"What's the problem? A few tens of thousands dead more or less because of my delay. There's plenty more where that came from. No big deal!"
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"What's the problem? A few tens of thousands dead more or less because of my delay. There's plenty more where that came from. No big deal!"
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Just trimming the population in those democrat boroughs
Until it gets to the republican stix, the military, and the unreported old folks homes in all the states. Doesn't seem to take much to get started. Once it starts I don't think your political party will have much to do with it.
Hard to believe, but Lindsey Graham claims Trump saved "millions of lives" by his action fighting the virus. Trump did exactly nothing for the entire month of February and nothing for 2-3 weeks into March.
After Trump's soft ban on China January 31, he dropped the ball, saying there was no problem, "I will fix it", and other idiotic statements.
During that 70 days, he was repeatedly warned by his advisors, the CDC, WHO, Drs. Fauci and Birx, the media, and his political appointees that a pandemic was coming. He ignored them all until the situation became overwhelming, even for a buffoon like Trump.
Those SBA loans are out of money, before the average man has seen a dime, as unemployment and long food bank lines are growing. Yeah we will be back to normal in May and the dufus can't wait to see live sports again. Who will he blame in May when none of that happens?
Ah the darling month of May, well April is a writeoff
No telling at this time how many months we have to write off. We learn as we go.
I'll just start with today which is a write off so far,
I'm still trying to finish stuff I did't get to yesteday, and likely there will be enough leftover for Saturday as well.
the malaise has set in, I've got a half painted gable on the end of my house
Tell me about it! Malais should be for sandwiches not chores and projects. I like sandwiches...chores and projects not so much.
I have a number of incomplete projects, lack of motivation and following a directive to stay at home doesn't help
I'm at home a lot anyway, and have a lot of plain lazy days...like today for instance. Maybe tomorrow too, we will just have to wait and see! I could really use a bidet, with a power brush attachment on days like this.
Bidet retrofit for existing toilets are readily available on the internet, $70, you could invite jl over to fit it for you. You and I seem to share the same work planQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Do you mean this one, tal?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQM__8...ature=youtu.be
Yes That's it,
https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...0,1,3,4,6,8,10 that's actually the one I mean
LOL, I think a butt butler is a great idea. Might save on toilet paper too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I've seen them for years and Euros love them but a rotating brush would be a nice addition...variable speeds and self cleaning, of course. Maybe a scent spritzer too that covers funky farts! That would be innovative.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
What 70 days were these ? They had to have been before January 6 when Trump's CDC began taking action.
Was that when they found out the tests didn't work? We still are rationing what tests we do have after the dufus proudly proclaims we have done more testing than anybody in the world which is true using just raw numbers, but we are last in per capita testing, but if thats all you got then that's all you got. Doesn't help if it's not a priority to ramp up testing and states certainly are trying by hook, crook, and steath since FEMA is intercepting shipments, helped by the FBI.
Feds VS States doesn't help.
January 3 CDC Director Robert Redfield sent an email to the director of the Chinese CDC, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus.
CDC Director Redfield sent another email to the Chinese CDC Director, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak,Jan 6 CDC issued a travel notice on Wuhan, China, before any U.S. infection arose.
Jan 6 CDC issued a travel notice on Wuhan, China, before any U.S. infection arose.The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.
Jan 20
Jan 17 CDC began enhanced screening for COVID-19 symptoms at three U.S. airports, in San Francisco, Los Angeles and New York's JFK. U.S. infections: Zero.
CDC opened an emergency operations center after one U.S. COVID-19 patient was diagnosed.https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...irus-response/Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.
Jan 21 CDC expanded COVID-19 checks to airports in Chicago and Atlanta.CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.
January 21The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.
Jan 20 Trump tweeted that he made an offer to President Xi Jinping to send experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak.CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.
Jan 29 Trump creates the coronavirus task force
Jan 31One day after the WHO declared COVID-19 a “Public Health Emergency of International Concern,” Trump restricted travel from China.Quid pro Joe this policy “hysterical xenophobia.” CDC began the first mandatory quarantines since the 1960s. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar declared “a public health emergency in the United States.”
Feb 2CDC added Honolulu, Seattle and Dulles airports to those already screening travelers from China.
Feb 4 FDAallowed emergency use of CDC’s COVID-19 test in non-CDC labs. “My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from” COVID-19, Trump said in his State of the Union address.
Feb 5White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and Secretary Azar briefed lawmakers on COVID-19. “Several House lawmakers of both parties said the administration has the situation under control,” the Seattle Times reported.
The House Foreign Affairs Committee held a hearing on “The Wuhan Coronavirus.” This was the first time that either House of Congress addressed this . They were all too preoccupied trying to convict Trump.
