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  • Dec 12, 2019, 08:54 PM
    paraclete
    A Conservative win in UK
    So once again the divisive forces of the left have been repulsed and change will happen. Boris Johnson will now lead the UK out of Europe and the democratic process has been upheld. The wishes of the majority will be implemented
  • Dec 12, 2019, 10:11 PM
    Vacuum7
    Paraclete: This is remarkable news! It seems that the Right is on the march around the globe......The forces on the left, here in the U.S. and all their allies around the world, are taking their orders from their puppet masters in Red China. Trump has bloodied China's nose with tariffs and the bastards have wilted under the pressure and submitted to his will. Meanwhile, Jair Bolsonaro, who will probably go down at the greatest leader in the history of Brazil, has the communists/socialists on the run and has told the media to stop giving the "little brat, Greta Thunberg, so much air time, while telling France's socialist poster boy Macron to grow a pair and worry about his own screwed-up country!

    So happy that Great Britain has voted to retain its heritage and the ownership of its own destiny and told the German conspiracy, know as the E.U., to go burn in hell, if they so chose to keep going that way as they have been going.
  • Dec 13, 2019, 04:35 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Paraclete: This is remarkable news! It seems that the Right is on the march around the globe......The forces on the left, here in the U.S. and all their allies around the world, are taking their orders from their puppet masters in Red China. Trump has bloodied China's nose with tariffs and the bastards have wilted under the pressure and submitted to his will. Meanwhile, Jair Bolsonaro, who will probably go down at the greatest leader in the history of Brazil, has the communists/socialists on the run and has told the media to stop giving the "little brat, Greta Thunberg, so much air time, while telling France's socialist poster boy Macron to grow a pair and worry about his own screwed-up country!

    So happy that Great Britain has voted to retain its heritage and the ownership of its own destiny and told the German conspiracy, know as the E.U., to go burn in hell, if they so chose to keep going that way as they have been going.

    Yes the Fourth Reich is on the run and the master race have been polluted from the ME, that is what socialism does for you. Once again the Battle for Britain has been won and Ecosse can run to France, but they won't protect them
  • Dec 13, 2019, 06:41 AM
    talaniman
    It's a global right wing loony epidemic all right. The zombie apocalypse has begun.
  • Dec 13, 2019, 03:12 PM
    paraclete
    Hide from really Tal, but if it is a zombie apocalypse, it is an apocalypse for leftist zombies, those flesh eating monsters are getting their just desserts
  • Dec 13, 2019, 03:15 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    So once again the divisive forces of the left have been repulsed and change will happen. Boris Johnson will now lead the UK out of Europe and the democratic process has been upheld. The wishes of the majority will be implemented
    Very well said.
  • Dec 13, 2019, 06:01 PM
    talaniman
    You're both old enough to celebrate while you can, and enjoy yourself while it lasts.
  • Dec 13, 2019, 06:15 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You're both old enough to celebrate while you can, and enjoy yourself while it lasts.

    Tal, in both my country and the UK the forces of revisionism and socialism have been wiped out, the public are no longer interested in government control of their lives, they have learned what a crock it is, they are no longer yielding to bureaucrats. Such politicians are doing much navel gazing because they don't understand that the old class struggles have gone and that you oppose progress at your peril

    So yes I will celebrate for years to come
  • Dec 13, 2019, 07:52 PM
    Vacuum7
    Paraclete: The Brazilian President is really interesting.....he is unapologetic as he can be....a man's man....he is bent on eliminating the left in Brazil, too.

    After the true Marxist President in Mexico has buggered up that nation really badly, AND YOU KNOW HE WILL OVERREACH, they always do, Mexico will turn Right, too!

    Glorious days ahead! I would love to take a vacation one day where I could hop from one Right nation to another Right nation, just to get a flavor of the NEW EXAMPLE OF NATURAL LAW IN ACTION! The Laws Of Nature cannot be denied: Man will always come back to them, eventually! The left can never make that claim.
  • Dec 14, 2019, 01:03 AM
    paraclete
    There is no doubt rabid leftist policies have ruined some countries ; Venezuela is a case in point and look what going too far did for Greece. You cannot cure all social needs with government intervention because there are always those with their hand out so balance must ensue
  • Dec 14, 2019, 04:47 AM
    tomder55
    you see the way the Antifa goons took to the streets of London ? What the left won't tell you is that he defeated an anti-sematic goon .
  • Dec 14, 2019, 05:12 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Tal, in both my country and the UK the forces of revisionism and socialism have been wiped out, the public are no longer interested in government control of their lives, they have learned what a crock it is, they are no longer yielding to bureaucrats. Such politicians are doing much navel gazing because they don't understand that the old class struggles have gone and that you oppose progress at your peril

