Kamala Harris owns a gun but doesn’t want YOU to do so .
Bernie Sanders makes millions but doesn’t want YOU to do so
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez flies on planes but doesn’t want YOU to do so .
See the pattern?
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Kamala Harris owns a gun but doesn’t want YOU to do so .
Bernie Sanders makes millions but doesn’t want YOU to do so
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez flies on planes but doesn’t want YOU to do so .
See the pattern?
Is there anythink new in this. See a politician you see a liar
I note there is no denials
Nothing to deny. I amuse myself by letting conservatives think that the loudest voices are the only voices in the dem camp. I still wouldn't dismiss our youngsters as loonies though. Our freshmen class is smart as whips and very talented. Plus you guys love to exaggerate especially your party leader. Now that is a REAL loony!
Shouldn't you worry about old guard Nancy looking for a going away trophy, like the Dufus's head?
She won't because she knows that if they go for impeachment they lose the House.
Maybe NOT, if enough visual gets before the no reading public. Kids in cages don't help especially if it continues and more kids die, and they show all kinds of supplies in stock somewhere except where it's needed. They just uncovered a second dark sight about CBP agents. What's up with those guys?
ummm most people in the country want border control . Thousands cross the border .People are crossing the border in record numbers to get their turn in our concentration camps .What is the country supposed to do ? If as you claim that you don't want open borders then people illegally crossing the border have to be detained. But the truth is that the nut jobs above not only do they want open borders;But they all want to entice more of them here with the promise of free medical care . Common Tal raise your hand with the rest of the Dem field .
btw this is what the Dems call drinking out of the toilet .Standard equipment in detention centers .MeanwhileRep. Rashida Tlaib defends voting against $4.6 billion emergency border bill today on ABC .Money targeted to address your concerns .
https://qb-res.cloudinary.com/e_trim...als/220/220056
Dems want a secure border, and a humane process for asylum seekers which is LEGAL. Why does the right ignore that? What's illegal is the dufus breaking the law and creating this humanitarian crisis.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
https://supportkind.org/resources/fl...t-myth-v-fact/
So just send the proper resources to get this process going and get on with it without the cruel illegal drama the dufus and you righties are hollering about. The rest of your spin is irrelevant and as my friend JL says nothing but silly season politics.
So who turned the water off to the faucet part, and why? The money was sent so why nitpick at your favorite targets? More politics? Of course it is and everybody should get free healthcare not just those that can afford it, or barely can afford it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I think they are lying about drinking out of a toilet . AOC did not know how a garbage disposal worked . I imagine she saw the set up and said that the illegals were being forced to drink from a toilet.
not true . All their policies points to open borders including benefits for illegals and sanctuary cities and states . Beto and others have crossed the border to advise illegals how to sneak in.Quote:
Dems want a secure border,
They are not asylum seekers for reasons I've already stated . Asylum seekers migrate due to persecution. These people have tough economic situations .That does not qualify as a reason to seek asylum. But the Dems and their enabling NGOs spread the lie to these people that once they get here they will qualify for all United States freebees . It is the message of the left that is horribly inhumane because they are spreading falsehoods to these people and they are uprooting and making a very dangerous journey because of the left's lies .Quote:
asylum seekers
You mean the supporters of the 90 trillion dollar loony bin idea known as the Green New Deal???Quote:
I still wouldn't dismiss our youngsters as loonies though. Our freshmen class is smart as whips and very talented.
You mean this picture from the Obama admin???Quote:
Kids in cages
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She wasn't the only one there nor the only account but the only one you pick on. What of the other accounts that verify the valves were shut off? Pretty selective.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Wrong again. You just say Open Borders because you don't want to deal with humane Process or that asylum seeking is LEGAL. The law gets in your way.Quote:
not true . All their policies points to open borders including benefits for illegals and sanctuary cities and states . Beto and others have crossed the border to advise illegals how to sneak in.
If you had judges to adjudicate the claims then that would be different than just judging without due process. Guess it's easier your way. Still no excuse for breaking the law or jury rigging the system and claiming it's lawful. Keep hollering crazy stuff that only you righties believe.Quote:
They are not asylum seekers for reasons I've already stated . Asylum seekers migrate due to persecution. These people have tough economic situations .That does not qualify as a reason to seek asylum. But the Dems and their enabling NGOs spread the lie to these people that once they get here they will qualify for all United States freebees . It is the message of the left that is horribly inhumane because they are spreading falsehoods to these people and they are uprooting and making a very dangerous journey because of the left's lies .