Feb 6CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.Feb 9
Trump’s Coronavirus Task Force briefed the states' chief executives at the National Governors Association Meeting.
Feb 11HHS expanded collaboration with Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen Research & Development division to produce a COVID-19 vaccine.
Feb 12 The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.
Feb 14Feb 18CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus.
HHS offered expertise and funds to help Sanofi Pasteur develop a COVID-19 vaccine and treatments.
Feb 26 Trump assigned VP Mike Pence to lead the administration’s COVID-19 response.
Feb 24The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.
Feb 29FDA let LabCorp, Quest, and other diagnosticians develop COVID-19 tests and liberated states to engage some 2,000 such laboratories. The administration discouraged travel to parts of South Korea and Italy and restricted arrivals from Iran.
March 3CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”
March 4The Trump Administration announced the purchase of approximately 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus.
March 6Trump signed $8.3 billion in COVID-19 response funds approved by both Houses of Congress on March 4 .
March 10Trump and Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing.
March 11 Trump restricts travel from Europe .
March 13, Trump proclaimed a national emergency, unleashed $42 billion, forgave student-loan interest; deregulated telemedicine, interstate medical practice and the hiring of physicians at hospitals; and persuaded Costco, Walmart and other retailers to launch drive-thru COVID-19 tests. FDA let Roche and Thermo Fisher produce COVID-19 tests.HHS announced funding for the development of two new rapid diagnostic tests, which would be able to detect coronavirus in approximately 1 hour.
March 15HHS announced it is projected to have 1.9 million COVID-19 tests available in 2,000 labs this week.Google announced a partnership with the Trump Administration to develop a website dedicated to coronavirus education, prevention, & local resources.
All 50 states were contacted through FEMA to coordinate “federally-supported, state-led efforts” to end coronavirus
March 16 Trump Announced that the first potential vaccine for coronavirus has entered a phase one trial in a record amount of time. Announced “15 days to slow the spread” coronavirus guidance.The FDA announced it was empowering states to authorize tests developed and used by labs in their states.Asst. Secretary for Health confirmed the availability of 1 million coronavirus tests, and projected 2 million tests available the next week and 5 million the following.
March 17The Department of Defense announced it will make available to HHS up to five million respirator masks and 2,000 ventilators.
March 18Trump signed the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, which provides free testing and paid sick leave for workers impacted by the coronavirus.He also temporarily closed the US Canada border to non-essential travel. He also announced that he plansto invoke the Defense Production Act .Also FEMA activated in every region at its highest level of response .The U.S. Navy will deploy USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy hospital ships. All foreclosures and evictions will be suspended for a period of time.HHS temporarily suspended a regulation that prevents doctors from practicing across state lines.
March 19Pence announced tens of thousands of ventilators have been identified that can be converted to treat patients.The State Department issued a global level 4 health advisory, telling Americans to avoid all international travel due to coronavirus.Trump directed FEMA to take the lead on the Federal Government’s coronavirus response
March 20Secretary Azar sent a letter to all 50 Governors that the federal government is buying and making available 200,000 testing swabs
Tom, what these people are saying is that aside from those more than 30 actions, Trump has done nothing.
I have acknowledged the huge challenge we face and anyone would be hard pressed to catch up to this virus effectively. Having said that though, take the dufus from the equation, because he has done nothing but take credit for what the governors and his administration have accomplished since this thing started. The people around him are trying their best no doubt, but it can't be easy fighting a REAL virus, and a REAL dufus at the same time.
I might feel different if not for his daily public antics and lies during these serious times, which amounts to self promotion more than leadership, but to be honest I wouldn't be foolish enough to follow him anywhere, or believe anything he says.
Case in point the gathering evidence that his promotion of a drug is proving more dangerous than useful in fighting the virus except maybe those fighting an underlying ailment which the drug is used for any way. Fauci said that in the beginning though, but who listens to him?
So he is taking credit for what his administration has done??? Whoever heard of such a thing.Quote:
he has done nothing but take credit for what...his administration have accomplished
I don't think you would.Quote:
I might feel different if not for his daily public antics and lies during these serious times,
What do you think Presidents do ? Wash beakers in a lab ? Of course his administrators took action at his direction . I could've posted another 30 or more actions taken by the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION since where I cut it off on March 20. I thought maybe you would get the point .
The man who tells us to trust science and the scientific method comes to a conclusion by a non-peer reviewed study that had a total of 368 patients in VA hospitals . I'm sure they determined in advance optimal dosage and duration of treatment .And how critical were the patients ?
Now Novartis is going to be doing an FDA sponsored clinical trial in more than a dozen sites around the country . It will be far more extensive and ethical.