    So yes I will celebrate for years to come

    You know how that goes Clete, once you finally throw the bums out, you better produce or you get YOUR bums thrown out. Don't forget those lefties will still be around and have nothing better to do than throw rocks at YOU, and it's very easy to throw rocks when you're on the sidelines. You righties better get busy and deliver, or the worm can turn really fast if you don't.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    There is no doubt rabid leftist policies have ruined some countries ; Venezuela is a case in point and look what going too far did for Greece. You cannot cure all social needs with government intervention because there are always those with their hand out so balance must ensue

    You got the stick, talk is over, use it or lose it.
  • Dec 14, 2019, 05:23 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you see the way the Antifa goons took to the streets of London ? What the left won't tell you is that he defeated an anti-sematic goon .

    For whatever reason Corbin was seen as a lousy candidate whose support within his own party had been sliding for years.
  • Dec 14, 2019, 04:10 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You know how that goes Clete, once you finally throw the bums out, you better produce or you get YOUR bums thrown out. Don't forget those lefties will still be around and have nothing better to do than throw rocks at YOU, and it's very easy to throw rocks when you're on the sidelines. You righties better get busy and deliver, or the worm can turn really fast if you don't.

    You got the stick, talk is over, use it or lose it.

    you see Tal we are capable of delivering while the namby pamby left vacillates. On border policy, the conservatives acted and hey presto, the problem abated. In this country, the left has shown itself to be incapable of acting rationally on any form of climate policy but we have moved on, the take up of renewables is huge despite the backing off of government subsidies, no new power stations have been built and old ones decommissioned. this is called direct action where worthwhile projects are supported

    https://reneweconomy.com.au/australi...st-time-17935/

    You want to rock my roof, remember I can throw rocks too
  • Dec 14, 2019, 04:18 PM
    talaniman
    No Clete I meant you have the stick of power in your government so you can rock those lefties as much as you want. You misunderstood. No rocks from me today my Aussie friend but maybe after the fires are out. 8)
  • Dec 14, 2019, 05:39 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    No Clete I meant you have the stick of power in your government so you can rock those lefties as much as you want. You misunderstood. No rocks from me today my Aussie friend but maybe after the fires are out. 8)

    Yes we all hope for that, and yes, now and again, we do succeed in rocking those lefties. Ah, if it weren't for their fellow travellers. I fear the smoke is becoming too much, I have developed a cough [[8:(>
  • Dec 14, 2019, 10:18 PM
    Vacuum7
    Taliman: Corbin was a lousy candidate who was losing popularity in his own party JUST LIKE HILLARY CLINTON was a lousy candidate and was losing popularity within her own party.....but she ran and lost anyway!
  • Dec 14, 2019, 11:59 PM
    paraclete
    Yes History repeating itsself
  • Dec 15, 2019, 06:45 AM
    jlisenbe
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    HILLARY CLINTON was a lousy candidate
    Just about right. The election gave us the poorest choice between two mediocre candidates that I have seen in my lifetime. As it turned out, Trump has done well in some ways so good for that, but the addictive over-spending by the feds is still running out of control with no will being exhibited by either party to do anything about it. With the current crop of candidates for the dem nomination, HC will have some cause to feel a little better about herself once the next absolute loser gets the nomination.
  • Dec 15, 2019, 07:34 AM
    talaniman
    I think the UK was finally sick and tired of the political wrangling over Brexit and decided to throw the bums iin power out and give conservatives a true shot at resolving it. Don't really blame them for that.
  • Dec 15, 2019, 01:25 PM
    paraclete
    Yes some divisive forces have been vanquished
  • Dec 15, 2019, 04:28 PM
    talaniman
    They didn't get the job done so away with them and we'll see what the new crop brings
  • Dec 15, 2019, 05:34 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    They didn't get the job done so away with them and we'll see what the new crop brings

    Just, shame you don't think the same about your own crop of miscreates
  • Dec 15, 2019, 05:59 PM
    talaniman
    Start at the top and get rid of his miscreants! See I do feel the same. 8D
  • Dec 15, 2019, 08:16 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Start at the top and get rid of his miscreants! See I do feel the same. 8D

    No get rid of all miscreates
  • Dec 16, 2019, 07:15 AM
    talaniman
    Shame we have only miscreates to replace the miscreates with. What a daunting dilemna.
  • Dec 16, 2019, 04:05 PM
    paraclete
    yes it is
  • Dec 17, 2019, 08:11 AM
    talaniman
    No biggie Clete, not much has changed over the last few centuries. Same people different names.
  • Dec 17, 2019, 03:37 PM
    paraclete
    Tal, I think people are different now, much more focus on self
  • Dec 17, 2019, 03:47 PM
    talaniman
    Probably so. We haven't come very far up the evolutionary ladder just more stuff to play with when we get bored of self.
  • Dec 17, 2019, 04:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Tal, I think people are different now, much more focus on self
    I would agree completely with that.
  • Dec 18, 2019, 06:28 AM
    talaniman

    Tal, I think people are different now, much more focus on self

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I would agree completely with that.

