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  • Oct 27, 2019, 10:23 PM
    Athos
    The Wanna-be Fascist Dictator in Public
    In Trump's FIRST general public appearance as president EVER, he was roundly booed at the World Series game. His facial reaction registered surprise, even shock.

    An inning later, the crowd chanted "Lock him up, lock him up".

    For Ukraine - bribery, wire fraud, conspiracy
    For Russia - obstruction of justice
    For Stormy Daniels payoff - campaign finance violations, conspiracy
    Many more possibilities
  • Oct 27, 2019, 10:26 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    In Trump's FIRST public appearance as president in three years, he was roundly booed at the World Series game. His facial reaction registered surprise, even shock.

    An inning later, the crowd chanted "Lock him up, lock him up".

    For Ukraine - bribery, wire fraud, conspiracy
    For Russia - obstruction of justice
    For Stormy Daniels payoff - campaign finance violations, conspiracy
    Many more possibilities

    Seriously, the crowd want to lock him up after his victory over ISIS, no sense of history
  • Oct 28, 2019, 02:45 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Seriously, the crowd want to lock him up after his victory over ISIS, no sense of history

    It wasn't Trump's victory. In fact, his abrupt withdrawal from Syria was what caused the military to advance its plans for Bagdadi. Trump's screw-up jeopardized those plans yet the idiot claimed credit for the raid's success.

    Unbelievably, he also claimed credit as the "only one" who knew about Osama Bin Laden and called for Osama Bin Laden to be killed well before the attack on the World Trade Center. In the height of stupidity, he said the facts were stated in his book. Well, it isn't hard to check a book and it turned out that Osama Bib Laden, well-known at the time, was NEVER called by Trump to be killed in his book.

    Trump continues to shock and amaze by his never-ending gross stupidity.
  • Oct 28, 2019, 05:11 AM
    paraclete
    Why are you shocked by anything he says?
  • Oct 28, 2019, 05:18 AM
    Vacuum7
    Athos: Well, you must admit, that this wasn't a surprise given the location: Trump was in D.C. and, next to U.C.@ Berkeley campus, you probably won't find a more left leaning area of the country.

    Athos, Trump had 28 U.S. Soldiers pulled out of Syria: How do we not know that this "withdrawal" was a part of a larger plan to "draw" the BagDaddy out of hiding so we could kill him?

    I am against U.S. involvement in Syria anyway: This action was never APPROVED BY CONGRESS, and that goes back to when Obama stuck U.S. military forces in there a while back: If the Congress didn't pass a resolution for their deployment to Syria, then their deployment is illegal.....do you not agree? Furthermore, I don't one U.S. Soldier to die protecting E.U. oil: Let the Europeans get up off their dead arses and prtect their own damned oil! If Trump want to get wide support, he should follow-through with his pledge of GETTING ALL U.S. MILITARY PERSONNEL OUT OF THE M.E.! This is a RUNNING SORE THAT WILL NEVER HEAL!
  • Oct 28, 2019, 06:58 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Athos: Well, you must admit, that this wasn't a surprise given the location: Trump was in D.C. and, next to U.C.@ Berkeley campus, you probably won't find a more left leaning area of the country.

    DC is filled with the fringe right-wing. You have it backwards.

    Quote:

    Trump had 28 U.S. Soldiers pulled out of Syria: How do we not know that this "withdrawal" was a part of a larger plan to "draw" the BagDaddy out of hiding so we could kill him?
    You can't be serious! Odd how you constantly defend and approve of Trump while declaring you don't support Trump. Is this your own little attempt at gaslighting?
  • Oct 28, 2019, 07:26 AM
    Vacuum7
    Athos: O.K., you got me, again, but I thought D.C. was decidedly left because all their lone House delegate is a Democrat and has been for as long as I remember...….wouldn't you say that while D.C. may have Right wing pockets that the majority of its inhabitants are of the left? Otherwise, how would they continue to put Democrats into office.....remember their crackhead smoking D.C. Mayor? He was Democrat and all successive mayors have been Democrat.

    Athos: I am just trying to look at ALL the potential possibilities of what may have transpired in the killing of the big terrorist.....sometimes these things can be very elaborate.....and, yes, I know its a stretch and probably DIDN'T happen this way but just can't rule it out completely.

    BTW, Athos: I still AM NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!
  • Oct 28, 2019, 01:00 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Athos: O.K., you got me, again,..........and, yes, I know its a stretch and probably DIDN'T happen this way ..............

    BTW, Athos: I still AM NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
  • Oct 28, 2019, 04:16 PM
    talaniman
    What difference does it make that a majority of DC votes democrat? That doesn't make them wrong because they lean left either. That's just the demographics of the area and indeed the whole country is one way or another, some are divided fairly even and ALL are Americans. Yeah one got caught smoking crack and went to jail but does that tarnish every dem?

