They did not act on the tip. This is on them. Clear FBI protocols were not followed .
Cruz reportedly had dozens of run ins with law enforcement prior to shooting up Marjory Stoneman Douglas High dating back to 2010. Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said Friday that there were "
20 calls for services in the last few years." They SAY he purchased the gun legally .But his backround tells me the gun shop did not do their homework either . He and his brother were both diagnosed with a variety of mental illness issues and were prescribed medication for it . He was expelled from a school because of behavioral problems ;which included finding bullets in his backpack.
AGREED!! All those contacts and reports it boggles my mind no agencies, or resources were enabled for this fellow or the family. Worse nothing that would stop him from buying a gun was ever reported. The state, locals, and feds share a lot of blame for failing to act in any responsible manner so another one falls through what appears to be a HUGE crack. Do I include the gun shop guy in this? I am not so sure unless we get more on that. It's no secret though that buying a rifle in Florida is quick, simple, and easy if you have no felonies.
What we had here was a walking billboard broadcasting danger and all the so called experts and authorities turned a blind eye to it . That is the problem.
AGREED!! You get the trifecta!
And this is the problem ;30 years ago many schools had gun clubs . High schoolers would bring guns and ammo to school and drill after school in the school's shooting range . Semi-auto rifles were available .Although they did not look like military rifles ,they had the same capabilities. Guns didn't suddenly decide to start reigning down death in schools. What happened since then ?
For all the tragedy, havoc, and MAYHEM it's still just that one or two that creates it, and lets face it, most fly under the radar, but Cruze is in a category of his own.
Well for one thing the kids back then were taught right and wrong ,good and evil. The kids in those clubs were taught what to do and not what to do with those guns .
They lived in a time in America when right and wrong was clearly delineated , where expectations about behavior were clear.
Kids nowadays are not the real problem here, and I think its a bad rap. Despite all those changes basically we still have some good kids, but less supervised, and that's the adults....OUR generation Tom...that's what's changed. It sort of had to though, since the whole darn world has changed, not just the culture, society is different for sure, more stuff out here, and a lot more to get into, but most kids are okay I think. Kids generally emulate the adults they are exposed too.
The issue here is our system fails to address the safety and welfare of kids when it comes to how we deal with the dangerous outrageous predators that fall through the cracks of normal acceptable behavior.
The mainstreaming of nihilism...Cultural decay...pharmaceutical fixes(more on that below) ..all contribute to the culture they are brought up in today .The deliberate destruction of moral backstops in the culture. A lost commonality of societal pressures to enforce right and wrong. With all the shootings ,America still refuses to have a serious discussion on the issue .And that is because they would have to look in the mirror and point the finger to who created this Frankenstein.
Where does an unemployed 19 year old drop out get the money for an AR-15 and plenty of ammo?
There was a time in America when any adult on the block could reprimand a neighborhood kid who was out of line without fear. The culture still had invisible restraints developed over centuries. Those restraints were the target of years of attack by the counterculture that has now become the dominant culture. Hollywood made fun of these restraints in films too numerous to list. Now the child is always right even when a sometimes deeply medicated brat who disrupts the classroom gets away with what a good paddling would've remedied in the past. You think it's bad now ? Wait a few years when the kids who's baby sitter is their cell phone get to school .
I don't think its bad now. I just think years of inaction by reasonable ADULTS have steered us to a really bad place and it's time to SH1T or get off the pot!
re big Pharma ...When you talk of lobbying ....the NRA spends nothing compared to what Big Pharma spends . Note the reluctance of law makers to address the fact that many of the young generation are being poisoned by psychotropic drugs that are dispensed like candy to the kids . Our elected leaders would rather get on their high horse and spew platitudes about gun laws for a week before they go back to looking for wife abusers in the White House or phantom Russian spies under their beds rather than deal with reality . Few will draw the clear connection between the violence and the fact that in almost every case where kids do the shooting ,they were prescribed medications that generally do more harm than good . I know someone who was prescribed Prozak .The personality change and the physical affects were immediately noticeable. Thankfully this person listened to advice and got off the medications before permanent damage was done.
I agree with the general premise of lobbyists, big pharma, the NRA and all the rest of the big money profiteers who have adversely affected our elections, lives, and wellbeing for a profit, most glaring being the opioid problem, that's been around for more than a century, but just getting noticed, but will disagree about the characterization of reasonable gun control issues, wife beaters, and especially phantom spies my friend, as those are real, whether you believe it or not, your choice.
I respectfully can submit the case that those who need meds should have them as long as they are under the care and supervision of a good doctor. So before I buy they are bad for everyone, then I will leave that alone and just stay with the position some dangerous loonies are out there, young, old, and in between ready to explode on us with mayhem when they fall through the cracks. Unfortunately our society is destroying the safety net, and as a result more will suffer as more fall through those cracks that we as a society are creating.
Nice rant though, almost as good as mine.
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