Inspector Clouseau brought down a bakers dozen of indictments yesterday against Ruskies working out of St Petersburg .(taking bets right now on the chances of ever getting those charged onto US soil).The charge is that they dressed up like American snowflakes in pajamas, in their mother's basement ,and covertly set up front groups on social media to organize rallies for and against candidates Trump and Evita . This is deja vu all over again . It's like we are in the Cold War Again .It's like some KGB guy is running Russia . Oh wait that's right ...there is a KGB dude running Russia.

This is not collusion . It is called desinformatsyia .


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Also wondering if any of these are the same Ruskies the emperor expelled Dec 2016 ??

Quick show of hands . How many people here changed their vote because of a Facebook or Twitter ad ?

We have no way of knowing what minds were changed if any, but what of the next election? Or LOCAL elections. I take heed when someone shows me what they are capable of, whether it worked or not. The only question is now that we are aware of yet another lie by the Dufus in chief concerning the witch hunt stuff, what will he do about it?

Will he be a tough guy to Vlad, or will he keep being a WUSS? Will he keep lying about this being a witch hunt? Or call for an end to the investigation because Mueller found the "witches"!

You can bet Mueller ain't done yet! He no doubt is investigating Russian hacking and following the dirty money of the criminals. MO' POPCONE!!!!

umm as far as I can tell it was the emperor who was playing poodle to Putie . I clearly heard him on open mike tell Medvedev that he would be more flexible after the election of 2012 . In fact I recall him mocking Mittens when he suggested that Russia was our greatest geopolitical threat . As far as I can tell he cooperated with Russia in Syria allowing them to get a foot hold in the ME they hadn't had since the days of Nasser . Did you not see the emperor's Ukraine policy of appeasement ? Did the emperor and Evita not collude to sell American uranium to Russia ?

Most of Mueller's indictments are based on well known facts from 2014 before Trump even entered the race .The question then becomes why didn't the emperor move on them before the campaign began ? The only conclusion I can come up with is the one that 2 FBI lovers came up with . They wanted an insurance policy against a Trump win ;something to pin on him when he entered the White House . The American people are footing the bill for this foolishness. If Putie was trying to make the American political process look foolish he could've saved himself some money and assets .The emperor has polluted the political and justice systems beyond recognition .

Trump has seized this a lifeline, he can clearly point to people linked to a Russian oligarch, but the trail leads back to Putin

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umm as far as I can tell it was the emperor who was playing poodle to Putie . I clearly heard him on open mike tell Medvedev that he would be more flexible after the election of 2012 . In fact I recall him mocking Mittens when he suggested that Russia was our greatest geopolitical threat . As far as I can tell he cooperated with Russia in Syria allowing them to get a foot hold in the ME they hadn't had since the days of Nasser . Did you not see the emperor's Ukraine policy of appeasement ? Did the emperor and Evita not collude to sell American uranium to Russia ?

Most of Mueller's indictments are based on well known facts from 2014 before Trump even entered the race .The question then becomes why didn't the emperor move on them before the campaign began ? The only conclusion I can come up with is the one that 2 FBI lovers came up with . They wanted an insurance policy against a Trump win ;something to pin on him when he entered the White House . The American people are footing the bill for this foolishness. If Putie was trying to make the American political process look foolish he could've saved himself some money and assets .The emperor has polluted the political and justice systems beyond recognition .

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Your facts are way off Mueller's indictments are from FACTS that occurred in 2016. They found out this operation began in 2014, and the scope was unknown until recently.

2 years before Trump announced . The question remains ...the emperor did nothing about Russian "interference " until AFTER the election results were in. Why was that ?
I have a running theory . The Ruskies wanted to create chaos . So they peddled anti-Trump stuff to the Clintonistas who brought what Comey called salacious and unverified information to the FISA court to spy on the Trump campaign . They got snookered by the Ruskies . At the same time the Ruskies though clowns like Snowjob and Julian Assange hacked the more vulnerable ,because clear protocols were being violated and ignored ,emails from Evita's and the DNC's computers and cell phones . They then tried to peddle this stuff to herr Donald's campaign. They played both sides for the fools and chumps they are . The difference between the 2 sides is that the emperor gave the Clintoons access to the intel and justice agencies of the nation . This Twitter and Facebook Russian effort is more reminiscent of the gang that can't shoot straight and beneath the capabilities of the Ruskies . I think it was a diversion. Does anyone think there were a significant number of people who were undecided going into the fall of 2016 ? Please ! And how many of them get their major news feeds from Facebook or Twitter ?

