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  • Sep 13, 2014, 01:45 AM
    paraclete
    ISIS terror alerts
    Terror Alert Threats Escalated in Europe - By John Cleese

    The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist threats and have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross."

    The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out.

    Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

    The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's get the Bastards." They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

    The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France 's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

    Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout Loudly and Excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing.." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides."

    The Germans have increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbor" and "Lose."

    Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels...

    The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

    Australia , meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries" to "She'll be right, Mate." Two more escalation levels remain: "Crikey! I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!" and "The barbie is canceled." So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

    -- John Cleese - British writer, actor and tall person

    The americans on the other hand have said the danger is now greater than 9/11 so that means that they are anticpating a large scale attack launched from Syria
  • Sep 13, 2014, 01:54 AM
    NeedKarma
    snopes.com: Alert to Threats in 2013 Europe
  • Sep 13, 2014, 04:06 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post

    Thanks for that karma these things always do the rounds and thanks for the acknowledgement that we terrorise the Brits more than ISIS our fast attack leaves them sprawling with their captain sent home for derelection. The G20 will be here in a few days so Tony, the budgee smugler from down under, Abbott is alarmed but not alert, or is that the other way around, we can never get these things straight because they want to talk the language of dills, a simple tie me kangaroo down sport would have been sufficient, 'nough said

    the footy finals are on this weekend and the dills have security all over the place, like some arab understands it enough to think of bombing it, they can bomb Melbourne AFL if they want to
  • Sep 13, 2014, 08:55 AM
    tomder55
    A problem is small until it is not . Last year they were a rag tag off-shoot of the so called "FSA" . Now they are over 31,000 strong and seemingly growing as exponentially as the Ebola plague in Liberia .

    CIA: ISIS now has an estimated 31,000 fighters - The Week

    Ebola threatens to destroy Sierra Leone and Liberia | Sci-Tech | DW.DE | 11.09.2014

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    The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's get the Bastards." They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
    they are about to tell England to bugger off .
  • Sep 13, 2014, 03:37 PM
    paraclete
    Aye, Jimmy, they want the sassinacs to go home but the scots haven't terrorised anyone since 1745. The scots have their ain tongue and want their ain land. ISIS is like a magnet sucking up muslims who want to confront and the idea of the caliphate appeals, former glories and all that, I can imagine that the thought of them terrorises Assard and Malaki and several other ME despots because their military forces are incompetent, little more than ceremonial posturing whereas ISIS has a plan, a simple plan, eliminate the enemy, a black flag with a black intent, it is fairly easy to explain this plan to the young and stupid. Why did they turn to Iraq, it is because the Syrian army is too strong for them, but a few thousand fighters in Iraq could quickly gain territory where they are not opposed, where the population is sympathetic
  • Sep 14, 2014, 02:12 AM
    tomder55
    Why did they turn to Ir
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    aq, it is because the Syrian army is too strong for them, but a few thousand fighters in Iraq could quickly gain territory where they are not opposed, where the population is sympathetic
    Think of the pipeline ...then it all makes sense why they want to control the land that the alternative to the Qatar-Turkey pipeline would go through.
  • Sep 14, 2014, 03:17 AM
    paraclete
    You suggest they are pawns, but I think they are simpler than that, opportunists, they take over oil fields and do some simple nation building. It is easy to reroute a pipeline to leave Iraq out
  • Sep 14, 2014, 03:26 AM
    tomder55
    You suggest they are pa
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    wns, but I think they are simpler than that, opportunists, they take over oil fields and do some simple nation building. It is easy to reroute a pipeline to leave Iraq out
    I think they are true believers . But their funding comes from the Gulf states ,and they have a clear agenda to run their pipeline through Syria into Turkey. It is not so easy for the 12ers to run their alternative pipeline to Syria bypassing Iraq. They want it to go through Kurdistan and Northern Iraq . That explains ISIS attacks on both regions .
  • Sep 14, 2014, 05:18 AM
    paraclete
    True believers, in what? Mayhem? This is what you get when you disturb established power structures, criminals, terrorists
  • Sep 14, 2014, 05:58 AM
    tomder55
    True believers, in what?

