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  • Jan 30, 2019, 08:27 PM
    paraclete
    Appointed by God!
    https://www.news.com.au/world/north-...ccf55ee274ff3a

    Huckabee claims Trump was appointed by God. Scripturally this is correct since God appoints rulers but it has been a long time since anyone claimed to be an anointed king. Trump is about as far from a desirable ruler as you could get, but he might possess qualities that could get the job done, depending upon which job you wanted done. Protecting Israel, I could see him doing that. Facing down bullies, he certainly has done that. Looking after the helpless, jury is still out on that one, but one thing is obvious he is neither the godless Clinton or the Muslim Obama
  • Jan 30, 2019, 08:53 PM
    jlisenbe
    A person expressed her personal religious opinion. Not the end of the world, but your observations are, I think, pretty accurate. He is certainly far from perfect, but I do think we took a step up. I must admit I sometimes wondered how in the world we ended up choosing between Clinton and Trump.
  • Jan 30, 2019, 10:00 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    A person expressed her personal religious opinion. Not the end of the world, but your observations are, I think, pretty accurate. He is certainly far from perfect, but I do think we took a step up. I must admit I sometimes wondered how in the world we ended up choosing between Clinton and Trump.

    You don't know, take off your blinders. Trump bullied all the other candidates off the platform, and then to his surprise, he was the last man standing. His ego wouldn't let him say opps! And so he had to go on with it, hoping Hilliary would win, which was the plan, for Trump to be a spoiler for the Republican campaign. He looked like he opposed every one of the demonrat policies, but in reality, he has fiddled at the edges, shouting to the mob about how great he thinks he is
  • Jan 31, 2019, 06:10 AM
    jlisenbe
    Pretty wild theory with no evidence.
  • Jan 31, 2019, 07:15 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Scripturally this is correct
    You have answered your own question.
  • Jan 31, 2019, 08:19 AM
    talaniman
    I won't blame God for the actions of humans. Maybe this is the wake up call America needs to keep it real.
  • Jan 31, 2019, 08:27 AM
    tomder55
    Romans 13:1
  • Jan 31, 2019, 09:40 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Maybe this is the wake up call America needs to keep it real.
    If you mean waking up to our need to respect and honor God and have faith in His Son, then I'm with you. That would require an abandoning of a number of things ranging from sex outside of marriage to re-embracing traditional marriage and the right of unborn babies to live.

    Quote:

    Maybe this is the wake up call America needs to keep it real.
    If you mean waking up to our need to respect and honor God and have faith in His Son, then I'm with you. That would require an abandoning of a number of things ranging from sex outside of marriage to re-embracing traditional marriage and the right of unborn babies to live.
  • Feb 1, 2019, 02:58 PM
    paraclete
    Saying it twice won't make it happen, these things are an indication america has lost its soul, but you have many fellow travellers
  • Feb 1, 2019, 03:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    these things are an indication america has lost its soul,
    Well stated.

    As to why it is on there twice, I have no idea. Must have been a senior moment.
  • Feb 1, 2019, 03:56 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    If you mean waking up to our need to respect and honor God and have faith in His Son, then I'm with you. That would require an abandoning of a number of things ranging from sex outside of marriage to re-embracing traditional marriage and the right of unborn babies to live.
    Where is our supposed God-appointed government authority is all of that?

    Quote:

    he took a step up
    From what or who?
  • Feb 1, 2019, 04:02 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Where is our supposed God-appointed government authority is all of that?
    The institution of government is God ordained. The people in those positions, last time I checked, are humans and subject to error. David as king was about as God appointed as it gets, but he made serious blunders.
  • Feb 1, 2019, 04:42 PM
    Wondergirl
    David finally has been outdone!
  • Feb 1, 2019, 05:57 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    David finally has been outdone!

    Don't know, there are some things Trump hasn't done. David was a warrior King
  • Feb 1, 2019, 06:38 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Don't know, there are some things Trump hasn't done. David was a warrior King

    I was thinking about his transgressions.
  • Feb 1, 2019, 07:18 PM
    Typhoonish
    On my opinion, God is putting everyone on our own places. And He has His reasons. God sent these rulers on their positions on each of every countries for a wonderful reasons. And it's up to them if they will rule the country with the light of God or with their manly rules.
  • Feb 1, 2019, 08:03 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I was thinking about his transgressions.
    Yeah. If only we could have "saint Obama" back.
  • Feb 1, 2019, 08:15 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. If only we could have "saint Obama" back.

