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  • Jun 21, 2018, 03:16 AM
    Athos
    The End Of The Republican Party
    Steve Schmidt is a long-time (decades) strategist for the Republican Party dealing at the highest levels in politics and presidential campaigns. Today, June 21, Schmidt renounced his party affiliation and urged voters to vote for the Democratic Party in November.

    Here is Schmidt's statement:

    “The reality is that our Founders always predicted that one day there would be a president like Trump, and that’s why they designed the system of government the way they designed it. What they never imagined is the utter abdication of a co-equal branch of government, which we’re seeing now. . . . The definition of conservatism now is the requirement of complete and utter obedience to the leader.”

    The Leader
    . In German, Der Fuehrer. In Italian, Il Duce.

    As Trump steadily moves closer to his neo-Fascist idea of government, the nation and the world grow increasingly disgusted with his barbarism as shown in his uncaring and evil treatment of babies and small children. There remain over 2,000 children "lost" in the system and Trump's administration cannot, or will not, tell their parents where they are being kept.

    This is America in 2018.
  • Jun 21, 2018, 06:15 AM
    paraclete
    Watch out for that soapbox, Trump has reversed his policy so give him time to get it right
  • Jun 21, 2018, 06:43 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Watch out for that soapbox, Trump has reversed his policy so give him time to get it right

    He took a step back but did nothing for the kids already in custody. He has had plenty of time to get it right before he started down this path.
  • Jun 21, 2018, 09:40 AM
    tomder55
    it's been years since Congress has performed their constitutional role . It never bothered you so much when the emperor was making dictatorial decisions with his "pen and phone" . So spare me this johnny come lately faux outrage .
  • Jun 21, 2018, 09:55 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    it's been years since Congress has performed their constitutional role . It never bothered you so much when the emperor was making dictatorial decisions with his "pen and phone" . So spare me this johnny come lately faux outrage .


    Faux outrage?

    Like children being torn from the arms of their mother, sometimes at the breast? Only in your sick world is this outrage faux!
  • Jun 21, 2018, 10:08 AM
    tomder55
    you did not mind it when the emperor did the same thing throughout his reign ,
  • Jun 21, 2018, 10:33 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you did not mind it when the emperor did the same thing throughout his reign ,

    Even for you, this is a stretch. Your defense of your man Trump is always to attack either Obama or Clinton or some other figure from past history. Why not attack Attila the Hun?
  • Jun 21, 2018, 11:29 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you did not mind it when the emperor did the same thing throughout his reign ,

    Of course I have facts to refute your FICTION.

    https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...-and-responses

    Are you comparing Obamas process to the ham handed out the blue gut reactions of the Dufus?
  • Jun 22, 2018, 05:59 AM
    paraclete
    What the hell are you talking about
  • Jun 22, 2018, 06:42 AM
    talaniman
    https://exchange.americanimmigration...?itok=mcmKAmBG

    Immigration has been down and will get the current figures when time permits. It would NOT surprise me at all if this whole exercise in lunacy was a Dufus scheme to funnel money to his peeps that make money off government contracts that incarcerate, and detained people. We have a prison system that rivals any in the world. They are his donors after all, and the Dufus will freely extract tax payer money to fill the pockets of his rich friends.
  • Jun 22, 2018, 06:48 AM
    talaniman
    You're an accountant, filter out the noise and distraction and follow the money.
  • Jun 22, 2018, 03:50 PM
    paraclete
    Don't let my profession blind you, yes, undoubtedly in a corrupt society there are those who seek to gain from their political decisions
  • Jun 22, 2018, 04:02 PM
    talaniman
    More facts here Clete and up to date.

    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/media-resources/stats

    Immigration is DOWN so what the freak, and where is Dufus funding this obvious campaign stunt with?
  • Jun 22, 2018, 04:18 PM
    paraclete
    Who does it benefit? I noted the use of the word appropriation in the PO meaning I'm telling you what to do if you have the funds to do it, so, yes, some grandstanding involved. I think it is sad that you don't have a more bipartisan approach to solving the issues including those for the people already there.
  • Jun 22, 2018, 04:59 PM
    talaniman
    The Mad Dufus King has taken over the republican party, and the white racists nationalists control it now. Old line repubs have a choice to make. Many will be purged from Trumps party so it's bound to get uglier. We see this same dynamic in other Euro countries, not just here.
  • Jun 22, 2018, 05:22 PM
    talaniman
    These are the actual stats I referenced

    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/c...ent-statistics

    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

    Just an observation on GLOBAL migration. Lots of countries in chaos and turmoil right now. It's happened many times before and systems were overwhelmed as well.

    8D
  • Jun 22, 2018, 07:49 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    These are the actual stats I referenced

    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/c...ent-statistics

    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

    Just an observation on GLOBAL migration. Lots of countries in chaos and turmoil right now. It's happened many times before and systems were overwhelmed as well.