    Salafist jihadism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • Sep 14, 2014, 06:30 AM
    paraclete
    Tom that article doesn't suggest ISIS are part of that grouping, so I think you are drawing a long bow, even the Saudi don't like these people and they have been part of spreading extremist teachings.
  • Sep 14, 2014, 10:45 AM
    tomder55
    the Saudis play a dual game. They want to be traditional monarchs ,but have made a devil's bargain with jihadistan. Make no mistake ,they may not like the Islamic State . But for now ,ISIS serves their interests and are their proxies .
  • Sep 14, 2014, 03:16 PM
    paraclete
    There is always someone playing a double game in the middle east Tom but you are saying the Saudi are state sponsors of terrorism
  • Sep 14, 2014, 04:31 PM
    tomder55
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    but you are saying the Saudi are state sponsors of terrorism?
    duh ;although it doesn't come officially from the regime ... financing comes from wealthy individuals in the regime ...with the kingdom giving it a nod and wink.
  • Sep 14, 2014, 10:27 PM
    paraclete
    An oblique reference to OBL, we are aware that various saudi's have turned up in AQ
  • Sep 17, 2014, 04:30 PM
    paraclete
    Some may wonder why we took the ISIS threat so seriously far from the conflict

    Sydney Christian school targeted by death threats from 'Islamic State' flagged car

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-1...isbane/5752002

    Terror alert to rise as two men arrested after Islamic bookshop raid

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-1...isbane/5752074
  • Sep 18, 2014, 05:04 AM
    tomder55
    good job . When the US broke up terror plots during the Presidency of GW Bush ,the lefties used to dismiss the plot as insignificant . I will not be so cynical . This proves that the Islamic State is the international threat we think they are .
  • Sep 18, 2014, 05:19 AM
    tomder55
    Sec State 'Lurch' JF Kerrry has identified the real reason we should take on the Islamic State... (are your ready ? ) ..... because they don't offer health care !

    Kerry to Code Pink: ‘ISIL is Killing and Raping and Mutilating Women’ | CNS News
  • Sep 18, 2014, 07:03 AM
    NeedKarma
    That's one of the many things he said. Saying that he stated that he "has identified the real reason we should take on the Islamic State... (are your ready ? ) ..... because they don't offer health care ! " is a total falsehood. Did you even read the article?
  • Sep 18, 2014, 09:51 AM
    tomder55
    sure did ;and watched the video too . Here is the relevent passage :

    “I respect the right of Code Pink to protest and to use that right,” he said. “But you know what, I also know something about Code Pink. Code Pink was started by a woman, and women, who were opposed to war but who also thought that the government’s job was to take care of people. And to give them health care and education and good jobs.”
    “And if that’s what you believe in — and I believe it is — then you ought to care about fighting ISIL,” “Because ISIL is killing and raping and mutilating women. They believe women shouldn’t have an education. They sell off girls to be sex slaves to jihadists. . . . And they’re not offering anyone health care of any kind. They’re not offering anyone education of any kind.”

    Maybe the beheaded can apply for coverage on the exchanges. Or maybe the Code Pinko's can volunteer to stand as human shields for the Islamic State.
  • Sep 18, 2014, 10:57 AM
    NeedKarma
    So you omitted his condemning of them selling girls off to be sex slaves, I guess it's because you agree with that.
  • Sep 18, 2014, 04:21 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    good job . When the US broke up terror plots during the Presidency of GW Bush ,the lefties used to dismiss the plot as insignificant . I will not be so cynical . This proves that the Islamic State is the international threat we think they are .

    yes Tom we got this one right and guess what, the Muslims are protesting about government action, that makes them complicit, I think we should start the deportations now, rather than wait until later, interestingly the guy at the head of the beheading plot was an Afghan refugee raised here not some recent blowin, which clearly demonstrates that these terrorists can be radicalised as children, they don't need to come from muslim countries as adults. We have an ad doing the rounds on TV depicting an Australian saying he doesn't think the muslims fit Australian values with a black muslim having the hide to say what is an Australian, well I can tell you he is not somali nor is he nigerian
  • Sep 22, 2014, 06:24 AM
    paraclete
    ISIS has lifted the game to a kill order on infidels, specifically americans, french, australians and canadians, because so many nations oppose them there will be no place on Earth where anyone is safe from the muslim menace and no place on Earth where they are safe, this rhetoric that boots on the ground aren't necessary to bring a swith end to this is nonsense must give way to a measured swift response which is more than a air war
  • Sep 22, 2014, 06:41 AM
    tomder55
    The emperor likens himself to Lincoln. But in this case there is a difference. Lincoln spent most of the war looking for Generals willing to fight it . In this case ,the Joint Chiefs and many former Generals are advising him that to defeat the Islamic State ,"boots on the ground " ,and expanding the geography into Syria is necessary . Even former Obama Def Secs Leon Panetta and Bill Gates came out in support of that yesterday . Panetta also said the the reason the Islamic State rose is because we pulled out of Iraq too quickly .
  • Sep 22, 2014, 07:11 AM
    talaniman
    I don't see congress declaring war, or authorizing troops, Tom. Matter of fact, the congress ran like hell for another vacation before the election.
  • Sep 22, 2014, 07:21 AM
    tomder55
    I did not hear the emperor calling for a declaration. He thinks (and I agree with him) that AUMF covers this .The ironic thing is that he wanted AUMF repealed .
  • Sep 22, 2014, 07:29 AM
    talaniman
    Doesn't matter Tom, congress wouldn't do anything any way. They don't need a presidential directive for congressional actions. They didn't to sue for repeals or start investigations, and could debate and draft legislation when they so choose. They didn't they took a pass at everything until after the election.
  • Sep 22, 2014, 07:33 AM
    tomder55
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    Doesn't matter Tom, congress wouldn't do anything any way
    They did EXACTLY what the emperor requested before they left .
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/19/wo...bate.html?_r=0

