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  • Dec 30, 2017, 01:59 PM
    tomder55
    Soldier home for the holidays loses his life saving others in a Bronx NYC inferno
    An immigrant from Ghana who came to America six years ago and recently graduated from Army Basic Training died helping people escape from an apartment fire. A true American hero in every sense of both words.

    https://nypost.com/2017/12/29/soldie...ium=SocialFlow
  • Jan 12, 2018, 11:05 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    An immigrant from Ghana who came to America six years ago and recently graduated from Army Basic Training died helping people escape from an apartment fire. A true American hero in every sense of both words.

    https://nypost.com/2017/12/29/soldie...ium=SocialFlow

    A few days ago the Army awarded Emmanuel Mensah The Soldier's Medal, the highest award of the Army for heroism outside of combat. New York State awarded him its Medal For Valor.

    The citation on the state medal reads: “His courageous and selfless act in the face of unimaginable conditions are consistent with the highest traditions of uniformed service.” Mensah was an immigrant from Ghana, an African country notoriously insulted by Trump the other day.

    Trump himself never served. He received five deferments during the Vietnam War- some were medically questionable.

    As the entire world reverberates from Trump's vicious racist comments, we remember the young 28-year-old Ghanian who gave his life so that four others might live.

    "Greater love hath no man than he lay down his life for his friend".
  • Jan 13, 2018, 05:39 AM
    paraclete
    Yes Trump denigrated his sacrifice, but then what do you expect from someone of his background?
  • Jan 13, 2018, 06:17 AM
    talaniman
    I expect him to learn to do better, and be better. Fact is there are many more positive people to be honored, such as this hero originally from Ghana, than there are rapists and criminals who should be rounded up and deported. Is it too much to ask the chief executive of the best country in the world to speak and act responsibly? I would settle for less lying for now.

    I mean cancelling the opening of a new embassy in London because Obama built it was a HUGE whopper on many levels, since Obama had nothing to do with it, it was Bushes project for better embassy security, and the fact that he was UNWELCOMED on the soil of our greatest ally in the world. You're right of course Clete, what should we expect of a lying self serving con man?

    Forgive him, because he doesn't know what he is doing? I think he knows EXACTLY what he is doing, but I could be wrong!
  • Jan 13, 2018, 03:19 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I expect him to learn to do better, and be better. Fact is there are many more positive people to be honored, such as this hero originally from Ghana, than there are rapists and criminals who should be rounded up and deported. Is it too much to ask the chief executive of the best country in the world to speak and act responsibly? I would settle for less lying for now.

    I mean cancelling the opening of a new embassy in London because Obama built it was a HUGE whopper on many levels, since Obama had nothing to do with it, it was Bushes project for better embassy security, and the fact that he was UNWELCOMED on the soil of our greatest ally in the world. You're right of course Clete, what should we expect of a lying self serving con man?

    Forgive him, because he doesn't know what he is doing? I think he knows EXACTLY what he is doing, but I could be wrong!

    You know Tal, we once used to refer to the yellow peril, referring to those from s'hole countries to the north, but without effort you have found the orange peril right at home. Are you at risk from all those with corn coloured hair who Trump wants to import from Norway, why would anyone leave Norway, they have a higher per capita income than the US
  • Jan 14, 2018, 06:50 AM
    talaniman
    He won the election, but still isn't that popular Clete, especially in America, and the more he talks/tweets the less popular he becomes. Even those in his own party are considering censuring this Dufus with the dangerous mouth (And fingers). The people around him are as incompetent as he is. He lies better than a rug!

    The more I see the less I like, and I am not alone. Election in 10 months so fingers crossed.
  • Jan 14, 2018, 02:59 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    He won the election, but still isn't that popular Clete, especially in America, and the more he talks/tweets the less popular he becomes. Even those in his own party are considering censuring this Dufus with the dangerous mouth (And fingers). The people around him are as incompetent as he is. He lies better than a rug!

    The more I see the less I like, and I am not alone. Election in 10 months so fingers crossed.

    All you can do is make him a lame duck, what good is that? You will not have curbed the mouth and the destructive rhetoric, taking away his power base will make him more dangerous
  • Jan 14, 2018, 05:30 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    ... taking away his power base will make him more dangerous


    Taking away his power base in 2018 may result in a conviction via impeachment. At best, he is immediately run out of town by nightfall. The worst result is forbidding him to run for any office in 2020. Win-win.
  • Jan 14, 2018, 08:09 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    Taking away his power base in 2018 may result in a conviction via impeachment. At best, he is immediately run out of town by nightfall. The worst result is forbidding him to run for any office in 2020. Win-win.

