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So much for the good ole fair and balanced ABC news.

ABC news anchor caught on hot mic claiming ABC spiked the Epstein story because, among other things, they were afraid they would not be able to get interviews with the Royal family. Wow. And all of this happened in 2016. Remember who was running for pres in 2016, and whose husband was alleged to be involved in the Epstein story? I wonder how many young girls were victimized in the intervening three years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoBKxN07b_k

That was on top of using fake combat footage off of Youtube and representing it as the Turkish attack in Syria. Pitiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf8PvDMPgI8

jlisenbe: WOW! Now the truth comes out! But its kind of like closing the barn door AFTER the cows got out....damage is done not by lying, this time, but by omission with extreme prejudice! Every time this kind of crap comes out, it just reinforces what all of us already know: The media is EXTREMELY BIASED.....anyone who says it isn't is only fooling themselves. This is not the way journalism is supposed to be, I don't believe.....Like I have said before, why can't it be "Just the fact, Ma'am"?

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The media is EXTREMELY BIASED.....anyone who says it isn't is only fooling themselves.

I agree.

so, you have just realised this, journalists are the product of a liberal education system, their thinking is compartmentalised, not only to sensationalise, but to push the liberal agenda

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so, you have just realised this,

We've only been saying it for years. Keep up!

Same could be said for conservative media also. Everyone seems to be biased one way or another. Should be interesting when public hearings start for the dufus impeachment inquiry next week. Almost as amazing as the way conservatives now blame Epstein on liberals, while staunchly defending the dufus as the evidence mounts for bribery, extortion, conspiracy, and of course obstruction.

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Same could be said for conservative media also.

It could be if a person could find an instance where conservative media purposely buried a story in the same way that ABC news did.

Anyone want to take a wild guess as to how much coverage CNN and MSNBC have given this story? Anyone want to take a guess as to how much coverage they would have given it if it had been FoxNews that did it?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

It could be if a person could find an instance where conservative media purposely buried a story in the same way that ABC news did.

The reporter said the story couldn't be verified in the first place and in the second you raised all kinds of sand when they had no evidence on Kavanaugh.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Anyone want to take a wild guess as to how much coverage CNN and MSNBC have given this story? Anyone want to take a guess as to how much coverage they would have given it if it had been FoxNews that did it?

About as much as the dufus stuff that's been buried in magazine vaults and no tell what Fox buries that's bad news for the dufus. You wingers sure love to make hay over stuff and ignore your own.

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The reporter said the story couldn't be verified in the first place and in the second you raised all kinds of sand when they had no evidence on Kavanaugh.

That's not what they told the reporter three years ago. Listen to the video. They didn't want to offend the royal family. What they are saying now is about what you would expect a guilty party to say.

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About as much as the dufus stuff that's been buried in magazine vaults and no tell what Fox buries that's bad news for the dufus.

Fine. Tell us what stories they have buried.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

That's not what they told the reporter three years ago. Listen to the video. They didn't want to offend the royal family. What they are saying now is about what you would expect a guilty party to say.

That's what she is saying now, and if they didn't want to run an article smearing some one without EVIDENCE what's the problem?

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Fine. Tell us what stories they have buried.

We know for FACT the dufus story about paying a porn star to keep her quiet was bought and buried before the election. Guess that's not the same thing though.

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and if they didn't want to run an article smearing some one without EVIDENCE what's the problem?

I don't know why. They endlessly ran accusations against Kavanaugh with no more evidence than they had in this case, which was the testimony of a woman who said she was a victim, except that in her case, according to the video, she actually had pictures. Dr. Ford had nothing other than a suspiciously faulty memory.

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We know for FACT the dufus story about paying a porn star to keep her quiet was bought and buried before the election

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How do you know that? Are you suggesting the media did that? If so, what is your evidence?

Let's cut the crap and stop playing dumb. What you ain't playing dumb?