Just not going to let me sound fair are you? The whole administration is incompetent and that starts at the top. Your 30 talking points you think are so great is nothing but proclamations and paper shuffling that have accomplished NOTHING.
Happy now? Or did you expect me to point by point knock down all those claims of excellence you want to credit the dufus for? The bottom line is always what is really accomplished so far? We're still waiting for PPE for essential workers, and testing for everybody after how many months?
You cannot ignore that!
Funny thing about PPE . The Chinese knew they unleashed this hell on the world .So one of the first things they did was to corner the market . This at the same time thatUS manufacturers like 3M and Honeywell told the White House that China prohibited them from exporting their products from China .. The ChiComs spent a fortune early in the year buying up the international stock of PPE.They even sold back to Italy the PPE that Italy had donated to them .
Should we blame the Chinese for being ruthless opportunistic capitalists, or our own business community for getting into dumb contracts with authoritarians, leaving the homeland very dependent on the competition? Another point of contention for me that during a pandemic they invested in their own self interest and reap the rewards. You could make the case that 3M and Honeywell didn't get in on the opportunity with their own American plants. Not the first time American plants overseas got caught taking foreign profits from ruthless governments against American interests.
So Tom, what did Washington do about the ChiComs blocking export to America?
well we did not drop a nuke if that is what yiu mean . This wasn't a matter of bad contracts . This was a matter of the Chicoms violating contracts . 3M manufactures in China to export to the US . Was it a bad deal for the US ? Clearly . I don't know when 3M went to China . I can almost guarantee that it was not on Trump's watch . He was railing against bad business deals with China for years before he ran for President .
The US government ;the state of Missouri ,various health care providers have filed or is in the process of filing lawsuits against China .
Me I would go further . I would let the Chinese know that as of today ,their Treasury holdings have the value of toilet paper until this is resolved . I would also get together with the rest of the G7 and formally sue them for trillions for patent violations andArticles Six and Seven of the International Health Regulations [IHRs], a Treaty to which China is a signatory and legally obliged to uphold. I would hold an investigation in China's role in hiding a number of factors about the Wuhan virus 'sanction Xi and all his ministers ;deny China the right to have pharmaceuticals in the US supply chain. China has tried to blame the US for the outbreak going so far as to say we intentionally released it . That effort has to be challenged . Already some 3rd world nations are buying into that bs .
I'm not sure any nation as dependent on credit as we sadly are can afford to make itself look unreliable as regards it debts. But then if we lost our ability to borrow easy money, it could be the best thing to happen to us.Quote:
Me I would go further . I would let the Chinese know that as of today ,their Treasury holdings have the value of toilet paper until this is resolved .
You may be interested in this as some background
https://knowledge.ckgsb.edu.cn/2014/...y-china-china/
I wasn't looking for nuking China, but an explanation and restitution in a very big way would be in order. This is a dirty premeditated move by anyone's imagination. As bad as the dufus trade wars? Stupid but not even close.
Seizing their assets would be a big shot across the bow . They could retaliate .however they need American investment in their country more than we need them .But yeah that is probably not going to happen Maybe we could convince them to "forgive " some of their holding of US debt as part of a restitution . It is time to stop treating them like a reliable trading partner and begin disengagement . China knew that person to person transmission was happening by the 2nd week of December . They hid that fact until January 20. The WHO went to bat for them and their lie on Jan 14. They are complicit in an act of wmd terrorism by their cover up and denials.
"3M became the first wholly-owned foreign-invested enterprise in China in 1984 and has since invested more than $1 billion in the country. 3M China has now grown to more than 11 sites and 8,000 employees."
https://news.3m.com/press-release/co...as-west-region
I was thinking more along the lines of 3M taking actions since it amounts to one entity breaking the contract, by stopping exports than between two governments squabbling. Isn't that the free market solution? I'm surprised them and other MNC haven't gone that route before.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I've always thought that American companies took to much guff off of foreign nations when dealing with government run businesses. I know hard to give up the Chinese markets or any other for that matter, and stop your cut of the profits, but a breach of contract lawsuit by GM and others would at least leverage some renegotiations with better terms and outcomes. Not like they don't have PROOF and the lawyers to push it.
I mean what's the point of being a capitalists if your scared of pissing off authoritarian governments? I was downright disappointed when the NBA didn't tell Xi to screw himself, or Microsoft allowing their product to be sanitized for Chinese consumption. Yes I blame Big Biz for being exploited for their GREED!
With that kind of investment one wonder what their ROI is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Thought we could start the day with a little humor.
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Haaaaaa! Haaaaa!
Wouldn't the fourth one down sort of be the equivalent of holding your nose and voting for Biden?
Not really, GO JOE GO!
Hmmm. Your cartoon. Your nose.
When you don't have a solution, any solution will do
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