    If the shift is big enough to get the numbers, that seems fair
  • Jan 15, 2018, 07:42 AM
    talaniman
    Getting rid of some of The Dufus's sycophants that ignore his incompetence and divisive racially motivated loose use of language can only be a good thing, and helps greatly restore the balances and checks installed in the government by the founders of the constitution.
  • Jan 15, 2018, 03:16 PM
    tomder55
    figures that this non-political posting became another means to trash talk about herr Donald . Yeah I admit that his crude comments made in a private conversation ,that should never had been leaked ,were inappropriate..... (much like LBJ saying
    “I'll have those n....ers voting Democratic for 200 years.” ...
    or when he told the Greek ambassador,
    "f--- your parliament and your constitution." And of course LBJ is one of your heroes ) .

    If Trump had asked in a politically correct way why we need so many immigrants from "failed states " instead of "sh.t hole countries ";his point would've been the same . And I'm sure that is exactly the language he would've used if he knew his private conversations were going to be made public.

    Note that all this trash talk about Trump ;and allegations that he paid off a porn star comes in the wake of the news that the Emperor's DOJ and FBI illegally used the uncollaborated opposition research "Trump Dossier" to obtain FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign.
  • Jan 15, 2018, 06:26 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    figures that this non-political posting became another means to trash talk about herr Donald . Yeah I admit that his crude comments made in a private conversation ,that should never had been leaked ,were inappropriate... (much like LBJ saying
    “I'll have those n....ers voting Democratic for 200 years.” ...
    or when he told the Greek ambassador,
    "f--- your parliament and your constitution." And of course LBJ is one of your heroes ) .


    It wasn't leaked Tom, it was revealed by the one democrat in the room, corroborated by a REPUBLICAN, Lindsay Graham, and it wasn't private, to ad Jeff Flake has disclosed the facts of what was said at the meeting before it was made public so, and Eric Erickson has spoken to people about Trumps comments were meant for his base. It's not enough to say you aren't a racist, especially with his HISTORY, and it's yet another LIE and con he perpetrates on all you true believers.

    No LBJ was not my hero, MLK, JFK, and RFK were back then, and still are.
    Trump is hardly the first to use racial division for political gain though, nor was LBJ, but he ha taken it a lot further than any before him.

    Quote:

    If Trump had asked in a politically correct way why we need so many immigrants from "failed states " instead of "sh.t hole countries ";his point would've been the same . And I'm sure that is exactly the language he would've used if he knew his private conversations were going to be made public.
    We have enough of his public statements and tweets to know his point...he is a racist! A bigot with the power to adversely affect the lives of others based on race. He and his sycophants can deny that all they want. Lets be logical Tom, There are not many immigrants in our history that would meet Trumps "MERIT" qualifications to come to America, not even his own peeps. As for his denouncement of the chain migration issue that angered him when the bi partisan bill outline was proposed to him at that meeting, his peeps are as guilty of that as anybody.

    Quote:

    Note that all this trash talk about Trump ;and allegations that he paid off a porn star comes in the wake of the news that the Emperor's DOJ and FBI illegally used the uncollaborated opposition research "Trump Dossier" to obtain FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign.

    The dossier corroborated what the FBI already had on Trump and was not the only basis for the FISA warrant. As for the women in Trumps life... more will be revealed! Pay attention, the rats are jumping overboard!
  • Jan 15, 2018, 09:10 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Pay attention, the rats are jumping overboard!
    I'll bet the king rat isn't jumping overboard. Trump obviously believes he is untouchable.
  • Jan 16, 2018, 09:43 AM
    tomder55
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWkRdb655A
  • Jan 16, 2018, 10:22 AM
    talaniman
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtP_DcsOlMY
  • Jan 16, 2018, 05:18 PM
    paraclete
    I wonder, in referring to s@@thole countries was Trump referring to the alternative form of plumbing often favoured by eastern countries? If so, he was absolutely politically correct. Just thinking this might be a first for him
  • Jan 18, 2018, 10:49 AM
    tomder55
    turns out the words he actually used was sh@t house. He was talking about the countries and not the people . But of course everyone knows it . Most of the countries on D@ck Durbin's list are sh@t holes ;mostly because they are run by sh@t heads . Don't let the progressives on this site fool you . There are many parts of this country they consider sh@t holes .....Just like I consider many parts of this country sh@t holes (like that town full of swamp creature sh@t heads ,Washington DC ). My state capitol ;Albany NY ,is one of the biggest cesspools in the world .
  • Jan 18, 2018, 12:21 PM
    talaniman
    The Dufus is the biggest shat head we have ever elected president. There is no excuse for his behavior, or words, which proves the point, and you wingers will never convince anyone but yourselves that he is not trying turning the whole country into a shat hole. I can't believe the issue is over hole, or house. Completely ignores the vulgar reference to people.

