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Time to investigate collusion

Now that Mueller has finished his investigation, it’s time to investigate the people who have entangled America in an attempted silent coup,
Bruce Ohr ,Lisa Page ,Peter Strzok ,James Comey ,Loretta Lynch ,John Brennan, the emperor ,Evita .

Was there collusion with a campaign and a foreign government ? Apparently ..The question ;did the Ukraine government attempt to collude with the Democrats to influence the election in favor of Evita ?

Ukraine’s top prosecutor, General Yurii Lutsenko, said in an interview that he has opened an investigation into whether his country’s law enforcement agency intentionally leaked financial records during the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign about Paul Manafort in an effort to sway the election in favor toEvita
The leak of the files to U.S. media prompted Manafort’s resignation from the Trump campaign and gave rise to one of the key allegations in the Russia collusion probe .There has already been a court ruling in Ukraine that the leak amounted to “an illegal intrusion into the American election campaign” .

Lutsenko said the tape recording is a serious enough allegation to warrant opening a probe, and one of his concerns is that the Ukrainian law enforcement agency involved had frequent contact with the Obama administration’s U.S. Embassy in Kiev at the time.

Don't you think enough already. These matters were know to Meuller or are you saying it is outside his terms of reference

this is all new revelations . The old news everyone continues to ignore was the Clinton Russia connection and why the Russians would've preferred Evita as President instead of Trump (see
the Skolkovo and Uranium One projects
while Bubba was making $500,000 speeches in Russia ).
But this
Lutsenko probe is new .

Should we wait for the results of the Mueller report and the OTHER investigations to be revealed before we move back to repub right wing conspiracy theories. Oh, I guess you read it already. What did it say?

I know there are no more indictments . Those not indicted include Don Jr ;Jared ,and the President . I know NO ONE was indicted for conspiring with the Russians to hack/steal/influence (I love that phony charge) the election .He didn't even get Carter Page ;who I though would've been the obvious sacrificial lamb. He's closed it down without even getting some kind of confession from Roger Stone about a Wikleaks connection .It has been absolutely fascinating watching the Dems cope with the fact that not one American has been indicted for conspiring with the Russians over the elections . Some like Rachel Madcow were reduced to tears . You are not the first one to cling to the hope that there is something in the report that we haven't seen yet.
I don't blame you .You have heard 2 +years of bull sh+te from the progressive echo chamber media out of MSNBC and CNN and you bought into it as the only way Trump would've and could've won the election . I mean it was only 2 weeks or so ago that the commie traitor ex CIA boss John Brennan was swearing on MSNBC that he knew more indictments were upcoming . How could you not believe a confessed liar like him ? But the Slimes reported before Mueller handed in his report that there were no more indictments and their source was a senior Justice Dept official . You can't pretend the facts away .

My post is not 'conspiracy theory' . I posted the fact that a Ukraine prosecutor has opened up an investigation into the fact that a member of the Ukraine government deliberately leaked financial records of Paul Manafort to influence the US election in favor of Evita . As mentioned . Manafort was forced from his position in the Trump campaign shortly after their release .

We can only wait and see if more indictments are forthcoming, maybe not by Mueller, but he has also farmed out a lot of investigations and details to other jurisdictions. We both know its far from over, and dems have 2 years of repub obstruction to the truth to overcome.

Truth, what is truth?

he did not outsource his mission ;to determine if there was a conspiracy by Trump with the Russians.

A conspiracy to do what? Build a hotel?

It wasn't confined to the dufus, but was about Russian election interference, and ANYBODY who may have aided them, wittingly, or unwittingly. Be interesting to se the report, but I no telling how long that will take. Even the dufus for the first time in a LONG time has kept his big mouth shut.

Let’s hope once the Mueller red herring has been reeled in, the press will start doing its job again and get to the bottom of the FBI’s deranged actions in the 2016 race. But I know that is going to happen The Dems are so deranged that they are likely to try to file charges against Mueller .If I were Mueller I would decline their 'invitation ' to testify . If he does then he's likely to be dragged into the political muck of the swamp. I hope the report Is released as well as all the underlying intelligence behind the original investigation ;as well as the unedited copied of the FISA warrants . For now ; Pathfinder Adam Schiff swears he saw evidence of collusion. Let him put his cards on the table . But he won't because he is a steaming pile of green pooh ;the kind Beto feeds to his wife .

How do you think this is going to play out? Does anybody, other than the Democrats really care??? Tis enjoyable to watch everybody work themselves into a frenzy. Carry on...

No there is no reason to be concerned about the Ukraine, no Muslims there

It is not about Muslims . It is about what happened while the dirty tricksters in the emperor's administration were creating a phony case to justify 1st spying on a political foe in an election ,and then attempting to unseat him in a silent coup when he won the election .
How the Manafort black ledger files got leaked to American media has never been solved. They surfaced two years after the FBI investigated Manafort over his Ukraine business activities but declined to move forward in 2014 for lack of evidence.
Christopher Steele began his "research"that became the dossier with a series of conversations with top DOJ official Bruce Ohr about finding something on Manafort .