I have a theory too. Trump owes Russian banks, and oligarchs and Vlad wants him to pay up with interest.

It's as good a theory as any, the KBG was good at these tactics, so it would be out of the Vlad playbook. This makes Trump the Manchurian candidate

nah the Manchurian candidate was groomed for the position. Trump will serve his term and still not understand what being President means .

We may have to start calling The Dufus, Trump The Chump.

I'm going back to Dump

Another one bites the dust!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.72da3256d266

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U.S. prosecutors in the office of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III said the case involving Alex Van der Zwaan was related to former Trump 2016 presidential campaign manager Paul Manafort.

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Flynn update :

A motion by Michael Flynn to withdraw his guilty plea based on government misconduct is likely in the works.Friday, Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order in United States v. Flynn directing Robert Mueller’s team to provide Flynn’s attorneys “any exculpatory evidence.”
https://www.scribd.com/document/370672707/Flynn-Order

The order stresses that if Mueller has such evidence but believes it is not “material” and therefore that Flynn is not entitled to disclosure of it, Mueller must show the evidence to the court so that Judge Sullivan may decide whether to mandate its disclosure.

This is why the judge delayed Flynn's sentencing . I have already on a number of times pointed out how Flynn got railroaded by Mueller .

If there is anything in this information witheld from Flynn and his lawyers that the Flynn team is not aware of ;it could be grounds for Flynn to reverse his plea . Sullivan’s order supersedes the plea agreement that Flynn was muscled into signing ;that included Flynn waiving rights to "any further discovery or disclosures of information not already provided” .

Interesting and we will see how Mueller reacts to the judges proclamation.

There is really noting to see here, it is a smokescreen

Yes it is . We are supposed to believe that Ruskie bots and pajama boys are going to take down our system. Meanwhile in 2015 the Chinese hacked into the US government OPM targeting the records of over 20 million Americans . That news was met by a collective yawn because it happened during the emperor's watch .

The left is unhinged . On one hand they say that Trump is mentally unstable .Then they say he should have a strong response to Ruskie pajama boys .

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Of course, he's mentally unstable. Is there any doubt? Where have you been during the last year and the previous year's candidacy? His lack of response to Putin and friends indicates at best, he's a woos - at worst, he's committed treason.

Being blackmailed by Russia is not new. He's already been successfully blackmailed by two women due to his sexual excesses. He uses his lawyers as bagmen to keep his hands clean. But it didn't work this time, did it?

The dems memo has been released and you can read it here.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3723...emo#from_embed

What took them so long to release this ? I could've used a black magic marker over anything worth reading also.

On one hand they say that the dossier wasn't used to obtain the FISA warrant yet they are defending it as a valid source for obtaining a FISA warrant. So which is it?

Why doesn't Schiff memo address Rosenstein statements in the Nunes memo that if it weren't for the dossier they wouldn't been able to get warrant?

Schiff fails to explain why, if evidence of Page’s past activities was so compelling, then why was the dossier used in the FISA application at all, much less formed the “bulk” of the Page FISA application. Dep Director FBI Andrew McCabe testified that they would not have gone for the FISA warrants without the dossier .In fact the Schiff memo downplays the significance of the Steele dossier and then goes into details about the steps used to verify it ....all contrary to what Comey and McCabe have testified. In fact Comey is on record as calling the dossier salacious and unverified .

Page 4 ;the FBI independently verified parts of the dossier ;but that part is completely blacked out of the Schiff memo. What it DOES verify is the claim Trump made that he was being spied on when he claimed it and a year before that.
The House Repubs issued a point by point rebuttal if you want to read it .

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...d_response.pdf

In about one month or so Inspector General Horowitz will release his report, which the Democrats initiated because of Comeys actions towards Evita , and things should take a very different direction and interpretation.

You know the old sayings... Don't count your chickens... and... Be careful what you ask for.

Applies to both sides doesn't it?

Acting Deputy Director Andrew McCabe was fired Friday night. McCabe is a key witness in the collusion/obstruction phase of the Mueller investigation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...D=ansmsnnews11

The lawyer for the Dufus wasted no time calling for the Mueller investigation to be shutdown.

