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  • Mar 4, 2020, 04:35 PM
    paraclete
    Utter foolishness, but what you gunnado?
    when the tiolet paper runs out?

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...d13e86cd59047e

    coronavirus foolishness has reached new levels in Australia, a nation with few cases and even fewer deaths. Supermarket shelves have been stripped of everyday household items. Where I live, far from the major cities and certainly far from any reported cases of coronavirus, now known as CV, supermarket shelves have been stripped. Total foolishness and total selfishness. be prepared for this new blight to happen near you.

    In a supermarket yesterday two women were seen fighting over a packet of pasta. When did your life depend on a packet of pasta?
  • Mar 4, 2020, 08:12 PM
    Vacuum7
    Paraclete: Same stupidity is at work here in the U.S.: Hand sanitizers are GONE and if you find any they are PRICE GOUGING the daylights out of them. No hard times yet and people are ready to cut each others throats: Just think if A REAL EMERGENCY emerges: People will be killing one another.
  • Mar 4, 2020, 09:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Paraclete: Same stupidity is at work here in the U.S.: Hand sanitizers are GONE and if you find any they are PRICE GOUGING the daylights out of them. No hard times yet and people are ready to cut each others throats: Just think if A REAL EMERGENCY emerges: People will be killing one another.

    Time for open carry of my Mauser....
  • Mar 5, 2020, 05:28 AM
    Vacuum7
    W.G.: How in the world do you know about Mausers? Is there something we don't know about you and firearms? Mausers are one of my favorite high powered rifles!
  • Mar 5, 2020, 05:58 AM
    paraclete
    Again utter foolishness, Doctors are buying masks from hardware stores, dentists are shutting down
  • Mar 5, 2020, 07:02 AM
    talaniman
    How hard is it to swab people and get tests results from a reliable lab? Heck the Koreans have a drive thru for such testing.
  • Mar 5, 2020, 10:44 AM
    Vacuum7
    Talaniman & Paraclete: Ya'll are looking at this all wrong! The angle here for a great many is: "How are we going PROFIT from this CV thing"? In the time of the Apocalypse, there will be someone trying like hell to turn a few bucks more out the impending doom: It is Biblical that it must be this way.
  • Mar 5, 2020, 02:35 PM
    paraclete
    Yes it is the american way, but not our way, we have had a long crisis season, no excuse, but people are tired and the media relentless, so people believe there is a crisis when none exists
  • Mar 5, 2020, 03:39 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    How hard is it to swab people and get tests results from a reliable lab? Heck the Koreans have a drive thru for such testing.

    Tal it isn't hard but the process risks infection since you don't know where the patient or the health worker has been. When doctors start dying, and patients start dying it throws the system into chaos, where do you look next. Yesterday staff at a nursing home didn't turn up because an elderly patient had died from CV and a staff member accused of spreading the virus. Kids are turning up to school infected and noone know why, all isolated cases but this thing has been in the community longer than we know
  • Mar 5, 2020, 05:55 PM
    tomder55
    I think of the greatest generation . I think of my father in law who spent his boyhood in the ruins of the Blitz . I think of my wife's grandfather who was wounded and taken prisoner as a member of the French resistence . I think of my father fighting in Korea ;and then was going to go to Nam during Kennedy's term until he got ill from all the immuniztion shots the Navy gave him.

    Then I think of the stupidity of our self inflicted panic of a virus that compared to recent epidemics seems tepid .I am embarrassed how wet noodle our spines have become. I mean seriously ;we have Tito Vodka having to advertise that it is not a good idea to use their product in home made hand soap solutions. that the sale of Corona beer has sufferer since the outbreak . That people are emptying the shelves of TP .That it is almost impossible to find N95 masks even for heath care providers who genuinely need them while at the same time wearing them out on the street when you are healthy is a complete waste of a good mask.