    Please list ten of his transgressions.
  • Feb 2, 2019, 01:32 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Please list ten of his transgressions.

    Let me see, lying, cheating, taxing
  • Feb 2, 2019, 07:07 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Please list ten of his transgressions.
    That is such a funny request. I guess if we can only come up with merely eight, then he must be OK? Is that how it works now? "Oh, it's only eight. You know it has to be 10 for a guy to be truly corrupt. Only six or eight would mean he is only marginally corrupt."

    At any rate,

    1. Fast and Furious gun running.
    2. VA scandal
    3. Non response to Benghazi
    4. Lying about Benghazi repeatedly.
    5. IRS scandal.
    6. Pigford scandal.
    7. 500 mil wasted on Solyndra.
    8. Black Panthers scandal.
    9. "I'll have more flexibility once the election is over."
    10. AG Lynch meets with B Clinton and Obama takes no action whatsoever.
    11. Rosengate.
    12. Declining to enforce laws.
    13. Refused to hold HC accountable for violating the law with her toy email server.
    BONUS: Referred to HC as "the most qualified candidate for president ever", a politically-motivated lie so blatant that even a rock-ribbed Clinton supporter would have blushed.

    For your convenience, I listed 13 plus a bonus.

    To be clear, I have no problem with people being critical of Trump, but when he is repeatedly criticized for basically the same kinds of things that Obama did, then you have to be ready to be equally critical of Obama. If Trump is a dufus, then Obama was a double-dufus, or at least a dufus and a half. (WW 2 vets will recognize that pun.)
  • Feb 2, 2019, 10:12 AM
    talaniman
    Instead of wasting my time knocking down your post, and it's fallacies and inaccuracies, let's just compare Obama's record, flaws included, with that of the lying cheating dufus. Want to start with the lies? They number a lot more than 13 on any given day just in tweets.

    https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/169/16967/1696798.gif
    https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/cac...70/1697014.jpg

    https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/cac...64/1696450.jpg

    https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/cac...65/1696569.jpg
    https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/169/16965/1696566.gif
    No telling what else the dufus will screw up the rest of this year, let alone the rest of his first term.
  • Feb 2, 2019, 10:57 AM
    jlisenbe
    When he starts lying about what caused an armed assault that resulted in the deaths of 4 Americans, and the lies just happen to help his reelection chances, then come back and talk to me. For that matter, since lying seems to concern you so much, if you can even point to any posts you made at the time referring to him as a "dufus" and being critical of his lying, that would also be nice to see. I suspect you won't because those posts don't exist. For that matter, you won't even be critical of him now.

    Might add that posting mindless cartoons doesn't aid your cause.
  • Feb 2, 2019, 11:55 AM
    talaniman
    Naw, back then I was blasting the loony right wing fringe talking points. Like I do now, but from the opposition side of the administration. They are still there if you want to get caught up. Don't like me expressing my feelings on the matter with cartoons? It's my way of sharing.
  • Feb 2, 2019, 12:45 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Naw, back then I was blasting the loony right wing fringe talking points.
    Well, at least you are consistent in that regard, but when it comes to being outraged about lying, you are predictably selective. That's why your rants about Trump ring so hollow. As I am fond of saying, it generally just comes down to politics rather than genuine ethics.
  • Feb 2, 2019, 01:53 PM
    talaniman
    This lying cheating dufus in office transcends politics, and borders on immoral criminality. Him and his sycophants.
  • Feb 2, 2019, 02:10 PM
    jlisenbe
    As I said, oh for the days of Saint Obama.
  • Feb 2, 2019, 02:38 PM
    talaniman
    I would put him on that kind of pedestal, but he done good over all. The dufus lies even when his lips ain't moving.
  • Feb 2, 2019, 02:44 PM
    paraclete
    Tal you really need to get over having more than 50% of the country not agree with you at least once
  • Feb 2, 2019, 05:43 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I would put him on that kind of pedestal, but he done good over all. The dufus lies even when his lips ain't moving.
    You would put a repeated liar on a pedestal. Hmm. Politics first, ethics second.
  • Feb 2, 2019, 05:56 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I would put him on that kind of pedestal, but he done good over all. The dufus lies even when his lips ain't moving.

