Sometime ago in AMHD timescale we had repeated allegations there was a war on women now there is positive evidence of a war on MEN

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I'm wondering how long it will take for the counter movement to begin, I mean it isn't just the ute or the pickup which is inviolate but we have to strike back hard otherwise we might have to yield the remote, and settle for chardonnay instead of beer. The first blows might have already been struck when on the Block, a TV renovation program, when female contestants could not drive the vehicles provided, unable to stickshift, the mental labour was too much for their tiny brains

Haha! From the comments section:

"...those who were offended were not in the company's target market anyway" - Great statement.

No, it's obvious what the target market is, around here we call them bogans

mass media has been belittling and emasculating men for years.

Not just mass media Tom

ok popular culture too

Yes aren't you fed up with the portrail of Fathers as uncaring D**heads or just plain dills

yes ;the foil ,the dolt ,the one that has to learn life lessons from their children .

Yes the only life lesson I've learned from my children is how bloody minded and selfish they can be

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Yes the only life lesson I've learned from my children is how bloody minded and selfish they can be

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My experience is the opposite.

You are extremely fortunate

I know I am, however I like to think I had a hand in that good fortune.

You can't always control these things

You can't control anything or anyone. Hell you barely have control over yourself. You can control the TV with a remote though.

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Yes aren't you fed up with the portrail of Fathers as uncaring D**heads or just plain dills

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I fought that war and won. I got an ad removed from a major company from ever airing again. It is bad enough that the courts (here in America) have an automatic sentence for divorcing dads that have children. It is part of the feminizing going on. We cant even let children play because of hurt feelings. We have lost sight of coping skills in our youth today because of the seperation and prevalence of divorce.

Yes Dad I agree divorce has a devastating impact on family and children and should be a last resort, not the first but what can you do in a me society, children aren't taken into account

In some respects (atleast here) they have made divorce too easy. If a couple has children then there should be a mandatory waiting period and couseling provided there hasnt been violence in the home. That way there can be a cooling off and healing period if needed.

Yes all for that, the mandatory part, anyway because once the process starts getting the other party into counselling is very difficult

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Yes all for that, the mandatory part, anyway because once the process starts getting the other party into counselling is very difficult

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That is why you would make it mandatory. That way if the other party wishs to refuse it they can but then why should they have the children if they arent going to co operate with the other parent in raising them. It is just one of the early signs that the children are headed for a troubled youth if the parents cant co operate.

Who pay for all that counseling, and what of those that cohabitate instead of marry? What happens to the kids if counseling doesn't work but just delays the inevitable? It may be easier to get a divorce, but divorce is no easy thing to go through.

Nice theory, but I believe just one symptom of crumbling, failed institutions. Half of marriages failing has been a reality before they made divorces easier. Good luck with trying to stop humans from multiplying, by mandatory structuring rules and regulations.

Who said anything about stopping multiplication although restrictions on age and number would seem a way to get better outcomes, no, the idea of marriage needs rethinking, there should be real penelties for breaking the marriage contract not just a give women the assets and we need to rethink the permissive society where you can just cohabit with whoever you want

The idea of marriage is being rethought, and good luck making restriction on cohabiting with whomever you want. People seem to like free choice. All aspects of life are kind of raggedy right now following the GFC. Hard to be happy when you have been robbed of house and income and kicked to the curb.

The "father knows best" days have been long gone, and not all the men now have assets the woman just takes.

Who pay for all that counseling, and what of those that cohabitate instead of marry? What happens to the kids if counseling doesn't work but just delays the inevitable? It may be easier to get a divorce, but divorce is no easy thing to go through.


The persons going through divorce or through first time custody of children when born in cihabitation. If they cant afford it then there should be services available on a sliding scale.

Inevitable is not part of the equation. The part that counts is the learning of co-parenting. Without that and having the ability to co operate then the children stand a much better chance at this world.

I dont see why the courts seem to think that mom knows best when it seems there are so many out of control children and dads that are being treated like walking wallets. It is just not working. Why is it that every time there is extreme violence they ask where the dads are at but the courts put them in a position to not participate? Doesnt sound right to me but it happens every day in family court.

It is the ultimate form of discrimination.

There is finally a good Cheerios commercial where the dad is not portrayed as a fat, irresponsible moron, it's pretty refreshing to see.