    Deport the fool to Siberia! Of course he is a product of New York! Your hero no doubt.
  • Jan 18, 2018, 04:20 PM
    paraclete
    I see he has now defined more of these places, like Samoa and Belize because the people overstay their welcome and should not be allowed in in the first place, but the numbers are very small in contrast to the millions of Mexicans he has not referred to at all. I'm waiting for him to call Mexico a sh@thole. I also see parts of California want out of the hispanic seaboard, and are trying to form a new state, good luck with that

    the answer is to stop the brain drain from these countries and not allow any migrants from anywhere, Trump has the right idea, build big walls to keep the invaders out, he has plenty of loafers to fill the vacancies already. Put up big we're full signs, they make great walls
  • Jan 19, 2018, 12:39 PM
    tomder55
    Clete the illegals are trying to turn the US into a sh@thole.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9iwjitsNyQ
  • Jan 19, 2018, 02:09 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Clete the illegals are trying to turn the US into a sh@thole.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9iwjitsNyQ

    Undoubtedly a problem and here is a possible solution, build a wall of dumpsters with a sign, deposit your unwanted items here. This has posed a question, why do these immigrants carry all this stuff with them only to throw it away? With rubbish at that level the rubbish would itself become a barrier
  • Jan 20, 2018, 06:24 AM
    talaniman
    Now that the US government is shutdown AGAIN, and everyone is blaming the other guy, will The Dufus stand by his previous statements?

    Trump's comments blaming Obama for 2013 government shutdown resurface | TheHill

    Of course he won't. He should have seen this coming. Oh Happy one year in office Dufus. Hope you enjoy your GALA in Mar A Lago.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-at-mar-a-lago

    I wasn't invited nor was HIS BASE, many of whom couldn't afford it anyway. Will I still get my tax cuts though? Looks like Trump and repubs want America to be a sh1t hole too! First ever shutdown when ONE party had control of the House, Senate, and White House.

    I saw this coming.
  • Jan 20, 2018, 11:02 AM
    tomder55
    let them stay out .1995s shut down was 3 weeks and it wasn't the end of the world ,or the country . In an effort of comity we will no longer call them sh@t hole countries . We will call them Turd World countries .
  • Jan 20, 2018, 04:02 PM
    talaniman
    Glad to see you haven't lost that NY humor. 8)
  • Jan 21, 2018, 05:37 AM
    paraclete
    I ave to say that shutdown doesn't sound bad, you can't spend money in a shutdown, perhaps this is a work of genius, and those poor, little, dreamers, do you think Trump cares?
  • Jan 21, 2018, 05:58 AM
    talaniman
    No he doesn't care about dreamers, and neither does his base. The American people do care, and want them to have a fair shake. They aren't criminals at all, and choose to come out of the shadows, and play by the rules. Paul Ryan, the House leader knows all this, but also knows his caucus will never vote for any DACA fix that allows them to stay, and become citizens. It would embarrass him, and lead to his political downfall to allow a vote that WILL pass for sure in the house, because of DEMOCRATS! That's why Senate dems have refused to support the house bill.

    I don't expect Senate repubs OR The Dufus like he promised to deal with DACA and end this shutdown. That would expose Ryan and House repubs , and deny the repubs of any opportunity to blame demss and holler their US against them rhetoric.

    Will Moron Mitch trigger the nuclear option, and pass the repub bill with a simple majority, instead of requiring 60 votes? NO DOUBT!
  • Jan 21, 2018, 02:52 PM
    paraclete
    Surely this 60 votes is an anachronism that needs change, democracy requires only a majority, but people love to play games
  • Jan 22, 2018, 03:48 AM
    tomder55
    yes it is . The constitution calls for supermajorities in only a couple cases like over writing vetoes and impeachment . The filibuster rule has already been violated by the Dems when they ended it to get some of the emperor's nominees seated . The whole reconciliation process violated the rule . So time to end it if it means a government shut down will result if it is not waived .

    yes it is . The constitution calls for supermajorities in only a couple cases like over writing vetoes and impeachment . The filibuster rule has already been violated by the Dems when they ended it to get some of the emperor's nominees seated . The whole reconciliation process violated the rule . So time to end it to get a budget in place.
  • Jan 22, 2018, 07:42 AM
    talaniman
    So why didn't Moron Mitch simply bring the BI PARTISAN Durbin/Graham bill to the floor for a vote? It was poised to pass the senate with 70 votes, and the house just as easily. Result NO SHUTDOWN.

