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Why oh why are we allowing this to happen? We are being flooded with children due to this administrations briliance yet again. Where is the money going to come from this time? How do we stop it?
Obama's 'amnesty' for illegal immigrant minors sparks TWELVE-FOLD spike in numbers pouring across border | Mail Online
Obama, Mexico Facilitate Illegal Immigration: 300 More Illegal Migrant Kids Flood U.S. Border - Shark Tank
The TV newscaster I heard this from said their parents are already in the U.S.? So why were the children still in Mexico (and SA)? And who would let all these lttle kids fend for themselves, crossing the Rio Grande AND the desert? Who is masterminding this?
THey should ALL be rounded up and dumped off in Venezuela no matter where they came from.
Not the children, but the adults who are making this happen.
ALL of them need to go back to where they belong. If they can't follow the law and the legal way and apply FROM THEIR HOME COUNTRY... not one single one of them deserves to be here at all ever.
Im not sure as to the exact origins of all of them but our southern neighbors seem to be dumping them here. It is yet another entitlement gone awry. The parents of these children should never be allowed into this country as what they are currently doing is child abuse on a international level. If there is no way to send them back then we should atleast bill the country of origin for them being here. It is insanity beyond imagination.
I know I for one am absolutely sick and tired of paying THOUSANDS of dollars a year in higher property taxes because the schools are overflowing with people that legally don't even belong here to begin with.
On the 5:30 news, a Guatemalan woman with a toddler said she was told that the US is eagerly inviting women and children to this country. I missed who is saying that.
The Obama administration is south of the border. Its another ploy a voter fraud by stuffing polling places with people what never should have been allowed here since they see the writing on the wall and votor ID is coming and the dead can't vote any longer and people can't vote under a number of names any longer. So they hand out green cards in exchange fopr votes to people who have no concept of the law because they refuse to follow it.
I am pretty sure that the children are not following their parents ;but instead are being sent ahead of them. The emperor and his minions will then make the case that we should allow the parents in so as to not separate families.
This is a humanitarian crisis that is caused exclusively by the lack of seriousness by the adm in securing the border .
How could we possibly reject big-eyed children?
It is easier then you think when you are overwhelmed at the level of resources. You have to deny one so another can live. If your forced to make a choice then you make it.
I can do it easy... I work damn hard for my money... I pay damn high taxes... taxes that are far higher than they would have to be if they rounded up all the illegals and sent them back across the border.
My feeling is... YOU BREED THEM, YOU FEED THEM.
I don't want to.
It's bad enough I have to pay for the lazy people that belong here....I'll be damned if I am going to be supportive about paying for those who have no right to be here too. Send them home and let them starve there. They are their problem, not ours.
can we send our unwanted kids there too?
As an unprecedented wave of undocumented children from Central America spills over our Texas border, a veteran lawmen's organization has declared it an "orchestrated" event. If so, who benefits?
To date, there hasn't been a word from the White House or its agencies urging families in Honduras, Guatemala or El Salvador not to send their children alone through Mexico's merciless badlands infested with cartel criminals to reach the U.S. There's some Twitter activity and little else.
But the newspapers and television stations throughout Central America are falsely reporting that amnesty will be theirs if they can just make it through the Mexican obstacle course — and that the time to do it is now.
It doesn't matter that these children are likely to succumb to desert heat, be snatched by vicious human traffickers, forced into prostitution, slavery or the drug trade, or simply murdered as has already happened to thousands, as the white crosses at the border can attest.
Not since the radio broadcasts that triggered Rwanda's Tutsi massacres in 1994 has such false information been spread unchecked by authorities who might be able with just their words to make a difference.
U.S. embassy websites still have no warnings to Central Americans about not sending children north, and until recently the U.S. embassy in Guatemala's website prominently featured links to President Obama's campaign website with his speech declaring to Guatemalans that "our immigration system is broken."
So no wonder the National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers, after 50,000 apprehensions of border crossers in south Texas, declared this week that "certainly we are not gullible enough to believe that thousands of unaccompanied minor Central American children came to America without the encouragement, aid and assistance of the United States government."