    Here is some perspective ;
    the CDC estimates that there have been 18,000-46,000 deaths
    so far this season. And that happens EVERY year even with the preparation of millions of doses of vaccine. And yet we somehow manage to go about out lives without irrational panic. 2009 the H1N1 swine flu caused at least 150,000 deaths worldwide and over 12,000 in the US . I do not recall a panic like we see here with almost around the clock coverage . Covid 19 appears to be a mild strain of corona virus .The children who have it do not die. The adults who have died appear to have other issues compromising their immune system.
  • Mar 5, 2020, 06:17 PM
    talaniman
    Can't say about NY, but I don't see much panic in my neck of the woods, but we won't know how extensive this virus is because nobody is testing on a large scale so who knows exactly what the extent of it is.
  • Mar 5, 2020, 06:18 PM
    paraclete
    Tom I agree we have been coddled by modern medicine and the millennials and recent generations are a bunch of woosses, they panic. CV appears to attack those with kidney disease while the rest of us catch cold, I have been sneezing and have a runny nose have I contracted CV, of course I haven't, but the millennials will run to the doctor fueled by media hype
  • Mar 5, 2020, 06:55 PM
    talaniman
    How can you know whether you have CV without being tested?
  • Mar 5, 2020, 07:14 PM
    Vacuum7
    I know its a terrible thing to say, a terrible reminder.....BUT: We are ALL going to die one day....if you number is up, your number is up....If you live in fear, you are not living the way we were designed to live: Nobody, no one, like cowards: This life is to be lived. ALL OF OUR WAKING HOURS ARE PREORDAINED!
  • Mar 5, 2020, 08:06 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    How can you know whether you have CV without being tested?

    because it cannot have arrived here yet, and even if it has I haven't been in contact with but a few people. I no doubt have a coronavirus, the common cold, not CV-19
  • Mar 6, 2020, 05:27 AM
    talaniman
    I hope you're right and your fortunes continue, but maybe check those tourists, and sneaky migrants to keep it that way and be wary of your trading partners, as I've heard it's an easy thing to be caught unawares of. If you find a vaccine please share that with us.
  • Mar 6, 2020, 05:50 AM
    tomder55
    it has been here for months . But most of us confused it with sinus sniffles
  • Mar 7, 2020, 05:08 PM
    paraclete
    You could be right, the sudden onset in various places suggests it has been around longer than the official version, meanwhile the panic continues, people fighting in supermarkets, limits on purchases in supermarkets, it is inexplicable in a modern ordered society

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/busi...1b999ac1828cc8
  • Mar 8, 2020, 04:02 AM
    talaniman
    Don't be so hard on yor fellow Aussies Clete. People paper is important! Would you want to be locked down in your house without it?
  • Mar 9, 2020, 06:11 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Don't be so hard on yor fellow Aussies Clete. People paper is important! Would you want to be locked down in your house without it?

    I have a bidet so no need to panic, those who have panicked are selfish bogans. you can't eat toilet paper, or maybe you can but supermarket trolleys piled high with toilet paper show the level of intelligence, the level of my stock has reduced two rolls since the crisis began, horror, I need another big pack immediately
  • Mar 11, 2020, 12:30 PM
    tomder55
    https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...39&oe=5E91A6F0
  • Mar 11, 2020, 02:36 PM
    paraclete
    good one
  • Mar 11, 2020, 03:16 PM
    tomder55
    March Madness is the unofficial name for the NCAA college basketball tournament . It is a big revenue opportunity for the colleges ,the cities that host the tournament ,the employees at the arenas ,the network that airs the event . and local businesses that support the events . It lasts 3 weeks. It is a cultural phenomenon in this country .

    The NCAA announced today that the teams will be playing at empty arenas for the next 3 weeks . It is March Madness indeed
  • Mar 11, 2020, 03:30 PM
    tomder55
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29l...ature=emb_logo
  • Mar 11, 2020, 04:42 PM
    paraclete
    another good one Tom
  • Mar 11, 2020, 05:39 PM
    tomder55
    https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...42&oe=5E951508
  • Mar 11, 2020, 07:49 PM
    paraclete
    https://www.facebook.com/robert.merr...232875018/?t=0
  • Mar 12, 2020, 03:18 AM
    talaniman
    NBA suspended it's season, and more to follow for sure. What no baseball?
  • Mar 12, 2020, 05:20 AM
    paraclete
    the end of the world as we know it
  • Mar 12, 2020, 05:26 AM
    talaniman
    Cabin fever for some, binge watching for others. Popcorn for all!
  • Mar 12, 2020, 12:49 PM
    tomder55
    I am sure Spring Training will end in a day or less and the season delayed . I count on college baskeball to fill the gap between the Super Bowl and the opening of MLB.

    Now all the cities are cancelling St Patty's day parades . What an event it is in NYC ! I have come into the city on the train and half the passengers are drunk before they reach Grand Central Station on the morning of the parade .

