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  • Jun 19, 2019, 06:44 PM
    Wondergirl
    Hold on to your hat! 4th of July excitement!
    From USA Today:

    Today [Wednesday, 06/19/19] the Trump administration announced plans for a unique July Fourth celebration – a made-for-TV event starring President Donald J. Trump.

    Trump will deliver a speech from the Lincoln Memorial as part of a daylong series of events that includes a military-themed parade near the National Mall and flyovers featuring planes used for Air Force One, officials said.

    “There is no more appropriate place to celebrate the anniversary of American independence than among the Nation’s monuments on the National Mall and the memorials to the service men and women who have defended the United States for the past 243 years,” Interior Secretary David Bernhardt said in a statement.

    Trump's address at the Lincoln Memorial, to be delivered at a "Salute to America" event at 6:30 p.m. on Independence Day, is designed "to honor America’s armed forces," the Interior Department said.

    The president, who pushed for new July Fourth events based on a military parade he saw in France, promoted the new holiday approach during his speech Tuesday announcing his re-election bid. He urged supporters in Orlando, Florida, to bring flags to the event.

    Critics of the idea say it would turn a popular holiday tradition into a political rally. They question how the Trump-inspired events will affect traditional Fourth of July programs such as the annual concert on Capitol Hill featuring various entertainers and the National Symphony orchestra.

    "Our founders were ready to give their lives for this country and that's what we celebrate on the Fourth of July," Democratic strategist Jesse Ferguson said. "Donald Trump wants to basically cancel the nonpartisan celebration of America and force us to celebrate him, instead."

    The administration listed the traditional "Capitol Fourth Concert" on the west lawn of the Capitol as one of the holiday events. It is now joined by others that include:
    1) a "National Independence Day parade" to run 10 blocks along Constitution Avenue, which parallels the National Mall. It will feature marching bands, fife and drum corps, floats, military units, giant balloons, equestrian, and drill teams.
    2) a "Salute to America" at the Lincoln Memorial in which Trump " leads a celebration of America’s military with music, military demonstrations and flyovers," according to the Interior Department.
    3) the traditional fireworks display, the launch for which has been moved to West Potomac Park and behind the Lincoln Memorial.

    Trump has tweeted: "HOLD THE DATE! We will be having one of the biggest gatherings in the history of Washington, D.C., on July 4th. It will be called 'A Salute To America' and will be held at the Lincoln Memorial. Major fireworks display, entertainment and an address by your favorite President, me!"
  • Jun 19, 2019, 08:50 PM
    paraclete
    another REALLY, REALLY, BIG PHOTO OP starring the biggest mouth in America
  • Jun 20, 2019, 05:27 AM
    talaniman
    Free food? Catered by McDonalds paid for by taxpayers?
  • Jun 20, 2019, 01:44 PM
    tomder55
    I don't like it .Besides stroking his ego the only real purpose of this is to get higher Trump Hotel fees for the week. Most hotels in DC have vacancies that run about $400 . Trumps hotel is sold out the 3rd and 4th at prices that more than double the average .
  • Jun 22, 2019, 03:42 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I don't like it .Besides stroking his ego the only real purpose of this is to get higher Trump Hotel fees for the week. Most hotels in DC have vacancies that run about $400 . Trumps hotel is sold out the 3rd and 4th at prices that more than double the average .


    I don't like it either. The guy is completely classless, and will do anything for a buck.

    This country is paying for its sins - African slavery, Native American genocide, and now concentration camps for children - the last one dictated by Trump.
  • Jun 22, 2019, 05:44 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    I don't like it either. The guy is completely classless, and will do anything for a buck.

    This country is paying for its sins - African slavery, Native American genocide, and now concentration camps for children - the last one dictated by Trump.


    They had to do something with those FEMA camps, why not home the homeless and destitute?
  • Jun 22, 2019, 06:08 PM
    tomder55
    another myth .there are no FEMA camps. As for 'concentration camps for children';I just addressed it in the appropriate posting .

    The French celebrate Bastile Day with marshall parades . That is not the American way . Anyone with an ounce of sense leaves DC for the beaches on the 4th of July holiday.
  • Jun 22, 2019, 06:45 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    This country is paying for its sins - African slavery, Native American genocide, and now concentration camps for children - the last one dictated by Trump.
    Not to mention tens of millions of abortions, a government fostered abandonment of family structure, and tens of trillions of dollars of government debt.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 06:13 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Not to mention tens of millions of abortions, a government fostered abandonment of family structure, and tens of trillions of dollars of government debt.