    It should not and repub politician are corrupt and go to jail too. So said that to say as more is revealed about this getting the ISIS leader we can judge things better but keep in mind that gettin Bin Laden didn't end Al Qaeda, nor I doubt will Bagdaddy's death be the end of the Islamic States rather vast multi country network. They lost land and followers maybe, but have been scattered since we liberated the stronghold of these radical terrorists.
  • Oct 28, 2019, 05:23 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

    We need to modify that statement; if it looks like a dill, walks like a dill and quacks like a dill, it just might be Trump
  • Oct 28, 2019, 08:21 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    We need to modify that statement; if it looks like a dill, walks like a dill and quacks like a dill, it just might be Trump

    Or a sycophant, or defender, that swears he isn't! I find that fascinating.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 05:57 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Or a sycophant, or defender, that swears he isn't! I find that fascinating.

    You find the strangest things fascinating, personally I'm over the cult of Trump and the cult of not Trump
  • Oct 29, 2019, 07:09 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    DC is filled with the fringe right-wing. You have it backwards.
    You are the only person in the world who believes that. 90% of those "fringe right wing" people in D.C. voted for H.C. They don't call it "the swamp" for nothing. It could very well end up being a plus in the election. The fact that he is hated by the D.C. crowd is a good reason to vote for him.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 10:00 AM
    talaniman
    Factually DC has no senators or house reps so it has no delegates to the electoral college.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 11:38 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You are the only person in the world who believes that.

    That was in response to the claim that DC is second only to Berkely in it's radical left fringe.

    Everybody got that but you.

    The poster later changed the claim from "radical fringe" to "democratic voters". He admitted the hyperbole. Guess you missed that, too.

    Explaining about DC and its Democratic party leanings was done by Tal.

    Look before you leap.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 12:34 PM
    Vacuum7
    D.C. has s LONE delegate, Mrs. Eleanor Holmes Norton.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 01:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    D.C. has s LONE delegate, Mrs. Eleanor Holmes Norton.

    Eleanor Holmes Norton is an American politician serving as a non-voting Delegate to the United States House of Representatives, representing the District of Columbia. As a non-voting member, Norton may serve on committees as well as speak on the House floor; however, she is not permitted to vote on the final passage of any legislation. She is a member of the Democratic Party. (Wikipedia)
  • Oct 29, 2019, 01:54 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    D.C. has s LONE delegate, Mrs. Eleanor Holmes Norton.

    That is correct. She is a delegate to the House of Representatives. (See WG's post above).

    The Senate has no delegates from DC.

    The Electoral College has three delegates from DC. Rep. Norton is not one of them since, by law, a member of Congress cannot be a delegate to the Electoral College.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 03:47 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    That was in response to the claim that DC is second only to Berkely in it's radical left fringe.

    Everybody got that but you.

    The poster later changed the claim from "radical fringe" to "democratic voters". He admitted the hyperbole. Guess you missed that, too.

    Explaining about DC and its Democratic party leanings was done by Tal.

    Look before you leap.


    Your quote was, "DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Unless "filled" now means something like 5% full, then your comment is ridiculous. Write what you mean.

    Tal's explanation was to the effect that D.C. has no vote in the electoral college. That is not true. As you pointed out yourself, they have three, so why you would appeal to Tal's explanation is a mystery.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 05:06 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Your quote was, "DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Unless "filled" now means something like 5% full, then your comment is ridiculous. Write what you mean.

    Tal's explanation was to the effect that D.C. has no vote in the electoral college. That is not true. As you pointed out yourself, they have three, so why you would appeal to Tal's explanation is a mystery.

    As I said, you don't get it.

    And you got the wrong Tal post.

    I can't explain EVERYTHING to you.

    You have to learn to keep up. Or, if not, learn how to go back.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 06:07 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    As I said, you don't get it.

    And you got the wrong Tal post.

    I can't explain EVERYTHING to you.

    You have to learn to keep up. Or, if not, learn how to go back.
    "DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Learn how to write accurately, and you won't have to explain. Not complicated. But if you want to say that "filled with" actually meant there are very few right wingers in D.C. then fine with me.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 06:37 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Your quote was, "DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Unless "filled" now means something like 5% full, then your comment is ridiculous. Write what you mean.

    Tal's explanation was to the effect that D.C. has no vote in the electoral college. That is not true. As you pointed out yourself, they have three, so why you would appeal to Tal's explanation is a mystery.

    I stand corrected.
  • Oct 29, 2019, 07:10 PM
    jlisenbe
    No big deal. I had no idea myself.
  • Oct 30, 2019, 02:38 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    "DC is filled with the fringe right-wing." Learn how to write accurately, and you won't have to explain.

    Actually I DO have to explain since you still don't get it. This is my second time I'm telling you that. Learn how to read accurately. It's ok to misread something, but to do it after having the error explained to you is very Trump-like. The more you post, the more you take after your hero.

