Donald the Crazy announced an immediate withdrawal from Syria since he had defeated ISIS. Top-level military men bailed out of his administration because that was a lie. Bolton declared the opposite, and the Head of State of Turkey refused to meet with Bolton because “America is nuts”. Good point, Erdogan.


Orangehead wants his wall built, so what does he do? Well what any sane person would do – he refuses to pay wages to almost one million workers and insists some of them work anyway without pay. Nobody on the planet has yet figured out what one has to do with the other. Meanwhile, sick people can't get medical treatment, mortgages are going unpaid, and babies can't get their milk. What does idiot boy say? “They'll adjust”.


Donald the Genius (“I'm smarter than almost everybody and have big words”) has caused agriculture losses in the billions because he doesn't understand how trade works. Payments to farmers have been stopped because he doesn't understand how a shutdown government works. Donald the Dope says he will move money intended for Hurricane relief in Texas, Florida and Puerto Rico to build his wall, but he can't because he doesn't understand how Congress allocates funds.



Then there are the border agents who he claims “love” him. They're suing him for lost wages.
Today the Air Traffic Controllers sued Trump for lack of due process.
TSA is next.


Oh yeah, remember Mexico paying for the wall – he denies saying he ever claimed they would pay it with cash or a check or something like that - “directly”. This in spite of literally hundreds of videos proving that is EXACTLY what he said! He now claims the money will be “paid” by Mexico via the new trade agreement (which hasn't even been approved yet by Congress, and which will not generate nearly enough federal revenue to pay for a wall).


Just another day in the deliriously dizzy world of a demented president.

Don't worry, it will soon all be over, no matter what the outcome

If only we had elected that emotionally stable, thoroughly honest, and highly accomplished democrat Hillary Clinton. I'm sure things would be much better.

When a party runs a mediocre candidate like Hillary, they shouldn't complain when the other party wins the election. Trump is certainly not a great president, but with unemployment numbers at record lows, I'm willing to cut him some slack.

As to the government shut-down, Mr. Obama did the same thing over Obamacare. The dems in congress are as responsible as Trump is, but I notice you had no criticism for them.

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You got THAT right!

I forgot to enable the EXTREME SARCASM font on that paragraph.

While we were sleeping ,the left exposed their true open borders positions.

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“It would come from those of us who be­lieve we’ve al­ready given enough wall fund­ing away,” said Rep. File­mon Vela (D., Texas). “I would go much fur­ther than that. I would tear the ex­ist­ing struc­ture down.”

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/wall-im...ts-11547380801

They do not have an open-borders position.

What about the Eastern Coast, the Pacific Coast, the Canadian border? They're open. $1.7 million worth of fentanyl was seized at the Port of Philadelphia last summer. Highly potent fentanyl-based opioid products – illegally produced and trafficked into Canada by overseas drug laboratories and sold for astronomical profits – have caused hundreds of deaths, all while authorities are helplessly watching. That opioid stream is flowing south into this country.

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What about the Eastern Coast, the Pacific Coast, the Canadian border?

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Those areas are not open in the sense that anyone can just walk through at any time. There are still laws that apply, but they are not where we have a half million illegal immigrants a year trying to just walk in. If the port of Philly is "open", then how did they catch the fentanyl product?

I know because I deal with imports that the ports are NOT open. I spend sometimes 2 or more weeks waiting for FDA and customs releases .

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Those areas are not open in the sense that anyone can just walk through at any time. There are still laws that apply, but they are not where we have a half million illegal immigrants a year trying to just walk in. If the port of Philly is "open", then how did they catch the fentanyl product?

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There are no walls on the Pacific and Atlantic coasts and at the Canadian border. How do we catch illegal drugs and keep out illegal immigrants? How do we close those weak/open boundaries?

show me the armada of illegals trying to enter by sea . If they do come here by sea then they have a valid visa. That some of them allow their visa to expire is a separate issue that also needs to be addressed. Of course all they have to do is settle in sanctuary cities and states to secure their illegal presence . Gavin Newsom's California budget proposal would have state taxpayers fund an additional $260 million of taxpayer's money to pay for illegal's healthcare . No problem . Progressive socialists always find ways to confiscate other people's money . As Sandanista Bill in NYC says .