    Typo, that should have been wouldn't.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Tal you really need to get over having more than 50% of the country not agree with you at least once

    Most voters agreed with me and rather have Hillary, but that darned electoral college picked the dufus, but it's legal so..
  • Feb 2, 2019, 08:24 PM
    Athos
    Tal- your cartoons are beautifully to the point - every time!

    You can measure their effectiveness by how much they are disliked by the other side.

    Nice work.
  • Feb 3, 2019, 08:28 AM
    talaniman
    Thanks Athos, I love it when the right wing noise machine has no rebuttal, but it's much more gratifying when their heads explode, because someone dares oppose the flawed logic of the arguments they present.https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/169/16965/1696515.gif

    https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/169/16965/1696517.gif





    Makes my point based in FACTS!
  • Feb 3, 2019, 01:00 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Makes my point based in FACTS!
    You must have a different definition of "FACTS" than the rest of the world.
  • Feb 3, 2019, 01:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    "The greatest tragedy to me isn’t [Trump]. It isn’t that the person supposedly leading our country lacks a single benevolent impulse, that he is impervious to compassion, incapable of nobility, and mortally allergic to simple kindness.

    I know that he is just a mirror, and the greatest tragedy is how many Americans he now represents. ~John Pavlovitz
  • Feb 3, 2019, 02:48 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You must have a different definition of "FACTS" than the rest of the world.

    I think overall I am in the mainstream of what the facts are by a significant majority in THIS country, depending on the subject of course.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    "The greatest tragedy to me isn’t [Trump]. It isn’t that the person supposedly leading our country lacks a single benevolent impulse, that he is impervious to compassion, incapable of nobility, and mortally allergic to simple kindness.

    I know that he is just a mirror, and the greatest tragedy is how many Americans he now represents. ~John Pavlovitz

    That is a tragedy, that so many support and follow this LYING, CHEATING, DUFUS!
  • Feb 3, 2019, 02:55 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    That is a tragedy, that so many support and follow this LYING, CHEATING, DUFUS!



    Then it might be time for you to stop ranting and ask yourself why?, What is it about the demonrat agenda they don't like? Is it the the health care plan that is a draconian tax system? Is the the confrontational foriegn policy? Is it the debt? Is it taxation? is it pandering to the AGW wack jobs?
  • Feb 3, 2019, 03:24 PM
    talaniman
    No it's the desperate loonies who hate themselves and everybody else. I hope they are a minority, but they have subverted a political party, and control an agenda that's DESPERATE in my humble opinion. Another election may well diminish their influence though.

    Expect more ranting and railing against such views until then!
  • Feb 3, 2019, 03:28 PM
    paraclete
    What is desperate, wanting to build a border wall? Wanting health care without state enforcement? Wanting out of foreign wars? Wanting not to have to pay the levy for AGW?
  • Feb 3, 2019, 03:38 PM
    talaniman
    No, what's desperate is the few controlling the many. The loony right and the agenda they desperately push is the minority if you ask me, and doomed to fail with the dufus as it's champion. What? You thought our Civil War was over because the shooting stopped? No, it continues more civilly, but as noisy as ever. Evolution before your eyes, and quite messy.
  • Feb 3, 2019, 03:49 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    No, what's desperate is the few controlling the many. The loony right and the agenda they desperately push is the minority if you ask me, and doomed to fail with the dufus as it's champion. What? You thought our Civil War was over because the shooting stopped? No, it continues more civilly, but as noisy as ever. Evolution before your eyes, and quite messy.

    Tal you live in a democracy, although Tom wouldn't agree. This is the nature of democracy, control is handed to the few by means of elections to avoid anarchy. Your nation had a choice before them, and like it or not, they chose Trump. Now some of us cannot understand why they would chose such a person, but obviously to continue the same path wasn't the preferred option. When faced with the choice of the devil you know and the devil you don't know some people won't choose the devil you know, but devil you did choose. For two years you have ranted and now the electorate has neutered him

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