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National enquirer buried 60 damaging stories about donald trump before election, ronan farrow claims

So you are seriously suggesting that the National Enquirer would bury big time news like that? And you say because someone named Ronan Farrow said so? That's all you've got? Man, that's pretty lame.

I suggest NOTHING since they admitted as much and MORE. This is old news you know.

OK. Fair enough. They should be thoroughly discredited and bashed. I would agree to that. So how about ABC news? Should they also be discredited?

No, but I question why the reporter didn't follow through on the story and gather evidence. That's her JOB. To be fair though not running a story because it was not corroborated is a good thing.

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No, but I question why the reporter didn't follow through on the story and gather evidence. That's her JOB. To be fair though not running a story because it was not corroborated is a good thing.

She didn't because she was not allowed to. No corroboration? Kind of like the wonderful corroboration they did NOT have with Kavanaugh?

Where is your evidence she was not ALLOWED to corroborate her story?

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Where is your evidence she was not ALLOWED to corroborate her story?

On the video it says she was not allowed to run the story by her bosses.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

On the video it says she was not allowed to run the story by her bosses.

The video is from Russian Television, an arm of the Kremlin.

ABC did the right thing demanding corroboration. Robach never provided it.

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Originally Posted by Athos

The video is from Russian Television, an arm of the Kremlin.

ABC did the right thing demanding corroboration. Robach never provided it.

It's a good example of right wing spin, as they never pass up a chance to bash the left, and feed each other red meat for the cause. They're good at it, and never quit!

The video came from an ABC source. It was filmed in studio and leaked by that person to Veritas, which has no connection with Russian anything. Funny how ABC wanted corroboration for that but not for the many unsupported stories they ran about Kavanaugh.

To continue the story, ABC notified CBS they suspected a former employee then employed by CBS, Ashley Bianco, to be the leaker, so CBS, in the day when we supposedly want to protect whistle blowers, then fired that person. Now it seems that she was not the leaker after all. Sue, Ashely, sue!! As they say, "The beat goes on."

Quote from the video. ""It was unbelievable what we had. Clinton, we had everything," Robach was caught saying. "I tried for three years to get it on to no avail." Yeah. I'm sure the fact that they "had" Clinton during the 2016 election had nothing to do with them spiking the story.

The ABC content is contained within the video linked. Splattered over the rear of the set is "RT America", that is Russian Television aka "America Pravda". There is even a warning posted below on YouTube advising RT is funded by the Russian government.

Project Veritas, founded by James O'Keefe with The Trump Foundation as a major supporter, is a far-right fringe organization with a reputation for doctoring videos and even creating conspiracies.

If Clinton had not been mentioned, (which might have been inserted by O'Keefe), I doubt you would have any interest in the issue.

Your conclusion simply reveals your hatred of all things Clinton.

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The ABC content is contained within the video linked. Splattered over the rear of the set is "RT America", that is Russian Television aka "America Pravda". There is even a warning posted below on YouTube advising RT is funded by the Russian government.

Here you go. Feel better? The video in question was run on RT and a number of other sites, but the video did not come from Russia. As for Veritas, it would not make any difference if they were communists. The video plainly shows that ABC squashed the story. I still wonder how many girls were victimized because of ABC's refusal. The story is not just about Veritas posting the video. The story is also about CNN, MSNBC, and others ignoring it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H-m01dou2Y&t=75s

I can tell you, with some authority: Conservatives, Right "Wingers", U.S. Veterans, Libertarians, Republican, Fascists, Christians, Russians, decent people all over, people from Arkansas, American patriots, some socialist, some Democrats, and a woman named Tulsi ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HATE MRS. CLINTON! I have a liberal friend in N.Y. State that cannot stand her guts! MRS. CLINTON IS WIDELY HATED AT HOME AND ABROAD!

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mrs. Clinton is widely hay hates at home and abroad!

She's not even close to the hatred generated by Trump at home and abroad.

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She's not even close to the hatred generated by Trump at home and abroad.

Quite possibly true.

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Originally Posted by Athos

She's not even close to the hatred generated by Trump at home and abroad.