“Brothers and sisters, there’s plenty of money in the world. There’s plenty of money in this city. It’s just in the wrong hands,”

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“Brothers and sisters, there’s plenty of money in the world. There’s plenty of money in this city. It’s just in the wrong hands,”

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Yes indeed but does he have plans to take it away from the wrong people, his constituent super rich. No, he wants to take it away from the middle class and make the super rich richer, and no thought of giving it to the poor, because the poor are always with us

I'm not talking so much about illegal people as much as illegal drugs.

4 Six states account for 58% of unauthorized immigrants: California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois. But individual states have experienced different trends. From 2007 to 2016, the unauthorized immigrant population decreased in a dozen states: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York and Oregon. In three states, the unauthorized immigrant population rose over the same period: Louisiana, Maryland and Massachusetts.
5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S. | Pew Research Center

I guess we need walls around New York, New Jersey, Florida, and Illinois. Plus Louis, Maryland, and Massachusetts.

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Why don't you economise and build one around Washington?

They settle in NY and NJ and the states you mention in many cases . That does not make those states the entry point .

They weren't caught until they got to Massachusetts?

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They settle in NY and NJ and the states you mention in many cases . That does not make those states the entry point .

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And Trump's declaring an emergency does not make it an emergency! And why didn't he do anything when he had both houses?

Answer: the whole thing is nothing but a setup to signal his core group of supporters. Trump cares nothing about drugs, immigrants and children dying on Christmas Day while under the protection of his ICE.

When will you Trump supporters see him for what he is - a man so self-obsessed he will do literally anything to get more influence, power and money.

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The influence and power part I understand but needing to suspend certain operations, how does this make him more money?

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I think you are confused. That's a description of Hillary.

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The influence and power part I understand but needing to suspend certain operations, how does this make him more money?

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His base voters, supporters, and sycophants, love him for his fighting for their cause and building his wall, and destroying the government, and if he doesn't he no longer can scare the repub congress into standing with him. That's worth more than money right now, amid his considerable growing opposition and a national election looming in 2020.

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Fits the dufus even better.

more from the Democrat open border party . Beto O'Rourke “That wall in itself is a racist reaction to a racist myth that does not reflect the reality of this country at all.” When the left has nothing else they charge racism. Law and order at the border has nothing to do with “racism “. How many illegals is "Beto "(aka Robert Francis ) housing in his home ?

Here is the list of countries with the highest number of people on the waiting list to get visas . ie LEGAL ENTRY :

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Country Applicants
Mexico 1,229,505
Philippines 314,229
India 298,571
Vietnam 231,519
China-mainland born 231,519
Bangladesh 169,231
Dominican Republic 146,160
Pakistan 115,625
Haiti 94,506
El Salvador 64,868
Cuba 55,847
All Others 840,393
Worldwide Total 3,791,973

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https://travel.state.gov/content/dam...tItem_2018.pdf

There is NOTHING racist about our immigration policies .

Really false narrative by you conservatives since we prefer the humane process for our fellow humans to the inhumane way YOU enforce the laws, and justify your cruelty with insane rhetoric and fearmongering against our south AMERICAN neighbors desperately fleeing the horrendous conditions of their lands no different than the Euro immigrants that came before them.

The dufus is a racist and those that listen and follow his lead are too.

"The dufus is a racist and those that listen and follow his lead are too."

What people say when they have no rational arguments. Lowest black and hispanic unemployment figures in history, but Trump is a racist. Yes. That makes perfect sense.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c2&oe=5CBAFB91

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fleeing the horrendous conditions of their lands no different than the Euro immigrants that came before them.

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never before was fleeing economic conditions a rationale for asylum. Yes my ancestors came here . They did it LEGALLY . I can assure you the conditions in Ellis Island were far from what you define as humane .

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"The dufus is a racist and those that listen and follow his lead are too."

What people say when they have no rational arguments. Lowest black and hispanic unemployment figures in history, but Trump is a racist. Yes. That makes perfect sense.

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About time but I doubt the dufus contributed to an already increasingly robust economy. Like his fortune... he inherited it, and yes there is empirical EVIDENCE to that fact.

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[LEFT] never before was fleeing economic conditions a rationale for asylum. Yes my ancestors came here . They did it LEGALLY . I can assure you the conditions in Ellis Island were far from what you define as humane .