You will have to deal with air water and soil quality sooner or later bud. Guess you haven't heard more coal companies and mining operations that are closing up. That's okay, maybe you should Google that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
[QUOTE}You mean this picture from the Obama admin???
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Didn't work.
90 tril over 20 years is a doubling of the national budget. I know it's popular to pretend that money grows on trees in D.C. but really, how do you plan on paying for a crazy plan like that??? It's an impossible, foolish, crazy proposal. Coal is progressively being replaced by natural gas which is cleaner and cheaper. Nothing to do with fed policy. Maybe you should google that.Quote:
You will have to deal with air water and soil quality sooner or later bud. Guess you haven't heard more coal companies and mining operations that are closing up. That's okay, maybe you should Google that.
I don't know why my attachments so frequently don't work, but here's another attempt at it.
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The kid thinks big I'll give her that but it's but one option and still in the big idea stage. The devil is in the details, and those I haven't seen so no reason to get excited. I'm sure there are other more viable plans and the likely hood hers bears fruit is NIL for now the way I see it. I'm sure other plans will come along. More fleshed out ones.
Naw the second attempt is a dud too. Copy and paste maybe? You know right click copy right click paste?
It's about on the level on me saying to my wife, "Honey, I think we need to buy the mansion in the middle of the town. It's only priced at two million dollars. We are about a million in debt now, and I have no earthly idea of how we could pay that. In fact, it's actually completely impossible that we could pay it, but after all, the devil is in the details, so there is no real reason to get excited about it."Quote:
The kid thinks big I'll give her that but it's but one option and still in the big idea stage. The devil is in the details, and those I haven't seen so no reason to get excited.
Copy and paste won't work. It did work at one time for me, but now it won't. I imagine the Russkies are behind it.
I think a better analogy would be your kid asking you for help with a down payment on a house and she will pay you back when she gets a job. In your analogy your wife would dismiss your big dream talk with a pat on the head, and tell you don't forget to take out the garbage in the mansion you're in.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Or you have computer maintenance issues. More and more online stuff has protected programs that prevent copy and paste. BUMMER!Quote:
Copy and paste won't work. It did work at one time for me, but now it won't. I imagine the Russkies are behind it.
@Tom. Good one so early in the morning. No line ups to adjust?
I have 3 days to work that out . It appears that our contest will not be decided until late Sunday afternoon.Quote:
No line ups to adjust?
https://www.commondreams.org/sites/d...?itok=L-e-svp4
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2rqjdNWoAAN6Ly.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2rq51hWoAgsvTh.jpg
You've seen the governments own pictures that everyone is so proud of haven't you?
So why are they all smiling in your pictures? Sure don't look miserable.
Since I can't seem to get copy/paste to work on this site, I'll just have to post the link. Obama's cages.
http://static4.businessinsider.com/i...9246232474.jpg
We don't deny the cages, which sure look cleaner and more sanitary than the dufus cages wouldn't you say?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dhs-k...b01b834738b4b9
I hate having to go back and edit every freaking link I paste!!
So that's the answer? "Yes, Obama also had cages, but his seemed to be cleaner and more sanitary." That's very reassuring. Well, at least you are admitting he had them. Honestly, the cages are simply detention areas that have been thrown up by people who were suddenly hit with unanticipated numbers of illegals. I imagine they are doing the best they can. I would think there have been some unfortunate lapses of judgement, but on the whole the people are being treated in an acceptable manner. They are fed and housed in what seems to be a safe environment and on a temporary basis. Just look at the smiling faces in your pictures. They sure didn't look unhappy to me.Quote:
We don't deny the cages, which sure look cleaner and more sanitary than the dufus cages wouldn't you say?
At least you have figured out the copy/paste deal. You're ahead of me.
And the slaves were happy being slaves because they sang in the feilds. Come on man. Obama did away with the cages and found a better way than packing people in cages like nasty sardines but the dufus brought back that failed policy. If that's all the humane we can expect it's hard to give him any credit for an overwhelming situation. His F stands in my book handling this and other situations until he does better. MUCH better I may add.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obam...ry?id=41715661Quote:
Obama did away with the cages and found a better way
You'd think you guys would have appreciated that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Just because they aren't being put up in the Hilton doesn't mean they are not being handled in an acceptable manner. The smiles on their faces tends to work against your narrative that their situation is miserable.
I do . Wish Trump would do more deportations . He said he would ;but in the interest of 'bipartisanship' ,he backed off . That was a mistake .As you know ;the Dems have no intention to cooperate at the border .Quote:
You'd think you guys would have appreciated that.