    Maybe it's the Hastert Rule we should get rid of.
  • Jan 22, 2018, 09:21 AM
    tomder55
    yes along with the idiotic Byrd rule .The trouble with these rules is that the parties want this nonsense in place when it's their time to be in the minority (filibuster ) or the majority (Hastert ) However ;in this case the bill was passed by the House by a significant majority . It was held up by Senate Dems using the filibuster rule to try to force legislation down our throats without any give back by them. Madame Mim was talking about a 'clean' DACA bill at the presser at the White House. She knows that is never going to happen any more than a single legislation to build a wall. The emperor could not get the Democratic majority Congress in 2009-12 to pass get DACA passed . That is why he did it EO in the first place . Now the Dems have shut down the government over the issue . Good luck with that later this year . They care more for the children of illegals than American children killed by illegals . They are holding up pay to our soldiers over the issue .
  • Jan 22, 2018, 10:07 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    I don't expect Senate repubs OR The Dufus like he promised to deal with DACA and end this shutdown.

    Last week they would've had their deal ....except little D@ck Durbin poisoned the well with his unsubstantiated disclosure of Trump's words at a private meeting . A political animal he certainly is... and he knew the Dems would gain more from public exposure of Trump's foul mouth than from any DACA compromise . You see ;the Dems have to plan for a run this year while the economy is red hot ;ISIS (which was beheading journalists and selling Azidi girls into slavery )destroyed as a viable alternative model for governing in the ME ;their dreams of a caliphate destroyed within one year of Trump taking office. The Dems have to get minorities to vote for them even though unemployment rates have dropped;including a black unemployment rate of 6.8% ,a historic low that eluded the emperor . The Dems will not win on issues except for one ....the likability of herr Donald .
  • Jan 22, 2018, 10:41 AM
    talaniman
    They voted to open the government just now. Restart the clock! The battle shifts back to the HOUSE and Punk Paul. This is still The Dufus regime. Is he a Joker, or a Joke.
  • Jan 22, 2018, 10:57 AM
    tomder55
    the Repubics always said they're ready to negotiate on DACA, just not tying it to the budget.
  • Jan 22, 2018, 11:21 AM
    tomder55
    it's very easy . The Dems want DACA . Trump and the Repubics want to end chain migration ;the visa lottery ,and to build a wall. Tie all them together and call it comprehensive immigration reform. But the Dems won't go there . They have stupid leaders like Durbin who said that we shouldn't use the term 'chain migration' because it reminds Blacks that their ancestors came to America in chains . What an idiot !
  • Jan 22, 2018, 01:23 PM
    talaniman
    There's a few more things besides DACA that can go in that deal. Does ending chain migration mean all those pregnant Russian women staying in Trump condos can't have anchor babies?
  • Jan 22, 2018, 01:56 PM
    tomder55
    yes or their 4th cousin twice removed .
  • Jan 22, 2018, 03:33 PM
    paraclete
    Oh what a tangled web you have
  • Jan 22, 2018, 04:00 PM
    tomder55
    yes it is a tangled web . End chain migration and make immigration merit based .
  • Jan 22, 2018, 07:58 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yes it is a tangled web . End chain migration and make immigration merit based .

    By all means, it might reduce the flow once they know they can't bring their relatives
  • Jan 23, 2018, 06:44 AM
    talaniman
    I suppose it's just human nature to run somewhere stake a claim of sovereignty, and then close the door behind you, and try to forget where you came from and why. The disgusting part is to denigrate those who are just doing what you did, which in most cases is based on race, nationality, and a few other things that smack of clear discrimination, that only justifies the uncivil treatment of a fellow human and the policies and laws to deal with them.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ased/98594790/

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ries/98603200/

    I can understand the FEAR some Euro citizens who were immigrants before they were citizens feel today, having gone through the same uncivil treatments when they got here from those that migrated before them, but to keep perpetrating that uncivil treatment today, is an unhealthy cycle that must be stopped. Thanks to The Dufus, being uncivil, nasty and crass is ACCEPTABLE, and that's a sad commentary that bodes a direction through governance of uncivil policy and plans that denigrate us all. While the struggle for civility is nothing new, and it will continue, it illustrates we have a long way to go before we can truly call ourselves civilized.

    That's why you can follow The Dufus and his uncivil ways all you want, most good humans will RESIST that temptation and that RESISTANCE is what will make America great AGAIN!

    Election 2018 will be here before you know it.

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