The FBI set up shop in the U.S. embassy in Kiev to assist its Manafort inquiry.
And we know Evita's campaign was paying for Steele's work for Fusion GPS at the same time Steele was aiding the FBI.
(Ohr's wife Nellie was employed by Fusion GPS ,and funneled the information Steele accumulated to her husband ).

It all began in Ukraine .

If Ukraine law enforcement figures who worked frequently with the U.S. Embassy did leak the Manafort documents in an effort to influence the American election for Evita, the public deserves to know who knew what, and when.

Lutsenko accused the U.S. Embassy in 2016 of interfering in his ability to prosecute corruption cases, saying the U.S. ambassador gave him a list of defendants that he would not be allowed to pursue and then refused to cooperate in an early investigation into misappropriation of U.S. aid in Ukraine.(hmmm where have we heard that allegation before where the Clintons are involved ? ) The intersection of all these facts is not a coincidence. This definitely deserves at least the same scrutiny as was given to the allegations of Trump/Russia collusion.

I think it is a real question what the FBI was doing in the Ukraine, didn't know it is within their jurisdiction. Just another case of US interference in the affairs of a soveriegn nation. It is no wonder the Russians are paranoid

lol cant tell you how many times I've had interaction and audits with your TGA . Do you think your AFP doesn't operate over seas ?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

It is not about Muslims . It is about what happened while the dirty tricksters in the emperor's administration were creating a phony case to justify 1st spying on a political foe in an election ,and then attempting to unseat him in a silent coup when he won the election .
How the Manafort black ledger files got leaked to American media has never been solved. They surfaced two years after the FBI investigated Manafort over his Ukraine business activities but declined to move forward in 2014 for lack of evidence.
Christopher Steele began his "research"that became the dossier with a series of conversations with top DOJ official Bruce Ohr about finding something on Manafort .

The FBI set up shop in the U.S. embassy in Kiev to assist its Manafort inquiry.
And we know Evita's campaign was paying for Steele's work for Fusion GPS at the same time Steele was aiding the FBI.
(Ohr's wife Nellie was employed by Fusion GPS ,and funneled the information Steele accumulated to her husband ).

It all began in Ukraine .

If Ukraine law enforcement figures who worked frequently with the U.S. Embassy did leak the Manafort documents in an effort to influence the American election for Evita, the public deserves to know who knew what, and when.

Lutsenko accused the U.S. Embassy in 2016 of interfering in his ability to prosecute corruption cases, saying the U.S. ambassador gave him a list of defendants that he would not be allowed to pursue and then refused to cooperate in an early investigation into misappropriation of U.S. aid in Ukraine.(hmmm where have we heard that allegation before where the Clintons are involved ? ) The intersection of all these facts is not a coincidence. This definitely deserves at least the same scrutiny as was given to the allegations of Trump/Russia collusion.

Repubs had years to launch investigations ask questions and get to the truth in the area of which you refer to, so the whole notion of just dropping any and all investigations of the dufus is really absurd, and going after Obama, or Hillary... AGAIN. Now of course if repubs keep the senate and dems lose the house in 2020 you get another bite at the apple. I also think a victory lap and suggestion that the dufus has been cleared of "collusion" with Russia is premature, and obviously WH lawyers have told him to shut the hell up until we all find out what is really in Mueller's report.

Be wise for everybody to follow that suggestion, and keep in mind the other jurisdictions that have ongoing investigations.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

I think it is a real question what the FBI was doing in the Ukraine, didn't know it is within their jurisdiction. Just another case of US interference in the affairs of a soveriegn nation. It is no wonder the Russians are paranoid

I doubt Russia or any other country is paranoid and actively gathers intell and probes the other countries of the world for their own interest and to suggest the USA is alone or even more aggressive is more than a bit misinformed.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

lol cant tell you how many times I've had interaction and audits with your TGA . Do you think your AFP doesn't operate over seas ?

Everybody does it, and well they should.

yup criminals cross borders . So too does law enforcement need to go .

Wouldn't be at all surprised to see an investigation of HC and Mr. Obama. Plenty of smoke to indicate fire.

Plenty indeed . The Mueller report was more than exoneration ;it is a searing indictment of the FBI . When the IG report is delivered there will be enough for AG Barr to take action .The Mueller findings now proves the dossier was a fabrication.

You still have not seen the Mueller report, just AG Barr's opinion of it. The only thing from Mueller we know about was he could neither prosecute nor exculpate the dufus of obstruction. Celebrate the no collusion, for now at least, but the final authority belongs to the congress.

We await Mueller's report... STILL!

Keep hope alive!