    Interesting priorities!

    I would have expected nothing else from you.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 06:30 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Interesting priorities!
    Yep. Human lives are a great priority. Families are a great priority. Not bringing about the bankruptcy of our country is a great priority. You can be sure to expect a concern for these issues from me.

    Your concern was for two issues that were effectively ended over a century ago and one issue that is a complete fabrication. There are no concentration camps. I would suggest you shift your concerns to current issues that are real problems.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 06:51 AM
    talaniman
    This is what we get for electing a corrupt business man to the White House because we want to end abortions, and more conservative judges while we victimize poor women and children, especially those who brave a long perilous journey running from deplorable dangerous conditions only to be treated like animals.

    Your Christian values suck!
  • Jun 23, 2019, 07:06 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    we victimize poor women and children, especially those who brave a long perilous journey running from deplorable dangerous conditions only to be treated like animals.
    Are you talking about the people who are illegally crossing our southern border and who are being treated in the same manner as Obama treated them?

    Build the wall and we stop this nonsense. I'm all for treating people with kindness, but when your border is being overrun with people who are breaking the law, then it becomes a very difficult situation.

    Your position is the typical liberal one. You are all in favor of someone else helping these people.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 09:01 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Are you talking about the people who are illegally crossing our southern border and who are being treated in the same manner as Obama treated them?

    Seeking asylum is LEGAL...and you would know that if you read the LAW and I provided you a link long ago.

    Quote:

    Build the wall and we stop this nonsense. I'm all for treating people with kindness, but when your border is being overrun with people who are breaking the law, then it becomes a very difficult situation.
    See above, the law hasn't been broken, implementing the process provided by the law is what's broken.

    Quote:

    Your position is the typical liberal one. You are all in favor of someone else helping these people.
    If following our laws is liberal okay I'm a liberal. I find it fascinating that migrants know our laws better than some of our fellow citizens and that's a shame. Yes I am in favor of our government helping people who need it as a collective society, whether you right wing religious loons like it or not. Your charity helps a few maybe but mine can help many and is not limited to discriminatory inadequate practice and policy, though I will admit there is room for improvement.

    We should certainly be doing better as a country despite the huge challenges we face.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 09:29 AM
    waltero
    Quote:

    Your Christian values suck!
    Oppose to (relying on the moral judgments of Ph.D.'s and Oscar winners)?

    Quote:

    We should certainly be doing better as a country despite the huge challenges we face.

    As technology advances, so, too, does the shading of moral choices that used to seem black or white.

    Jesus is our only hope.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 10:01 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    Oppose to???

    relying on the moral judgments of Ph.D.'s and Oscar winners.

    No just my own opinion, mostly observation of words and deeds. There is no room for me to condone the abuse and oppression of those that can least resist such tactics.

    [QUOTEAs technology advances, so, too, does the shading of moral choices that used to seem black or white.[/QUOTE]

    I sort of see your point. However I do think we have the technology now to do the right thing for humans in need.

    Quote:

    Jesus is our only hope.
    Jesus IS HOPE, but not the ONLY hope, as one can still find the path of Good Orderly Direction whether you believe in Jesus or not, but his example is one that can be emulated.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 11:45 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Seeking asylum is LEGAL...and you would know that if you read the LAW and I provided you a link long ago.
    I am aware of that, but I understand that most of those seeking asylum are really just seeking entrance. They full well know that the crazy laws we have makes seeking asylum an avenue into illegal entrance. 90% of them never show up for the hearing.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 11:53 AM
    talaniman
    Hmm, since you saw all this coming, you should have been ready with food water and judges to speed up the process. Problem solved! No cages needed! Of course then the dufus and guys like you wouldn't have much to beetch about and thump your chests in self righteous indignation at some helpless poor people. Throw in a few more bucks you could help Mexico feed and shelter a few kids and women, and look like compassionate thoughtful CHRISTIANS!
  • Jun 23, 2019, 11:58 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Hmm, since you saw all this coming, you should have been ready with food water and judges to speed up the process.
    Yeah, like your beloved Mr. Obama had eight years to see this coming and what did he do? If you say, "basically nothing", then you get to go to the front of the line. This blind love of all things Obama and blind hatred of all things Trump really gets kind of old. A little objectivity would be refreshing.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 12:05 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    blind hatred of all things Trump really gets kind of old..