    Quote:

    But if you want to say that "filled with" actually meant there are very few right wingers in D.C. then fine with me.
    Groan. I give up.
  • Oct 30, 2019, 06:48 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Groan. I give up.
    If I was trying to defend your position, I'd give up, too. It's hopelessly absurd.
  • Oct 30, 2019, 07:24 AM
    talaniman
    Everybody knows that one right wing loony fringer makes more noise than 250,000 ordinary people so do the math, all you need is 10 fringers in DC to offset the whole population of normal folks. That's what Athos expressed! I concur. No need to defend that position just look at DC and the noise machine the dufus is running.

    I mean like DUH! How simple is that to understand? Well maybe for normal people but obviously not to fellow fringers'! You must be one of the dufus fringers! That's the only explanation for NOT understanding the math.
  • Oct 30, 2019, 01:59 PM
    paraclete
    Wait a minute your contention there are normal folks in DC
  • Oct 30, 2019, 02:18 PM
    talaniman
    Sure Clete, however I do have a few peeps who are borderline but for the most part they are as ordinary as you get.
  • Oct 30, 2019, 03:29 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Sure Clete, however I do have a few peeps who are borderline but for the most part they are as ordinary as you get.

    So Trump voters, then?
  • Oct 30, 2019, 03:37 PM
    talaniman
    You just want me to admit I have stark raving right wing loons in my family! Fine got a few, voted for the dufus, might not again, but you never know! You happy now?
  • Oct 30, 2019, 04:57 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Everybody knows that one right wing loony fringer makes more noise than 250,000 ordinary people so do the math, all you need is 10 fringers in DC to offset the whole population of normal folks. That's what Athos expressed! I concur. No need to defend that position just look at DC and the noise machine the dufus is running.
    Words cannot express how happy I am that I don't need explanations like that for my statements.
  • Oct 30, 2019, 05:12 PM
    talaniman
    That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Gimme a break willya? I've read your explanations for your positions too and I'm just as thrilled as you are.
  • Oct 30, 2019, 05:22 PM
    jlisenbe
    I've always said I like you because I never have trouble trying to figure out what you are saying. You also don't make a plain statement and then come back and try to represent it as being something entirely different. I tip my hat to ya!
  • Oct 30, 2019, 09:14 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I've always said I like you because I never have trouble trying to figure out what you are saying. You also don't make a plain statement and then come back and try to represent it as being something entirely different. I tip my hat to ya!


    Hey JL get over yourself, if you don't want the opinions of others there is a place you can go
  • Oct 31, 2019, 02:54 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Hey JL get over yourself, if you don't want the opinions of others there is a place you can go
    You might want to try taking your own advice before you start giving it to others.
  • Oct 31, 2019, 04:24 AM
    talaniman
    Ya gotta admit JL the dufus brough a lot of right wing fringers with him to the WH. It's being reported by the loony right if we dump the dufus, we get rid of those fringers too. What great incentive to get that lying, cheating bully! If we can just keep Vlad out of our business...!
  • Oct 31, 2019, 04:34 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Ya gotta admit JL the dufus brough a lot of right wing fringers with him to the WH. It's being reported by the loony right if we dump the dufus, we get rid of those fringers too. What great incentive to get that lying, cheating bully! If we can just keep Vlad out of our business...!
    That's fine if you want to believe that. He is certainly, in my view, trying to replace left wing loons with conservatives, but your observation is fair enough. My objection was to saying D.C. was "filled" with right wing individuals. Well, 90% of D.C. voted for Hillary, so that is plainly an incorrect statement. I get what he meant. I'm not sure how it became such a big deal. He sort of corrected himself so let's move on.
  • Oct 31, 2019, 05:31 AM
    talaniman
    Good enough, that brings us to the impeachment inquiry. After the investigation phase the public gets to see the goods and the dufus gets to explain himself. The rules to proceed get voted on today or sometimes this week. With baseball season over with, no doubt the media will focus on the lies the dufus tells and repubs squirming in their draws trying to answer questions, as the EVIDENCE is presented, if the economy doesn't fall, or nobody blows something up, or California burns up and falls in the sea.
  • Oct 31, 2019, 06:40 AM
    paraclete
    can't see Donald explaining himself any time soon
  • Oct 31, 2019, 06:43 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Good enough, that brings us to the impeachment inquiry. After the investigation phase the public gets to see the goods and the dufus gets to explain himself. The rules to proceed get voted on today or sometimes this week. With baseball season over with, no doubt the media will focus on the lies the dufus tells and repubs squirming in their draws trying to answer questions, as the EVIDENCE is presented, if the economy doesn't fall, or nobody blows something up, or California burns up and falls in the sea.
    Lots of circumstantial evidence and lots of second/third hand conjecture, but other than that the dems just don't have the goods.

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