    You do realize that the 'do nothing Congress ' charge is beating a dead horse .It has no legs because it is and always was BS. It will not help the Dems in their coming defeat in November .
  • Sep 22, 2014, 07:43 AM
    talaniman
    See ya Nov. 4th then.
  • Sep 22, 2014, 10:19 AM
    tomder55
    btw ,the Senate didn't even have any debate on the issue. They just added $ to the CR . to fund the emperor's request.
  • Sep 22, 2014, 10:54 AM
    talaniman
    To busy trying to get out of Dodge.
  • Sep 23, 2014, 03:29 AM
    tomder55
    The "allies " bombed Raqqa , Syria ,the Islamic state stronghold last night . The allies mentions were UAE Qatar and Bahrain. The only air power I can identify were American Predators,Cruise Missiles launched from American ships. I have seen no reports of how the "allies" contributed .
    The emperor has taken heat from his critis ,and his own allies in the Democrat Party (including 2 former Def Secs),and the compliant press because he has not supported the Kurds were were under siege in Syria to date .
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...527_story.html
  • Sep 23, 2014, 03:40 AM
    tomder55
    BTW ;we will have Baracklock today as the emperor comes into town to speak to the UN about the weather . It got me thinking ........what would've happened if President Bush attacked Syria without at least attempting to get a UN Resolution first ? Imagine the thousands of Code Pinks and their kindred converging on NYC to have a mass anti-war protest .
  • Sep 23, 2014, 06:52 AM
    paraclete
    You just have your own little protest there Tom at least this time what is done isn't based on a lie, but truly attacking an Al Qaeda offshoot, the same people you were supposed to have dealt with in Iraq in the surge, your mistakes are coming back to haunt you and I think this time ISIS might have seen you coming
  • Sep 23, 2014, 07:34 AM
    talaniman
    I think the message is very clear Tom, they will and can be attacked in Syria. For now that's enough of a first step, while making a case for more. We have history as a good guide that mass troop invasions by us is a short term short sighted temporary fix with a high price of blood and treasure we cannot afford that fixes nothing.

    Its not just a war of bombs, planes, and troops, Tom, but more about getting the rest of the middle east on the same page on MANY fronts. Ignoring the regional politics, and policy, is rather foolish in the long term. While the congress of the US continues to dither on yet another vacation before an election. Let not forget that ISIL wasn't the ONLY target of these strikes in Syria. A global threat requires a global solution, not just American troops in ONE country.
  • Sep 23, 2014, 08:12 AM
    tomder55
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    the same people you were supposed to have dealt with in Iraq in the surge
    and so we did until the emperor decided to pull defeat from the jaws of victory .

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    Let not forget that ISIL wasn't the ONLY target of these strikes in Syria.
    besides the Islamic State and the civilians in Raqqa ,who else did we attack ? I could argue that we are supporting Assad in these attacks ;but unfortunately ,our taking out the Islamic State is imperative ;with or without our so called allies .
  • Sep 23, 2014, 08:14 AM
    J_9
    I'm very nervous about this as my son is in Kandahar right now and my sister lives in Dubai UAE.
  • Sep 23, 2014, 09:20 AM
    tomder55
    ok just heard that the attacks were primarily against the Khorasan Group ;which is an AQ linked group that recruits westerners . James Clapper warned about them last week. We are also claiming to have inflicted casualties on the al-Nusra front ....which is another AQ off shoot almost as brutal as the Islamic state ;but also battles the Islamic State in Syria .
  • Sep 23, 2014, 02:24 PM
    talaniman
    On another front they are trying to stop the flow of bootleg oil to Turkey and neutralize support for Assad in Syria from Iran, who is shaking in their boots over Obama's precision bombing in Syria.
  • Sep 23, 2014, 03:16 PM
    paraclete
    I don't think Iran has anything to fear, they may be sponsors of some of these groups but they will help to stabilise Iraq. With so many good targets presenting, the US may as well get whoever they can get in their sights and not waste all that good intelligence, but there is a need not to telegraph the moves as may have been done

    On another note terrorists are everywhere and we should not forget it, Melbourne police shot dead an IS sympathiser who threated the Prime Minister

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