    The hatred of Obama is all yours. OWN IT!
  • Jun 23, 2019, 12:07 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    The hatred of Obama is all yours. OWN IT!
    I am happy to own my resistance to the king of abortion, deficit spending, political lying, and governmental scandal. I don't hate the man, but I despised many of his policies.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 12:08 PM
    talaniman
    You guys love the child and cruel human abuse by your dufus. Just admit it!
  • Jun 23, 2019, 12:10 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't hate the man, but I despised many of his policies.

    Yeah, we've all heard that before - "I don't hate the sinner, I hate the sin". What a crock!
  • Jun 23, 2019, 12:13 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Yeah, we've all heard that before - "I don't hate the sinner, I hate the sin". What a crock!
    What an amazing ability you have to read minds.
  • Jun 23, 2019, 12:15 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    What an amazing ability you have to read minds.

    I don't like to brag about it, but you have made your first good insight.
  • Jul 4, 2019, 02:08 AM
    tomder55
    military hardware beginning to assemble in DC for the parade .
    https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-4450-1.jpg
  • Jul 4, 2019, 05:57 AM
    paraclete
    Yes tanks in the streets, over stuffed Generals everywhere, but everyone loves a parade, but while Trump marches down Pennsylvania Avenue with yesterday's weapons the Chinese unveil their carrier or even fleet busters
  • Jul 4, 2019, 07:05 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    yesterday's weapons the Chinese unveil their carrier or even fleet busters
    Uhm...carriers aren't exactly the latest thing to come along.
  • Jul 4, 2019, 04:03 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Uhm...carriers aren't exactly the latest thing to come along.

    perhaps you missed it in the excitement of the Trump event

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/03/pentagon-condemns-disturbing-chinese-missile-tests-in-south-china-sea.html[/FONT]
  • Jul 4, 2019, 08:01 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Uhm...carriers aren't exactly the latest thing to come along.
    Quote:

    perhaps you missed it in the excitement of the Trump event
    What does a missle system article have to do with your comment about China building a carrier?
  • Jul 4, 2019, 08:50 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    What does a missle system article have to do with your comment about China building a carrier?

    comprehension, dear boy, I said carrier buster
  • Jul 5, 2019, 04:38 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    the Chinese unveil their carrier or even fleet busters
    Simple grammar, dear boy. You very plainly referred to TWO things, a carrier and a "fleet buster". Don't they teach grammar in Aussie land? Either that, or you need to learn to write more clearly.
  • Jul 5, 2019, 06:18 AM
    paraclete
    semantics like statistics the lair of the scoundrel
  • Jul 6, 2019, 03:04 PM
    tomder55
    Trump embarrased himself by claiming colonial troops seized the airports .He later claimed his teleprompter went out . So he immediately went into a school house rock version of the history of the armed forces. The military hardware did not participate in the parade . Twitter went viral with memes of Washington commanding troops at airports .https://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/2...rAirports2.jpg
  • Jul 6, 2019, 06:20 PM
    talaniman
    I told you he is a dufus! Believe me now?
  • Jul 6, 2019, 06:40 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yeah. Unfortunately he is not like "I've been to all 57 states" President Obama.
  • Jul 7, 2019, 07:26 AM
    talaniman
    Of course you righties equate a funny gaff with the revolutionary army capturing airports. I suppose you had to find something to blame Obama for to keep the dufus from looking downright stupid.

    Again you FAIL to prove that my assessment of him being a lying, cheating dufus is accurate or just name calling. I think the evidence is on my side, and you have NONE on yours.
  • Jul 7, 2019, 12:11 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Of course you righties equate a funny gaff with the revolutionary army capturing airports.
    Funny how when a lib says something stupid, it's a "funny gaffe", but when Trump says something dumb (like he really believes there were airports in the 18th century), then he's a lying, cheating dufus.

    What a convenient approach for you.
  • Jul 7, 2019, 12:23 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Funny how when a lib says something stupid, it's a "funny gaffe", but when Trump says something dumb (like he really believes there were airports in the 18th century), then he's a lying, cheating dufus.

    What a convenient approach for you.

    No, he's a lying, cheating dufus for other reasons, not for those. That addition to his speech only shows how stupid he is.
  • Jul 7, 2019, 12:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    Very rare for a "stupid" person to build a billion dollar business. Thankfully he knows how many states are in the country.
  • Jul 7, 2019, 12:55 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Very rare for a "stupid" person to build a billion dollar business. Thankfully he knows how many states are in the country.

    He didn't. He inherited money that he carefully and frequently lost in business deals and business ventures. And what??? No comments about Hillary??? What are you smokin', Willis?

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