HC got more Americans to vote for her than did the dufus, so that alone tells you that despite the right wing noise machine smearing her for decades she still is Americas choice between her and the dufus. The rules is the rules however, and it is what it is, but that has never shut up the right wing noise machine and it's left hating agenda, and ignore the words antics and behavior of the dufus despite the growing evidence he is a self enriching lying and conniving crook.

You wingers are loony if you expect us or anybody but your own to believe anything that you guys come up with without a whole lot more than exaggerated allegations and lunatic spin.

One more rant, she lost, get over it

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You wingers are loony if you expect us or anybody but your own to believe anything that you guys come up with without a whole lot more than exaggerated allegations and lunatic spin.

Especially when you have ABC news solidly in your corner.

I've been over HC's loss Clete, but that doesn't mean we let the dufus run roughshod and do whatever he wants. Especially MORE illegal stuff. The evidence mounts.

The hearsay, opinions, and second/third hand reports are indeed mounting up.

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The hearsay, opinions, and second/third hand reports are indeed mounting up.

All the videos and tweets of him bragging etc. don't count?

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All the videos and tweets of him bragging etc. don't count?

I'm not sure what you are referring to. Surely you don't think it's against the law to brag? Are you saying he has been bragging about breaking the law? If so, I'd like to see that.

W.G.: I did see a video of Joe Biden bragging about getting the Ukrainians to end their investigation of his son Hunter....that we did hear and see.

I really don't care: If Trump broke the law, and it can be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, he should leave Office of his own volition BEFORE DRAGGING THE COUNTRY THROUGH THE MUD.....If he did that, even people that dislike him would at least have a grain of respect for him....and if he did do the crime, and doesn't have the decency to leave office, no one should ever have any respect for him.

What I don't want to see is all this IMPEACHMENT stuff go off and the country become more polarized than it already is, if that is possible, and then have Trump never leave Office!: The whole purpose of this IMPEACHMENT action is to get Trump removed from Office and that, alone, connotes that the Democrats have enough of a case to make that happen......However, if they don't, and this is another form of the Russia Investigation, that got nowhere, then the Democrats should take a drubbing in Nov., '20 just for crying wolf again!

I remember Watergate clearly: It messed this country up for a long time! I just hope this one isn't a farce: We don't need it if it is. However, if it is not, we don't need Trump as POTUS!

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I've been over HC's loss Clete, but that doesn't mean we let the dufus run roughshod and do whatever he wants. Especially MORE illegal stuff. The evidence mounts.

You have laws, don't you. If he does something illegal you can impeach him. Unfortunately, it is not against the law to be stupid and show it in public, it is not against the law to be a braggart. It seems he may have overstepped over Ukraine

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Originally Posted by paraclete

You have laws, don't you. If he does something illegal you can impeach him.

WRONG! You offer yourself as some sort of expert on American law. Well, you sure got this one wrong. An illegal act is NOT required for impeachment.

Athos: You know it! If Trump did commit an IMPEACHABLE act, he can be IMPEACHED.....and HE SHOULD leave Office, if that happens.....there is just too much risk to the country to try and stay on as an ruptured duck at that point. I don't think he will leave if IMPEACHED but he should.

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W.G.: I did see a video of Joe Biden bragging about getting the Ukrainians to end their investigation of his son Hunter....that we did hear and see.

No you didn't. No such video exists. Did you make this up yourself or did you get it from a right-wing fringe website?

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beyond a shadow of a doubt, he should leave Office of his own volition BEFORE DRAGGING THE COUNTRY THROUGH THE MUD

It's already been proven beyond a shadow of doubt that he bribed Zelensky by offering $141 million in military supplies for Z's starting a phony investigation. The same action violated the law when Trump demanded dirt on his political opponent Joe Biden. Two sides of the same coin. Two violations.

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and this is another form of the Russia Investigation, that got nowhere

The Mueller investigation proved Trump obstructed justice ten times. That investigation is not dead yet.