Trump's lawyer calls for Russia probe to be shut down | Fox News

Are we seeing conspiracy, obstruction, and witness tampering done before our very eyes in a public way? Or is the Dufus getting very nervous after the subpoena of his business documents? OR ALL THE ABOVE? I just witnessed Dufus business facilitator Felix Slater admit in an interview last week that he and The Dufus were negotiating with a sanctioned Russian bank to finance the building of a Trump Tower in Moscow, while he was running for president.

http://www.businessinsider.com/felix...an-bank-2018-3

What the...!

Who said :

"First we Flynn, then we Trump." ?

Trump did not fire him . The IG was appointed by the emperor and confirmed by a Dem Senate . The FBI Office Of Professional Responsibility who recommended McCabe's firing was appointed by Mueller. Inspector General Horowitz's report is still coming.

Forget all this talk of McCabe losing pension . He is facing jail time .Let's not forget that he was forced out of his position in the FBI and that is why he was planning on retirement . (It's also perverse that a government worker can retire with full benefits at the age of 49 ....but that is a different discussion....$1.8 million ? Really ? ) Losing a pension for electioneering as a top official at the federal law enforcement arm is a LENIENT penalty.
Now we here he kept memos of his meetings with Trump AND the Comey notes ;and will now hand them over to Mueller . But if they were so damning to Trump then why did he wait until now to hand them over ?


Love Birds Peter Strzok and Lisa Page ...and Bruce Ohr should be next on the chop block.

You're right we should wait to get the IG report. No doubt they have found something to hang their hats on to fire the guy, just as they did Comey, and they wasted no time in doing so, which seems to be the plan from the get go. I have no doubt also that Trump is creeping closer to firing Mueller. Mueller's subpoena was a nail in that coffin. He will do anything NOT to testify. Can't blame him for that, since I bet Mueller has a lot of questions he doesn't want to answer and not just the one's I have alluded to in my previous post.

You do know no one gives a damn, don't you? We have had enough of this circus

Kushner business practices under scrutiny.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/jare...-nyc-1.5913129

Mueller will need a bigger desk!

Bubba had to give testimony because he was the subject of a law suit . So far Trump is not charged with anything and there is no compelling reason for his to agree to an interview with Mueller or his thugs . Trump may eventually give a statement .But he holds all the cards to date as far as how and when this will be done . It could be no more than answering questions in written form . Or he could indeed fire Mueller although that would not be the wise course to follow .It could alienate some of his supporters in the swamp.

As for Kushner..... I've said it before ;you can't be in the real estate business in NYC and be clean. Trump should've never let this liberal puke in the White House anyway. Nepotism sucks. But I'm not a big fan of rent control . You should see how rent control apartments become sh*tholes in a short time . If I was an owner making no money on my building and being forced to accept below market rents I would be tempted to have a convenient fire . I certainly would not put a penny into maintenance .I know families that passed them down generationally ;where grandkids were paying the same rent as grandparents . Ask Charlie Rangel .He had 4 of them AS A US CONGRESSMAN ! If the building still had rent stabilized tenants then why didn't the city have records of it and deny Kushner's claim ? Which corrupt NYC Tammany Hall Democrat was getting paid off ?

Yes this fits Mueller's M.O. He went after Flynn's kid to force Flynn to plea to a crime he did not commit. He's trying to goad Trump into firing him .Then he comes off as a martyr instead of the inspector Javert/Clouseau character he really is . He knows he has nothing . Trump needs to fire Rosenstein. Then he needs to direct AG Sessions to cut off all funding for any investigation Mueller has pursued beyond the original charge of finding a clear case of Trump cooperating and colluding with the Russians to steal the election.

BTW did you know that il Duce Cuomo’s buddy and top aid, Joseph Percoco, just got convicted of 3 felonies ? Of course not . The MSM did all they could to bury the corruption of the Cuomo family of crime . Still waiting for the investigation at the state and federal level of the Clintoon Crime family.

You will wait a long time

I know ;

Comey and McCabe both kept detailed notes on their brief meetings with Trump. But on the crucial, very important Evita interrogation they made no notes or transcript ;AND Comey wrote his conclusions down BEFORE the interrogation of Evita happened . He wasn't even in the room !!!! And Evita was not put under oath during the interrogation !!