    8D

    Global migration exists because of war and disruption. The people of Syria and Iraq didn't want to go to Europe, but circumstances forced them to look elsewhere. No doubt the unfortunates in Venezeula will look to join you in your utopia. You should take these people because it is your interference which caused their misery. Will you take the Yemeni? But have you noticed? Some people have said enough, we don't want these "migrants", we cannot accommodate them. Italy has finally realised that their problem comes from those who profit from the trade and they have said no more. The Spanish have yet to wake up but they will when their basket case economy is reeling, and it seems you are immune to the impacts.
  • Jun 24, 2018, 05:23 AM
    tomder55
    we caused Venezuela ? Yeah we put in the Marxist governement . There is a process for admitting refugees that needs to be followed ... anything else is law breaking .
  • Jun 24, 2018, 07:18 AM
    paraclete
    I can only agree Tom. Marxist governments arise in places where capitalist exploitation has overstepped its bounds. They are an unfortunate leftover from the cold war
  • Jun 24, 2018, 09:44 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    we caused Venezuela ? Yeah we put in the Marxist governement . There is a process for admitting refugees that needs to be followed ... anything else is law breaking .

    That's the problem here Tom, The Mad Dufus King has NO fair and humane LAWFUL process just BIG LOUD ACTIONS for election purposes.
  • Jun 24, 2018, 04:34 PM
    paraclete
    Do you think he cares who gets elected, only if they will give him his wall, to be known as the great wall of Trump
  • Jun 24, 2018, 05:01 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Do you think he cares who gets elected, only if they will give him his wall, to be known as the great wall of Trump

    And they will fly over it, built ladders taller than it is, and burrow under it.
  • Jun 24, 2018, 06:07 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Do you think he cares who gets elected, only if they will give him his wall, to be known as the great wall of Trump

    If dems take the house he can forget his wall, unless he bends over and gives up a lot more than he has so far. Yes he definitely cares who wins the midterms. Any president would.
  • Jun 24, 2018, 07:05 PM
    paraclete
    Rhetorical question
  • Jun 24, 2018, 07:08 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Rhetorical question

    Rhetorical answer, but with some truth in it.
  • Jun 25, 2018, 03:00 AM
    tomder55
    he needs the GOP majority . I don't see how he loses it the way the economy is peforming . But he will not have enough of a majority to get his way legislatively . So he will continue to use the emperor's solution to advance his agenda . No change ;no difference. As far as the death of the GOP ....it can't happen soon enough. Like the dems ;the GOP is in death spasm mode .
  • Jun 25, 2018, 07:06 AM
    paraclete
    Be careful what you wish for Tom, you could get far right radicals or perish the thought, the Greens
  • Jun 25, 2018, 07:15 AM
    tomder55
    the Dems are turning radical left . I can show you video of many of the Dem leaders who not very long ago were calling for border security .

    the Repubics have been a fraud. I've listened to them since the mid-80s calling for conservative ,limited ,constitutional governance . But when they get in power they sell out . What they have now adopted out of convenience in big government national populism .Trump don't know if yet ,but that coalition will sell out and merge with the Bernie Sanders socialist wing to form a new coalition (both Trump and Sanders agree on more positions than most realize ). What has to emerge from the remnants is a tea party like conservative party .


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy8UwpenlEA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l01_2tvtQcE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlFi0QUboxs
  • Jun 25, 2018, 08:47 AM
    talaniman
    It's starting to look like establishment repubs are becoming independents and voting with the dems right now. The Dufus isn't on the ballot and politics tends to be local. November is shaping up to be more than just the economy though, and we will see if dems keep this immigration fiasco alive that long. The Dufus is adept at changing the news cycle and creating a different crisis to make you forget the last one.

    Watch out for the effects of those tariffs the next few months.
  • Jun 25, 2018, 09:09 AM
    tomder55
    I agree about the tarriffs . The immigration thing will remain until the election and then disappear for another 2 years . The Russian ruse is backfiring big time . The investigators are now going to be the investigated and the econony is not going away
  • Jun 25, 2018, 12:21 PM
    talaniman
    The economy is always subject to change and the tariffs will surely accelerate a rise in prices on many sectors of this great economy. Yeah I have been through a few great economic cycles and they always slowdown. You already know that though.
  • Jun 26, 2018, 04:15 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The economy is always subject to change and the tariffs will surely accelerate a rise in prices on many sectors of this great economy. Yeah I have been through a few great economic cycles and they always slowdown. You already know that though.

    You are right about that, this trade war is a stupid idea
  • Jun 27, 2018, 03:43 AM
    tomder55
    On the other side of the aisle ;here is the future of the Democrat party .

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/polit...ary/index.html

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...n-primary-wins
  • Jun 27, 2018, 05:52 AM
    talaniman
    No surprise since repubs run in the other direction. For every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction. Just like those rust belt oldsters felt left out, of course the youths feel the same way.
  • Jun 27, 2018, 10:11 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    On the other side of the aisle ;here is the future of the Democrat party .

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/polit...ary/index.html


    Congratulations to Alexandria Ocaslo-Cortez who represents the Bronx district I grew up in when that area was working- and middle-class Irish, Jewish, and Italian. We even had a few Yankee ballplayers living in that neighborhood during baseball season.

    God bless her and the light she will bring to the dark halls of Congress.
  • Jun 28, 2018, 05:33 AM
    tomder55
    all the punsters got that vote wrong ;just like the 2018 Presidential election ;and for the same reason .....reporters have forgotten how to gumshoe . My district was gerrymandered out of existence . So even though I live across the river ;my district is majority Westchester and the Bronx .

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