Ask Me Help Desk - Boycott Germany

Boycott Germany

One of the interesting outcomes of the Greek crisis is the move to boycott Germany

Who's calling on people to 'Boycott Germany'? - BBC News

Interestinly I have been proving how I can live without german products for years, I don't shop at Aldi, I don't drive a BMW or an Audi and I don't have any german products in my home tha I am aware of. However there are interesting implications here of the manner in which Germany, in particular, has shafted the Greeks. They have long forgotten that they were forgiven massive debts after WWII and that austerity like they inflicted on the greeks was the reason for the rise of right wing extremeism in their own nation.

What nonsense ! . I'll make it a point to eat a meal at our local Brauhaus in the next few days . Don't know what other German products I use ,but I'm sure they are made with the highest quality .

Nonsense? No, responsible action by responsible people who have an opinion. You remember opinions Tom, they are like arseholes, everyone has one and sometimes you can't tell the difference

I have no problem with boycotts . It's misguided to blame Germany for the problems the Greeks brought upon themselves .

If the Greeks collected taxes, they wouldn't need as much austerity. They sort of bent themselves over the barrel with that inability.

I agree Tom, the Greeks have had many years to make adjustments, yet they didn't. Not worth me giving up German Chocolate Cake over.

Germany is one of the best run and successful countries in the European Union. They have come a long way to achieve this.

I would suggest Boycotting Greece.

As was mentioned. Germany has gotten where they are through decades of hard work and discipline. They earned their position. Unlike Greece that was run with no discipline or accountability what so ever. And worse protesters thinking they are ENTITLED to free handouts without making ANY changes to everything or anything that got them into the mess to begin with.

If I ran the EU.. I would have told Greece if you want ANYTHING from us again (after several previous bailouts where they changed almost nothing)... these are the terms... take it or leave it. If they complained I'd pull that option from the table altogether. its OUR money and OUR risk... and WE lay down the conditions of any aid.

Smoothy I think that is what was done it remains to be seen whether the will of the greek people is to change after centuries of tax evasion they may just see this as the return of empire

They have a long history of socialist entitlement mentality. It's a hard habit to break... few people there actually know how to be responsible. The mindset as a culture just isn't there. That's not saying it won't ever change... just that its going to be a very hard lesson to learn before they can change. And its going to take some serious hardships before most of them will.

Greece isn't alone with that mindset in Europe...they are just the worst.

Yes it is a legacy of communism and socialist thinking, When I see the VAT there I shake my head but if you can't collect income tax you have to get it somehow, they must be among the laziest people in the world. What I don't get is why they haven't slapped a massive property tax on the place, it is not like socialist governments not to be innovative about collecting taxes

VAT would be ok and preferable, if they eliminated income taxes . But having both is over the line.

What nonsense. The idea of taxation is to extract the maximum fleece from the sheep with a minimum of bleeting. There are various methods for doing this. You can die the death of a thousand cuts or you can give it all up in one blow. VAT is an efficient method of collecting tax unfortunately it is regressive, that is it hurts those least able to pay the most. I thought you were in favour of such methods so as to allow the wealthy to minimise their tax. Greece is an example of tax minimisation gone mad until the rate of tax has to be continually increased because the collection methodology is inefficient. Why do you think we have a tax rate of 10% and they have a rate of 23%? It is because the method of collecting tax operates to collect based both on income and expenditure. They can't collect tax on income effectively so they have a VAT.

You on the other hand have an effective collection methodology, unfortunately the rates are set too low and you run continual deficits which will lead you into the same dilemma as Greece. It si a problem of advanced economies that have sucked on the teat of growth too long

oh yeah ,we are under taxed ...lolololololol !!!! It's always the same story ...it's never that government spending is out of control . It's never that the government makes too many promises to redistribute too much of other people's money . I favor consumption taxes over income taxes . Not every earns income . But people who have money spend it . Consumption taxes also encourages savings ....something EVERYONE says that we don't do enough of .

But if we insist on taxing income ,it should be a single rate /no exceptions ,deductions ,credits etc .

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomder55

oh yeah ,we are under taxed ...lolololololol !!!! It's always the same story ...it's never that government spending is out of control . It's never that the government makes too many promises to redistribute too much of other people's money . I favor consumption taxes over income taxes . Not every earns income . But people who have money spend it . Consumption taxes also encourages savings ....something EVERYONE says that we don't do enough of .