Mueller doesn't have to be present for an interrogation of Trump, and under oath or not it's still a crime to lie to the FBI. Now the Dufus isn't being interrogated by the FBI, but a special counsel, but that may be worse if the Dufus lies as he usually does. I don't recall Hillary having any private meetings with anybody investigating her, nor throwing rocks at them. So while Trump hollers no collusion, and witch hunt, ALL his associates and colleagues are CRIMINALS.

Today's SCANDAL

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...dal/ar-BBKqrdO

The Dufus and his boy's are scandal machines!

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yup ask McCabe about that .

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Didn't take the MSM long to find a diversion.

Are you familiar with ' Project Taargus ' ?

How the Obama Campaign Used Facebook to Connect with Young Voters | TIME.com

Guess what Zuckerberg called Facebook users who trust him with their personal data ....
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/0...ok_trust_dumb/

Yes that would be Mark Zuckerberg who may now run for President as a Democrat .

Cambridge Analytica's "breach" wasn't a breach at all. It happened almost entirely above board and in line with Facebook policy.

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Guess what Zuckerberg called Facebook users who trust him with their personal data ....
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/0...ok_trust_dumb/

Yes that would be Mark Zuckerberg who may now run for President as a Democrat .

Cambridge Analytica's "breach" wasn't a breach at all. It happened almost entirely above board and in line with Facebook policy.

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Well surely a man who has achieved what he achieved has got to be better than Trump or Dilliary, besides he is a different generation

yes and he fits right in . he has the typical politician's contempt for the peons .

Obviously Facebook and Zuckerberg have grown and both need to make a lot of adjustments. Rules and regulations? I know Tomder, unbridled capitalism GOOD, rules and regulations BAD!

Very familiar with TARGUS, but unclear about TAARGUS. I also know Obama's app was a lot more transparent than what the Cambridge Analytical folks were pushing, and currently the ties to Russia (There they are again) are both questionable and disturbing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/u...ander-nix.html

https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...ian-university

@Clete

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Cambridge Analytica, a data vendor for the Trump campaign, was phased out during the general election, CBS News reports. The firm is now at the center of reports that it exploited Facebook data and harvested millions of U.S. voter profiles without user authorization during the 2016 campaign.
The Trump campaign never used the psychographic data at the heart of a whistleblower who once worked to help acquire the data's reporting -- principally because it was relatively new and of suspect quality and value. The profiling approach utilized by Cambridge Analytica allowed it to predict the voting likelihoods of individual people based on personality, the firm claimed.

Then-candidate Trump's campaign used Cambridge Analytica during the primaries and in the summer because it was never certain the Republican National Committee would be a willing, cooperative partner. Cambridge Analytica instead was a hedge against the RNC, in case it wouldn't share its data.
The crucial decision was made in late September or early October when Mr. Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and Brad Parscale, Mr. Trump's digital guru on the 2016 campaign, decided to utilize just the RNC data for the general election and used nothing from that point from Cambridge Analytica or any other data vendor. The Trump campaign had tested the RNC data, and it proved to be vastly more accurate than Cambridge Analytica's, and when it was clear the RNC would be a willing partner, Mr. Trump's campaign was able to rely solely on the RNC.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-c...fore-election/

But let me ask you ;which one was more manipulative ...... Facebook and CA or the American legacy news media that was firehosing a message to all Americans non-stop that Evita was inevitably going to be our next president ???????????

I think in the climate of our elections both sides blow as much smoke up our arse as they can. My focus is on that Londoner who got the data and gave it to Russian operatives.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7ba204740bb7

https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...ian-university

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rsy/ar-BBKrJgx

Where's that IG report?

The IG report is due this week . I'm as interested in seeing it as you .

Yeah there does seem to have a Brit connection to this whole sordid tale.
My focus is on the Brit who hated Trump; who compiled (in Comey's words ) 'salacious and unverified ' information from the Russians ,and then created a very weak Op research "dossier " ....that was then used by the intel and justice depts of the emperor's regime to unconstitutionally get a court order for surveillance an opposing candidate .

http://thehill.com/opinion/technolog...comes-to-trump

Conservatives join racist and stooges to make up the republican party. As long as that dynamic continues then they will be the victims of their own associations. Republicans have a lot of loonies running roughshod over the party, led by Trump, and you expect sympathy? That's whack.

I feel for conservatives, but they chose their allies, and leaders. They should stop blaming liberals, and clean their own house.