An Orchestrated Immigration Wave At The Texas Border? Not So Paranoid To Think So - Investors.com
The tinfoil hat types are posting on various blogs that the President does not want to provide green cards and votes any longer, but that he's looking for more of the wackos too far gone for the Bundy ranch to start a massacre that he can declare a "National Emergency" and suspend elections. As self-centered as Mr. Obama is portrayed, this idea is not being discounted anymore.
I think his next argument will be 'family values' . You can't keep these kids from their parents ;so they should be allowed entry next .
Meanwhile NRO is reporting the MS-13 members are amongst the 'youths ' gaining entry .
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-ryan-lovelace
Moving people north to America is a BIG business in south and central Americas, and is happening all over the world NOT just here. People are always fleeing gangs, drug lords and wars, looking for a safe place and it's a huge issue all over.
Hell, most of the American citizens have ancestors who were running from something and came here. NOTHING!! What's changed since the great European migration and the Cuban one after, or the latinos recently. Now its Central Americans and whose hollering the most? The former immigrants.
Except most of our ancestors followed the law and came here legally... not illegaly. HUGE difference.
There was hardly any law when your ancestors came here smoothy.
Of course former imigrants are going to hollar as they did it in a legal fashion. Why would you support such a movement that carries with it god knows what by storming the country and making demands on its current citizens. They need to send each and every one of them back to send a message to the countries of origin.
THey (our ancestors) didn't break any laws then did they... we've had laws since before the USA was the USA, its not like there wasn't any laws until 20 years ago, or last week. These trash ARE breaking current laws. And they have no respect for any other laws euther.
I just told smoothy his folks came before all these laws, and probably so did yours as many of mine did too, so because you came first you get to say who is legal and who is not. What if the laws now were the same for the new immigrants as the old ones?
Then they wouldn't even be illegal.
I can't speak for Smoothy ,but my ancestors did some time on Ellis Island being documented and screened for disease.Quote:
There was hardly any law when your ancestors came here smoothy.
Mind did too... they ALL arrived here after WW I from the UK and Germany, and at that time... they all came through Ellis Island.
Its funny how one set of immigrants treats other immigrants so much differently than they themselves were treated.
We found a solution and perhaps if you followed a successful solution the flow would stop.
We did two things, one we insist on offshore processing of illegal arrivals and two we return any boats to point of origin if it can be confirmed. Along with this is our insistence that if you arrive illegally you will not be allowed to settle here even if you are a refugee. The message got through after a short time and the flow stopped. This may not address the humanitarian crisis if it exists but it stops the flow
Funny how one set of immigrants thinks the law doesn't apply to them and they are somehow above it... and no its not a side effect of speaking the spanish language (at least thats the lions share here in the USA).
It's a simple thing to change the law, since it was changed after you got here to keep undesirables out, by making what they have always done illegal. But what would one expect from the example of immigrants who wrote all men are created equal except certain ones who were defined as less than men. We seem to have a history of making exceptions and obstacles, for the less than.
smoothy desperate people do desperate things and so your PR has to be greater than those who lie and exploit them. Illegal immigration is a criminal activity it isn't just poor people crossing a border and whether it is the US, Europe or Australia, the tale is the same, take the enabliers out of the equation and the flow stops. In Europe they havn't stopped them because they are not sending them back. In the US you have to catch them and you have the population of a small country who are illegal and sympathetic. Stop enabling them, stop employing them, but here we have stopped them because they know that they can no longer succeed. They become very angry when they learn how they were decieved by the criminals
I will try AGAIN to explain to you that the 3/5th compromise was a way to dilute the influence that the slave states have in the Republic. On second thought ...why bother ? We are destined to see you post this lie about the clause whenever it suits your purpose to diminish the founders of this country .Quote:
But what would one expect from the example of immigrants who wrote all men are created equal except certain ones who were defined as less than men.
Long after the founding fathers have compromised we are still dealing with all men are created equal except who they say is not.
again, you are making it up . Our immigration laws favor minority admission.
Our immigration laws favor cheap labor, and corporate interest. Even you have admitted the disparity in the process over time.