    I have to agree with you both, but look around. The competition for resources is steep, and getting steeper, while the OPPORTUNITIES and options for those resources are scarce and getting scarcer. They just don't make as many bootstraps anymore. The line is long for where they do.
  • Dec 18, 2019, 11:35 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    while the OPPORTUNITIES and options for those resources are scarce and getting scarcer. They just don't make as many bootstraps anymore. The line is long for where they do.
    As much as I agreed with Clete's statement, I disagree with yours. This is the most amazing time of life to be alive in American history. There are jobs on practically every street corner. There is money to be made nearly everywhere you look. If a young person can't make it now, then they would have had no hope at all a hundred years ago. You might have to start off working two jobs. It won't be easy, but with a 3.5% unemployment rate, it's a workers market out there.
  • Dec 18, 2019, 01:29 PM
    talaniman
    Comparable with working two jobs are the working couples because they need to. I don't know if it's just a temporary situation or not, but clearly people need mo'money to survive. I also remember Reagan touting all those jobs and if you looked they were low wage jobs or those requiring exceptional skills. I know many school teachers working 2nd jobs to raise their kids which isn't an easy thing either since advancement in most areas are few and limited for the vast majority of workers.
  • Dec 18, 2019, 02:11 PM
    jlisenbe
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    which isn't an easy thing
    Kind of reminds me of the old parable about the man who complained about having no shoes until he met a man who had no feet. I've been that teacher working two jobs so I can speak of that, but I was raised to do what you had to do to support your family. It's not easy, but it's much better than no job at all. And I eventually worked my way into a principal's position. If you're looking for easy, then I can't help you.

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    advancement in most areas are few and limited for the vast majority of workers.
    I don't think that's true. I've seen it happen over and over again.
  • Dec 18, 2019, 02:30 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Kind of reminds me of the old parable about the man who complained about having no shoes until he met a man who had no feet. I've been that teacher working two jobs so I can speak of that, but I was raised to do what you had to do to support your family. It's not easy, but it's much better than no job at all. And I eventually worked my way into a principal's position. If you're looking for easy, then I can't help you.

    Been there done that myself, and I had ONE good job but stuff happens all the time like losing a furnace in the winter, or blowing an engine coming home from work, just to name a few things. I wouldn't know easy if it bit me in the face. Still don't! Just makes me grateful to find a good path, and the things along the way, and have a lot of empathy for those not as blessed as I obviously have been.

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    I don't think that's true. I've seen it happen over and over again.
    So have I JL, and seen some really bad stuff that can happen by accident or mistake and through no fault of some. Sometimes you can't help but empathize to some extent. Sometimes it's okay to take a hardcore stance, but not all the time with everybody.
  • Dec 18, 2019, 03:23 PM
    jlisenbe
    I'm all for being empathetic with your own money. I have done it on many occasions and I'm sure you have as well. It's when you want to be empathetic with someone else's money, and then want to feel like the very soul of charity for doing it, that I blow the whistle and call a foul.
  • Dec 18, 2019, 06:09 PM
    talaniman
    I have suggested many times you take that up with your state since they control the money, not the feds in Mississippi. You don't think you're going to tell Texas, or any other state what to do, do you? I respectfully submit JL, I don't think you can tell your fellow statesmen what to do.
  • Dec 18, 2019, 06:52 PM
    jlisenbe
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    I have suggested many times you take that up with your state since they control the money, not the feds in Mississippi. You don't think you're going to tell Texas, or any other state what to do, do you? I respectfully submit JL, I don't think you can tell your fellow statesmen what to do.
    Now that's funny. You think the feds don't control it? What do you think we're doing, going up to D.C. with a gun and doing an armed robbery? Of course they control it. They control all federal spending, so if you don't like us getting so much, ask them to change it. I'll be with you on that one.
  • Dec 18, 2019, 10:52 PM
    talaniman
    I don't care what you get JL, but why whine about it, just don't take it if it's so bad. What, do the feds hold a gun to your head and make you take the money? LOL, it's crazy hollering about people taking YOUR money while you take theirs.

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