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I wasn't even speaking of the economic conditions in my reference to desperate conditions, and seeking asylum is LEGAL in America. The Dufus's process to verify such a claim is inhuman, and I never heard of Euro's being separated and the kids put in cages, nor the conditions being inhuman. Not saying migrants weren't treated cruelly by citizens though, but far better than the ones they stole to do the labor of a new land of which there is no comparison.

I got no sympathy to those that holler how LEGAL their peeps are. Look who decides whose legal and who ain't. I remember when Cubans were legal if they could make land. Heck Tom, a brother can't hangout at a Starbucks without getting rousted by a cop so spare me that LEGAL BS!

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more from the Democrat open border party . Beto O'Rourke “That wall in itself is a racist reaction to a racist myth that does not reflect the reality of this country at all.” When the left has nothing else they charge racism. Law and order at the border has nothing to do with “racism “. How many illegals is "Beto "(aka Robert Francis ) housing in his home ?

Here is the list of countries with the highest number of people on the waiting list to get visas . ie LEGAL ENTRY :

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam...tItem_2018.pdf

There is NOTHING racist about our immigration policies .

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Ok so somewhere in the others are those from Africa, Europe, what this tells me is your entry policies are racist, 2 million of those "applicants" are hispanic, so you have NAFTA which should have made Mexico a workers paradice but people want to escape to your utopia. I do question the statistics when the same number are seeking entry from China and Vietnam

Trump is a racist.

In 1979, while running the Trump Organization, he was charged by the Feds with racial discrimination against blacks wanting to rent apartments in Queens. He responded with a massive counter-suit and calling the Feds "gestapo" and "storm troopers". His counter-suit was dismissed.

Since then he has shown himself to be a racist again and again by his own words. The black and hispanic unemployment stats have nothing to do with Trump. The current economy started well before Trump was elected. We can thank Obama for that.

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Since then he has shown himself to be a racist again and again by his own words. The black and hispanic unemployment stats have nothing to do with Trump. The current economy started well before Trump was elected. We can thank Obama for that.

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So if the economy improves under Obama, he get credit, but when it improves under Trump, he gets no credit. Yet another completely absurd statement.

The economy has improved and is still improving under Trump, but he had nothing to do with that. You do notice how things are falling apart now....

Economies ebb and flow in a cycle, and creating uncertainty as has been done deliberately for political purposes will reverse gains

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The economy has improved and is still improving under Trump, but he had nothing to do with that. You do notice how things are falling apart now....

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Yes, and da Vinci had nothing to do with the Mona Lisa.

Finally the repubs have made Iowa congressman Steve King answer for his overt racist statement over the years.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46872613

What took them so long?

In the meantime, good ole Mr. Obama was buddies with Louis Farakhan, one of the biggest racists on the planet. I guess that was OK. Wonder what took so long on that? As I'm fond of saying, it's all about politics.

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Is not BLACK nationalism a logical reaction to the years of suffering powerlessly under the terrorism of white racism? I refer you to the slave revolt led by Nate Turner, and the civil rights protests of the south in the 60's, much of it occurring in your own back yard.

So it's OK if you are black to be a racist? Is that your argument? Black nationalism is just fine, it's just that white nationalism that's bad. Wow. I can scarcely believe you are making that argument. It's stunning.

I'm happy to be on the side that despises all of it.

Most of the civil rights protests in the 60's were peaceful and were not even close to a move for black nationalism. Yeah, it was in my backyard, and most whites had sympathy for their cause. It is still a stain on the history of my state that we took so long to recognize equality. That would be a valid statement.

Read my post again. I never said black nationalism was okay, but a logical reaction to white racism. Clearly the white nationalism has a greater more profound effect and has the advantage, so lets not pretend Farrakhan's rhetoric even comes close to the atrocities of the klan, or any other discriminatory practices over the years. Disappointed that you attempt to equate the two.

Even more disappointing is your lack of understanding on the subject claiming how peaceful the protests were when many were beaten, fire hosed, jailed and murdered, before it was peaceful. Yeah I know you guys have recognized equality, in words anyway, but I'm not sure your minority population would agree, unfortunately.

At least you are open to the conversation, I give you that my friend.

And you, my friend. I enjoy our exchanges and do consider what you say.

As to equality, guess which state has the greatest number of black elected officials. If you guessed Mississippi, you get to go to the front of the line! I'll put our equality up against your state any day of the week.

So what yo proving, emancipation works 150 years later where the population is biggest, or yo proving all the white folks has moved out