But if we insist on taxing income ,it should be a single rate /no exceptions ,deductions ,credits etc .

Always with the let's tax the poor because it is fair. A VAT certainly fits in your plan so why are you against it. You have a flat rate tax on corporations and it is so ineffective that you have to find a way of taxing the population more effectively, You have Obamacare a tax but is it flat rate or can the rich opt for a higher level of service? No the poor have to be looked after by subsidy so set your flat rate tax at 50% and subsidise the poor, you might balance your budget. I don't think you will because your idiot politicians will still want to glad hand their constituents

Quote:

Always with the let's tax the poor because it is fair.

Maybe you think they should get a free ride ? A VAT taxes exactly the way you like it . The rich spend more and are thus are taxed more .

Quote:

You have a flat rate tax on corporations and it is so ineffective that you have to find a way of taxing the population more effectively

It probably won't suprise you to learn that I think taxing businesses at all is a waste of time and resources . All corporate taxes get passed on to their customers in higher prices so what's the point ?

Tom your ideology stinks, Who do you think created the poor? It is a great shame the French revolution didn't happen in your country. Loping a few founders heads might have made a difference, but the French reverse engineered your idea and look what they came up with. They solved the problem of the rich at least for a while but eventually, like you, they thought they could conquer the world and introduce their system of government and law everywhere

Nothing surprises me about your ideology, By the standard of your thinking your shouldn't tax the population because they will pass it back to the employer in higher wages. You are completely illogical, it is no wonder a person like Trump could think that he would gain support. Your whole system is smoke and mirrors and you wonder why you get nothing done

Quote:

Originally Posted by paraclete

Who do you think created the poor?

Wasn't that the guy that invented the idea of property? A Greek, wasn't he?

Quote:

but the French reverse engineered your idea and look what they came up with.

Napolean's dictatorship

Quote:

it is no wonder a person like Trump could think that he would gain support

Not from me ;Trump is a rent seeking crony corporatist ;the type of business man tailor made for the type of government you like .

Ha Ha Trump could never get anywhere in our political system, We had one like him at the last election, thought he could buy the elctorate, we haven't heard from him in months, it is hard to even remember his name but not many bought a PUP.

Trump's campaign is going to fizzle out very soon . This weekend he attacked John McCain and said he wasn't a war hero.

It's his one foot in mouth moment, and he was applauded for it, in the eyes of his supporters he can do no wrong. Maybe he thinks there arn't that many Vietnam vets who vote republican. What is worrying is a poll has suggested he would be 20 points ahead of Hillary should he win the nomination. A maverick in the White House, a very concerning thought

All S*it, the Repubs. Eat their own. It would be great to see a Real Business Man in the White House. Who started jumping on Trump First? The politicians. McCain is a Sap Sucking Rhino who is looking out for himself and kissing the Dems. A*s. He has been in office way to long and that goes for Scary Kerry, the Medal Tosser.

Quote:

Originally Posted by catonsville

All S*it, the Repubs. Eat their own. It would be great to see a Real Business Man in the White House. Who started jumping on Trump First? The politicians. McCain is a Sap Sucking Rhino who is looking out for himself and kissing the Dems. A*s. He has been in office way to long and that goes for Scary Kerry, the Medal Tosser.

I don't like this type of post. McCain is still a war hero and your comments are harsh.

All of this is off topic anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by catonsville

All S*it, the Repubs. Eat their own. It would be great to see a Real Business Man in the White House. Who started jumping on Trump First? The politicians. McCain is a Sap Sucking Rhino who is looking out for himself and kissing the Dems. A*s. He has been in office way to long and that goes for Scary Kerry, the Medal Tosser.

When you find a real businessman let me know . Trump is a rent-seeking crony corporatist . Besides stirring up everyone over illegal immigration (as if there are any Repubs who are against building a wall); his positions on some key issues are closer to Bernie Sanders than any conservative (ie when he toyed with running before ,he published a paper lauding the Canadian health care system and said we should bring it here . ) .
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczyn...art#.gmvGG2v2J

Quote:

Originally Posted by catonsville

All S*it, the Repubs. Eat their own. It would be great to see a Real Business Man in the White House. Who started jumping on Trump First? The politicians. McCain is a Sap Sucking Rhino who is looking out for himself and kissing the Dems. A*s. He has been in office way to long and that goes for Scary Kerry, the Medal Tosser.