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Originally Posted by talaniman

You still have not seen the Mueller report, just AG Barr's opinion of it. The only thing from Mueller we know about was he could neither prosecute nor exculpate the dufus of obstruction. Celebrate the no collusion, for now at least, but the final authority belongs to the congress.

We await Mueller's report... STILL!

So you think a Demonrat House will go against the findings of the report

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So you think a Demonrat House will go against the findings of the report

I would say it is possible, but it's still a great question.

They haven't seen the details of the Mueller report, but it's their job to verify and review all action by the executive branch. That's their oversight responsibility by the law.

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it's their job

TTTTTheir "Job", their job, righighttt. They haven't been doing their "job" for over two years!

I thought this article was interesting. Here is the first paragraph:

"Special counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his report on the Russia investigation, and Republicans are gloating. They claim a four-page letter from Attorney General William Barr, purporting to summarize the report, exonerates President Donald Trump. They’re wrong. The letter says the Justice Department won’t prosecute Trump, but it reaches that conclusion by tailoring legal standards to protect the president. Here’s a list of Barr’s weasel words and what they’re hiding."
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...e-reading.html

'The Dems are genuinely upset that the President did not collude with the Russians . Remember when the Dems said that reports couldn't be released because they had to protect methods and sources ? not so much now.
Remember when the Dems said the integrity of Inspector Mueller was unimpeachable ? Now they want to subpeoena him to testify . The only thing to discover now is how the intel about Trump 'colluding with the Russians' was so wrong.

Mueller decided NO FURTHER investigation on obstruction was warranted ; a decision made on the merits. DOJ agreed. That means he was FULLY exonerated..

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...VR-p-MEVJhlPPw

"According to a new report from the New York Times, Mueller has farmed out federal indictments to 1) the SDNY, in Manhattan, 2) the EDNY, in Brooklyn, 3) the EDVA in Virginia, 4) the U.S. Attorney’s office in Los Angeles, 5) the U.S. Attorney’s office in Washington DC, 6) the DOJ National Security Division, and 7) the DOJ Criminal Division. So what is the take-away from all this? Those who are familiar with Mueller’s investigation understand that 'no more indictments from Mueller' doesn’t mean 'no more indictments.' It means every single one of Mueller’s existing indictments resides in a 'presidential pardon-proof' prosecutorial district. Recall how Mueller handed off the Cohen case to the U.S. Attorney's office for the SDNY, who sent Cohen to prison. As his own investigation ends, it becomes clear Mueller plans to handle all indictments/prosecutions resulting from his investigation through these seven federal prosecutorial entities. In other words, the people on Team Trump who are celebrating right now are merely suffering from a lack of understanding about the rule of law and how federal and state prosecutions work."

So it comes down to, "In two years I couldn't find any evidence, even with a practically unlimited budget and dozens of highly competent staff members, so maybe I can farm these out to other people who can keep this nonsense going on for two more years."

If Mueller, who was hardly a neutral party, could not bring charges for obstruction, then I'm convinced there is nothing there.

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'presidential pardon-proof' prosecutorial district.

wrong , only a state prosecution is pardon proof . Anything coming out of the district courts is a Federal matter . Yes Cohen's charges in NYS are pardon proof. Not that Trump would pardon him .That is why Cohen turned .

Talk about a dem party plan backfiring, Trump and the repubs have just been handed the best gift imaginable. Now to see if they know how to handle it. Will be equally interesting to see if the dems can regain their composure. One might hope they would abandon the hate Trump line and begin to simply look competent in trying to solve problems, but I doubt it. Unfortunate.

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Talk about a dem party plan backfiring, Trump and the repubs have just been handed the best gift imaginable. Now to see if they know how to handle it. Will be equally interesting to see if the dems can regain their composure. One might hope they would abandon the hate Trump line and begin to simply look competent in trying to solve problems, but I doubt it. Unfortunate.

It's not over yet.

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It's not over yet

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Should we wait for the results of the Mueller report and the OTHER investigations to be revealed before we move back to Repub right-wing conspiracy theories?

How about we remain focused on Demonrat conspiracy theories

Welcome EKG, why are you amazed that the loony right wing noise machine is still around talking crazy stuff? That is what they do, and what they always have done, and show NO signs of changing now since their dufus keeps 'em well fed with the noise and lies they love most.

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Welcome EKG, why are you amazed that the loony right wing noise machine is still around talking crazy stuff? That is what they do, and what they always have done, and show NO signs of changing now since their dufus keeps 'em well fed with the noise and lies they love most.

Yep. Thank goodness we have the well-reasoned, thoughtful input of the left led by deep thinkers such as AOC, Omar, Pelosi, Sanders, Harris, and Mr. Spartacus. And, of course, we have to admit that Fox News tends to represent the right as opposed to the fifty or so media outlets who represent the left.

I know you would rather make the left sound crazy because we are the mainstream thinking and the right is a small band of nutcases. You would have more TV and radio stations if you expanded a bit instead of just chasing each other around in a small circle.