gets proven. So how does that look for the non-hypocritical approach???

As for the rich, frat-boy prejudice you have, which is wrong in the same way as racial prejudice is wrong, how do you know Biden doesn't qualify?

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Guns and booze is American as apple pie, but whom else could you be referring to Clete? maybe you should check your own high places. Or is ignorance bliss?

We are more likely to have scandal regarding influence but there was one drunken bum of note, a GG who sacked a government and a Downer who was a downer for the US in the hunt for Russian influence

Rich frat boy drunkard is a fact. No prejudice involved. Show me the evidence that Biden was a rich frat boy drunk and you made a case. I won't relitigate Kavanaugh though, as it's easy enough to review the archives here for yourself. I get though repubs want this as an issue whether it has merit or not, and given this crisis and questions of it's management a bit of dirt on Ol' Joe might level the playing field, but if the dufus can overcome his own words, antics, and allegations of women issues then I'm sure the dems can get past this allegation.

Plus I think you're just bored and ain't got no friends. 8O

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Rich frat boy drunkard is a fact. No prejudice involved.

Of course it's prejudice. There's nothing wrong with being rich or being in a fraternity, and I would bet you did some drinking yourself back in the day as did I. So to hold those things against someone is absolutely prejudice.

More bad news for your boy. Two witnesses corroborate the accusations against him.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ap-...egations-biden

Friends? Who has friends during this lock down? It is starting to get old.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Of course it's prejudice. There's nothing wrong with being rich or being in a fraternity, and I would bet you did some drinking yourself back in the day as did I. So to hold those things against someone is absolutely prejudice.

More bad news for your boy. Two witnesses corroborate the accusations against him.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ap-...egations-biden

Friends? Who has friends during this lock down? It is starting to get old.

No I wasn't a frat boy or rich, and I don't exactly hold it against him, it was just a statement of fact, but your two witness just say that she told them about the incident, one was a decade later. I'll just wait for the interview.

I get fresh air since the weather turned nice, and keep the phones hot talking to other shut ins. I got peeps everywhere. Helps but not much.

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/...60&u=t&o=f&l=f

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your two witness just say that she told them about the incident,

First of all, they are not my witnesses. But you see what I mean? Two witnesses (in addition to her mom) say she told them about the incident and you just blow that off. Blasey-Ford had ZERO confirmation for her story. She said she has some witnesses, but they all said they knew nothing about the supposed incident, and yet you were all over that and found her to be "credible". Politics. Just that simple.

What's your problem? I stand by what I have written here and before, and just like they aren't YOUR witnesses, then give me the same considerations you give yourself and stop conflating my response with the media, or what you falsely claim and assume are my words. Definitely stop projecting your own hypocrisy on to me.

Don't you have enough to do keeping the dufus' lies straight and trying to defend them? I said investigate the frat boy, and I said investigate Ol' Joe so what part of that is it that confuses you?

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I said investigate the frat boy, and I said investigate Ol' Joe so what part of that is it that confuses you?

That's your whole problem. I'm not confused. Kavanaugh was investigated, and the evidence was the testimony of one very confused and not believable woman, but you raked him over the coals and counted him as guilty. You even belittled anyone who appealed to the lack of evidence. Now with Biden, suddenly you are all about giving him due consideration. You had no regard for her three witnesses, but Ford didn't have any.

Repubs also found Ford credible. Reade has canceled an interview on fake news citing security issues, but can't we wait for her to appear and tell her story? Her witnesses say they told her of an incident, and if that's enough evidence for you okay. For some that's not enough and her problem may be the same lack of corroborating evidence as with Dr.Ford. We'll see. I'm not going to jump to conclusions until I see/hear more.

There was plenty of evidence for the rich drunk frat boy label though. As there is for touchy feely Joe, and his acknowledgements since being confronted. I find him credible at this point, so bring Ms. Reade on whenever she feels comfortable. Or you could supply links that bolster YOUR credibility on this subject.

Fascinating though your pattern of comparing everything when circumstances dictate a case by case review. I mean you ignored the females that came out against the dufus, and understood his lying about affairs with playboy bunnies and porn stars covering it up with no remorse. Would I be a hypocrite for doing the same for Biden?

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evidence for the rich drunk frat boy label though.

Still with the prejudice? Disappointing. Prejudice from a liberal dem is even uglier than usual because all of you claim to dislike it so much. You dislike it until you think it serves your purpose.

So you condone young people drinking to oblivion, while I do not. It was stupid when I did it, and stupid when Kavanaugh did it. I think you mistake my pragmatism about the Reade situation with your own zeal to pin a label on me. Cool since you lack the credibility to make it stick except in your own mind. That's not my problem though.

Obvlion, I think I heard of it once while drunk in my youth. We fail to teach the young by making alcohol readily available under the guise of making it illegal

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So you condone young people drinking to oblivion

You find where I have said that and we can talk about it. Otherwise, it would certainly appear to be lying on your part.

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It was stupid when I did it, and stupid when Kavanaugh did it.

Fair enough, but it reduces your criticisms of Kav to zero. You've already said there is nothing wrong with being rich or in a frat, and now you have to admit that his youthful drinking was no worse or stupid than your youthful drinking or, for that matter, mine.

https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/...0502074508.jpg

Alcohol was banned from the public airwaves many years ago, but that ban has lifted and we are bombarded with the drink responsibly by many brands now. Doesn't change the fact it's a problem for some more than others, and always have been. I think though the argument on this board is not about the alcohol, though it plays a big part in the behaviors of the youths involved, at least with the Kavanaugh part, but about sexual harrassment and assault by public figures. You have to be crazy not to see that this has been from the direct actions by our dufus president, who bragged and denies his own words and actions even with proof and gets a free pass from supporters. They held their nose and expect the opposition to hang our own candidate for allegations against him. They holler no evidence, but while we look for evidence in the current times they think they have enough already to justify the further support of the dufus.

Politics JL! Pure and simply! Biden's scandal or allegation of one, pales in comparison to the ones of the dufus and his ilk, in size scope and details over just the last 3 years, so no surprise you would rather quote scripture and proteolyze than talk about the flaws of the dufus. Easier to diminish, minimize, project, and deny, and ignore any facts that opposes your narrow views and agenda, and embrace a dufus that gets you what you want, no matter what he does.

I get you!

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You have to be crazy not to see that this has been from the direct actions by our dufus president,

The big four recently have been Kav (not guilty), Biden (only accused so far), Bill Cosby, and the wealthy guy whose name escapes me. Those all occurred before we even heard of Trump, so it's just another symptom of your TDS.

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embrace a dufus that gets you what you want, no matter what he does.

Another lie. Wow. That's two and it's not even eight o-clock yet. You're on a roll!

Take five minutes and listen to this. It's strictly non-partisan about the virus. I'd love to know what you think. https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/24/s...end-isolation/

The Hoover Institute is non partisan? They have always embraced the conservative view. Who you think your fooling JL.