The haters are out in full force on this father's day. Sad indeed.
I'd say it's your position on immigration that favor that . I am in favor of restricting immigration to numbers that don't encourage cheap labor .. You not so much. How can you say you're a proponent of African American labor when you openly encourage unrestricted cheap labor entering the country ? Yeah the Chamber of Commerce favors it as do big business. But we've already established that Big Business contributes mightily to the Democrat coffers .Quote:
Our immigration laws favor cheap labor, and corporate interest. Even you have admitted the disparity in the process over time.
The perception is that the Dems have the monopoly on empathy and caring for minority rights . But that is a cruel illusion. If you examine their polices instead of listening to their speeches ,that becomes quite clear .3 members of the US Civil Rights Commission said that a Senate bill to give amnesty would disproportionately hurt African Americans.
"Illegal immigration to the United States in recent decades has tended to depress both wages and employment rates for low-skilled American citizens, a disproportionate number of whom are black men," ..."Expert economic opinions concerning the negative effects range from modest to significant. Those panelists that found modest effects overall nonetheless found significant effects in industry sectors such as meatpacking and construction."
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/f...tter042013.pdf
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NK as usual you contribute nothing to the debate ..
My immigration stance doesn't depress wages, corporations do, and after running all over the world to get cheap labor it would make no difference what the immigration policy was. So lets not confuse the lust of profits with a living wage or even the fantasy of entry level wages when there is a depressed job market. That's just what you get when corporations are people too, and can write law for the government.
Bet Cantor makes more money being a lobbyist than he did being a lawmaker. Oh that's right he made no laws, just obstructed laws that benefited middle class, main street victims, who got robbed and mugged by big money during the financial crisis.
And just for facts the drug war and stop and frisk hurts minorities a lot more than fair immigration policy. The financial melt down hurt minorities more than a fair immigration policy. The rising cost of every darn thing hurts all the middle class people that have had no raise in a decade. Subsidizing the labor costs and taxes of multibillion dollar companies is what hurts the working poor. You want people to worker harder and make the boss more money, then talk about how lazy and worthless they are.
That's what wrong with republicans nowadays. And that who hurt minorities and hard working people EVERYWHERE.
Don't care, I post what I want. The righties here are a broken record of "blame all ills on liberals".Quote:
NK as usual you contribute nothing to the debate ..
one cliché talking point after another .. you are a broken record.Quote:
My immigration stance doesn't depress wages, corporations do, and after running all over the world to get cheap labor it would make no difference what the immigration policy was. So lets not confuse the lust of profits with a living wage or even the fantasy of entry level wages when there is a depressed job market. That's just what you get when corporations are people too, and can write law for the government.
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Bet Cantor makes more money being a lobbyist than he did being a lawmaker. Oh that's right he made no laws, just obstructed laws that benefited middle class, main street victims, who got robbed and mugged by big money during the financial crisis
I favor his ousting . He was just another big government representative.
complete nonsense . The facts get in the way of your screed . Here is the headlines since the commie mayor ended stop and frisk.Quote:
stop and frisk hurts minorities
Shootings in some of the city's most dangerous neighborhoods are up this year over last, NYPD figures show - NY Daily News
Those are the minority neighborhoods that have seen the increase in blood shed . More evidence that the left don't give a damn about minorities. 43 % increase in shootings since stop and frisk ended as a policy .
You have never seen those words in my posts .Quote:
You want people to worker harder and make the boss more money, then talk about how lazy and worthless they are.
Tal, your "fair immigration policies" are just as ineffective as Tom's "restricting immigration" because neither viewpoint addresses the cause of the problem. The INS has made it impossible for legal immigration applications to be processed in any sort of reasonable amount of time. The 10 year figure officially used is reasonable, except that filing the application now takes three years, getting it accepted now takes another two (unlawfully, it's supposed to be accepted if no action is taken within 90 days), and the whole process starts from zero if a comma is misplaced or an accent mark faces the wrong way. Tal can argue that Govcorp has designed the process to not work that way and Tom can argue that the bloated bureaucracy has made the legitimate process untenable. You'd both be correct, but the current legal process is causing the illegal one.
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