You've said that twice now, but the slaves were happy being slaves because they sang in the fields? Come on man. Maybe the dufus should put them up in a luxury hotel of his and make Mexico pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I wouldn't cooperate with the dufus or duficans on anything either. Just past history redux.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
You've said that twice now, but the slaves were happy being slaves because they sang in the fields? Come on man. Maybe the dufus should put them up in a luxury hotel of his and make Mexico pay for it.
These people are not slaves and they are not singing in the fields. They are smiling in pictures that you posted supposedly showing their terrible living conditions. Most people in misery don't smile for pictures.
I think making Mexico pay for it is a great idea.
Geez JL, so we should just ignore the dufus IG report that flagged the detention facilities as lousy places months ago?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/1660455001/
Here's the report
https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/defaul...-51-Jul19_.pdf
I read through the report. Sounds like overcrowding as a result of a large influx of illegals. Other than complaints such as not having access regularly to showers, having to eat sandwiches rather than hot meals, or not having sufficient access to clean clothes, they all seemed to be safe and fed. It is a short term discomfort, unfortunate but far from lethal. There are no allegations of sexual or physical assaults as was alleged on this board a week ago. No allegations of people eating frozen food. I'm certain the democrats in Congress will rapidly move to expand funding to alleviate these problems.
I hope you read the response from CBP and ICE at the end of the report. I wish I could copy and paste sections but it won't allow it for some reason. Probably a Russian plot.
There have been allegations of sexual abuse even though it's not in the report, as well as the mistreatment of migrants and other incidents of cruelty. Matter of fact, new allegations have surfaced in another detention camp in Arizona, so we just have to see how that pans out. I can agree that the current situation has been caused by the increase in migrants but the dufus has been hollering they were coming long enough to be not only better prepared, but expecting it, seeing as this is a typical yearly seasonal occurrence going back decades. The trend has also been to see decreased migration patterns as the summer gets going.
If the trends hold that will ease the current situation if the dufus gets on with a timely humane process. I find it telling, cruel, and sad, the situation was allowed to get where it is, resources not appropriated in a timely or orderly fashion, and is being politicized the way it is. Another F for the Dufus's handling of the whole thing.
In the meantime, dozens of homicides occur every week in liberal, democrat strongholds. No one cares. No one protests Now if an illegal immigrant has to eat a sandwich in place of a hot meal, or if they have to wear the same clothes for a week, then we need to raise heck about that.Quote:
If the trends hold that will ease the current situation if the dufus gets on with a timely humane process. I find it telling, cruel, and sad, the situation was allowed to get where it is, resources not appropriated in a timely or orderly fashion, and is being politicized the way it is. Another F for the Dufus's handling of the whole thing.
I think you live in a strange world. I suspect that if this was occurring under Obama, you'd be OK with it. And, of course, it did, in fact, occur with Obama as the pics prove.
You don't care about homicides in dem strong holes either. No more than you care about the allegations and charges of abuse neglect and crimes in government detention centers. Nor about the VA backlog, or the suicide crisis and neither do you care about the abuse of minorities in your own back yard choosing incarceration over evaluation and blaming the DOJ for calling you on it.
I live in a strange world? I guess I do since yours seems quite bizarre to me.
Strange that I'm the only one who brings it up, isn't it?Quote:
You don't care about homicides in dem strong holes either.
And again, it would not be talked about on this board at all if I didn't bring it up. The VA backlog is an Obama scandal that, since it doesn't involve Trump, you just seem to choose to ignore.Quote:
No more than you care about the allegations and charges of abuse neglect and crimes in government detention centers. Nor about the VA backlog, or the suicide crisis and neither do you care about the abuse of minorities in your own back yard choosing incarceration over evaluation and blaming the DOJ for calling you on it.
My point, of course, is that most of us practice some selective outrage. I don't put anyone on this board on the high moral pedestal because they claim to be concerned about the southern border. Maybe we should have some non-partisan discussions about what should actually be done to solve these problems.
Tal, have you noticed that it seems to have come down to the two of us trying to uphold the conversations about important national matters? I think we should get a medal of some sort.
What a concept! Maybe I'd return.Quote:
Maybe we should have some non-partisan discussions about what should actually be done to solve these problems.
One can only hope.Quote:
Maybe I'd return.
Bipartisanship, you will be proposing concensus next
Nonpartisan, not bipartisan. Not the same thing, but I would hope we would be able to come up with some common sense proposals supported by both parties.
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