Other than supporting term limits in the Congress, did you have any point other than potty-mouthing?

He is just being negative, he will do it to any front runner

Who brought up Greece and then Trump? Not Me. As far as John McCain goes, I never attacked his military record. Yes, he is a Military Hero. As for his time in the Senate, that is another story, what a loser. Tickle and Cat's meow sorry if I offended you. Term Limits would be the best thing this country could do. Better yet kick the whole, excuse me, (damn) bunch of them out and start over. I know you girls have an exclusive club of member on here but I did think one could speak without getting attacked. It would be much better if some of you could stick to an OP's question and not criticize the OP as I have observed many times on here. You know who you are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomder55

When you find a real businessman let me know . Trump is a rent-seeking crony corporatist . Besides stirring up everyone over illegal immigration (as if there are any Repubs who are against building a wall); his positions on some key issues are closer to Bernie Sanders than any conservative (ie when he toyed with running before ,he published a paper lauding the Canadian health care system and said we should bring it here . ) .
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczyn...art#.gmvGG2v2J

If he published a paper lauding the Canadian Health Care Program then he is all wet. I still would like to see what he can do as Commander in Chief, the pack of others are not up to my liking so far. Words are cheap.

We do like our health care up here. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

We do like our health care up here. :D

No one is trying to take it from you. If you like it that is great, I happen to have liked our medical coverage, before it was kidnapped by the present administration.

Quote:

No one is trying to take it from you.

I know, I didn't infer that at all. I was saying something positive. Your turn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I know, I didn't infer that at all. I was saying something positive. Your turn.

No Problem. See how quickly the subject moves from Germany to Canadian and US Medical Plans. LOL

Current Events has always been that way. No rhyme or reason. Some people live here exclusively.

Quote:

Originally Posted by catonsville

No one is trying to take it from you. If you like it that is great, I happen to have liked our medical coverage, before it was kidnapped by the present administration.

HOW was it kidnapped? Didn't you find BETTER?

Quote:

Originally Posted by catonsville

Words are cheap.

Yes and Trump spews them by the mouthful. His old positions (before he evolved )were in his 2011 book 'The America We Deserve' . It was there that he lauded the Canadian system and proposed it as a model for US health care . It was there that he supported an 'assault gun ' ban. He has also proposed both a one time ,and a permanent tax on the wealthy . He is not a capitalist ,and he is not for free trade . He has proposed 25% taxes on imports (which would come right out of the consumer's pockets ) . Like I said ,he is a crony corporatist . He expands his business by using the power of government .His so called 'art of the deal' is in fact negotiating with governments to curry favors over his competitors . For years he lobbied in NY State to prevent casinos because they would compete with his Atlantic City empire .
He has a history of asking local governments to use the power of eminent domain for his private purposes. He tried it in Atlantic City to expand a parking garage (and in the process attempt to evict an old lady who refused to sell) ;and tried it in Connecticut to condemn five Bridgeport businesses so that he may use the land to build an amusement park;terminal and seaport village and office complex on the east side of the harbor .When SCOTUS decided the Kelo case in favor of using the taking clause of 5th Amendment to enrich private business ;he applauded the ruling .
Yes ,I wouldn't mind a business person in the White House . Romney would've been fine .

You forgot the Trump State Park in NY, Tom,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...ump_State_Park

Quote:

New York State announced the park's closure due to budget cuts in February 2010.^[4]As of 2015, large signs along the nearby Taconic State Parkway continue to direct visitors to Donald J. Trump State Park.^[5] However, a 2015 visit by a film crew found no sign of any recent upkeep; instead, the publicly-accessible land was found to contain crumbling graffiti-covered buildings, empty map kiosks, and weed-choked parking lots

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HQ.1...d=1.9&rs=0&p=0

lol ;The land was donated after Trump was unable to gain town approvals to develop a private golf course on the property .
I'm sure "the Donald" never promised to do the upkeep. Once it goes public ,'the tragedy of the commons' comes into play .

Quote:

Originally Posted by talaniman

You forgot the Trump State Park in NY, Tom,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...ump_State_Park

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HQ.1...d=1.9&rs=0&p=0

What is your point? Did the Donald have the Mowing Contract on the Park?

Some people are just good at looking a gift horse in the mouth