    But the good news is that the bars will still be open . Everyone knows that the hidden cure to Wuhan Virus (may as well call it what it is ) ;is a couple of shots of Jameson with a Guiness chaser .
  • Mar 12, 2020, 04:41 PM
    talaniman
    So China is suffering from a hangover not the flu?
  • Mar 13, 2020, 04:28 AM
    Vacuum7
    Did any of you hear of a book by Dean Koontz entitled "The Eyes Of Darkness"? In that book, he predicts this bronchial pandemic, he predicts the year, he predicts the location in China from which it came, and he has a name for it called Wuhan-400, which is claimed to arise from biological weapons research by the ChiComs….SOUND FAR FETCHED? No, its not....damn thing was written a while back.
  • Mar 13, 2020, 04:41 AM
    tomder55
    released 1981 .
  • Mar 13, 2020, 05:30 AM
    Vacuum7
    tomder55: Just a fanciful imagination by Koontz or what? How do you explain this? Right at 40 years ago written (publishing and release takes time).

    Here is what makes me mad as hell: EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN U.S. ELECTIONS: IS THIS NOT CHINESE COMMUNIST MEDDLING IN U.S. ELECTIONS? They release a contagion to knock the hell out of the U.S. economy in order to derail President Trump's Reelection and NOBODY is saying anything about that being meddling in the U.S. Election Process? COME ON!
  • Mar 13, 2020, 05:45 AM
    tomder55
    He has some of it right ie the source probably originating from a bio-research (weapon? ) lab. His virus in not a corona strain . I have read many of his books . This one I did read but did not remember the details until you brought it up . I believe this was just an accidental release . There is a market near the lab that sells exotic meats like bat . The lab was doing experiments on bats . From there is spread because the Chinese travel to this country at a rate of 7,000 a day when there are no restrictions . This also began in late December ;right before Chinese New Year ;January being a very heavy travel month for the Chinese . Could it be intentional ? Maybe . But I wonder if even XI would be crazy enough to release it on his own population .

    I liken this more to Lyme Disease where the epicenter was Lyme Connecticut ;right across the Long Island Sound from the US research lab on Plum Island . That too is a cover up .
  • Mar 13, 2020, 07:47 AM
    talaniman
    Doesn't matter where this thing came from or why anymore, as it's more important to focus on what we do about it now, and as a matter of course the dufus is fumbling and bumbling and his failure to test and has everybody wondering WTF? That's not good and if it weren't for locals and states we would be up the creek without a paddle. He needs to just shut up and authorize the checks when the states and cities call for it. Every industry is more than funded and capable of covering it's own arse as far as a market solution.

    You think some rich MOFO ain't buying up all those stocks that are falling all over the place? One FACT we know that rich guys got plenty of money from repubs last year, so when you hear them holler, ignore them and worry about yourself!
  • Mar 13, 2020, 09:46 AM
    tomder55
    testing needs to be prioritized to high risk categories and those who have symptoms. it was not for those who are anxious and want piece of mind or hypochondriacs . and hate to break it to you ;the ability to produce more test kits is limited by Federal red tape ;specifically regs adopted by the emperor during H1N1 . 1 States were not permited to produce their own test kits 2. all test kits had to be sent to a CDC lab to be confirmed by federal authorities, a process that extended the wait times for patients to be notified about their results.

    Both have been lifted so soon there will be plenty of kits available . They will be selling them at Ancestry .com . btw 4 million test kits will have been already been distributed by Monday . .

    Even the Slimes is reporting on the real cause . According to the Slimes Seattle infectious disease expert Dr. Helen Chu had, by January, collected a huge number of nasal swabs from local residents who were experiencing symptoms as part of a research project on flu. She proposed, to federal and state officials, testing those samples for coronavirus infections. As the Slimes reports, the CDC told Chu and her team that they could not test the samples unless their laboratory test was approved by the FDA. The FDA refused to approve Chu's test on the grounds that her lab "was not certified as a clinical laboratory under regulations established by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, a process that could take months." In the meantime, the CDC required that public health officials could only use the diagnostic test designed by the agency. That test released on February 5 turned out to be badly flawed The CDC's insistence on a top-down centralized testing regime greatly slowed down the process of disease detection as the infection rate was accelerating.A frustrated Chu and her colleagues began testing on February 25 without government approval. They almost immediately detected a coronavirus infection in a local teenager with no recent travel history. Chu warned local public health officials of her lab's finding and the teenager's school was closed as a precaution. The teen's diagnosis strongly suggested that the disease had been circulating throughout the western part of Washington for weeks. We now know that that is likely true.
  • Mar 13, 2020, 02:15 PM
    talaniman
    As the prez announced an emergency and CEO's said nice stuff and drive thru testing the markets shot up! Bout time he figured it out, and it's Friday so he can't screw things up tomorrow with his big mouth BS!
  • Mar 15, 2020, 02:49 PM
    paraclete
    here's a novel twist for the novel virus, supermarkets implement elderly hours, but you have to get there before regular opening hours., now if the held an elderly day that would make sense

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