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Hello again,
Don't MISUNDERSTAND me, as I'm sure you will anyway. It's NOT the reprehensible behavior of the cop involved.. It's that EVERYBODY else in the system GAVE him a pass. That makes THEM as guilty as the lousy cop.
If you're squeamish, don't watch the video.Quote:
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For once I agree with you. Problem is that the citizens will end up paying a lot of money but the cop nor the police force will suffer any consequences for his behavior. Fire cop and chief of police and these things would cease.
Sadly you almost never see a case where a cop who uses excessive force is ever found guilty of the offence. Even in the rare situations where it happens, they get some wimpy non-punishment like a transfer, a few days suspension with pay or an absolute discharge, which means that legally, it never happened.
This is sooooo wrong. That cop should lose everything. I bet its not the first time either.
Speaking of rogue cops, it seems that besides running guns to Mexico the ATF has a penchant for grooming their own criminals and then busting them.
Read the examples, I find it all quite disturbing and indicative of a bureaucracy run amok. Maybe you guys should be less worried about ordinary citizens having guns and more about government agencies gone rogue.Quote:
Aaron Key wasn't sure he wanted a tattoo on his neck. Especially one of a giant squid smoking a joint.
But the guys running Squid's Smoke Shop in Portland, Ore., convinced him: It would be a perfect way to promote their store.
They would even pay him and a friend $150 apiece if they agreed to turn their bodies into walking billboards.
Key, who is mentally disabled, was swayed.
He and his friend, Marquis Glover, liked Squid's. It was their hangout. The 19-year-olds spent many afternoons there playing Xbox and chatting with the owner, "Squid," and the store clerks.
So they took the money and got the ink etched on their necks, tentacles creeping down to their collarbones.
It would be months before the young men learned the whole thing was a setup. The guys running Squid's were actually undercover ATF agents conducting a sting to get guns away from criminals and drugs off the street.
The tattoos had been sponsored by the U.S. government; advertisements for a fake storefront.
The teens found out as they were arrested and booked into jail.
Earlier this year when the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel exposed a botched ATF sting in Milwaukee — that included agents hiring a brain-damaged man to promote an undercover storefront and then arresting him forhis work — ATF officials told Congress the failed Milwaukee operation was an isolated case of inadequate supervision.
It wasn't.
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I have no words for that article. It just disgusts me so badly.
There are rogue cops everywhere and they must be found and removed from positions of authority. Obviously this officer used excessive force, but not being there we can only say his actions may have been inappropriate. The outcome shows unnecessary injury but when you fall against an immoveable object something has to give.There are some people who just loose control and I'm speaking of those on both sides of the law.
if you haven't faced someone who has totally lost it then you are very fortunate
The CIA was the original rogue agency. BILLIONS spent on stings so elaborate and so full of things like massive money laundering, that the people involved couldn't stop living the life. Lots of news about this 30, 40 years ago.
Maybe it trickled down.
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That video disturbs me. They keep telling her to look at the camera, before they slam her into her cell it seems she was trying to ask where the camera was. I'd ask that too. What camera. Tell me where it is and I'll look into it.
Instead of being calm, giving instruction, they literally threw her into her cell, against the cement bed/bench.
Just disturbing on every level. I hope she wins her law suit.
Police candidates are drawn from the middle, lower-middle class and the psychological screening is abyssmal. While most blue-collar workers do just fine, there's an element who join for the badge and gun - ultimate symbols of street authority.
The good ones start out good, but it's not easy to avoid the corruption, small in the beginning, that pops up to any group in such power.
Sad to say, the best thing to happen re police forces in this country is the video camera possessed by the ordinary citizen.
your problem is you have too many police forces, too many people feeling they have to perform. you sound like you fear your police and it shouldn't be like that
I don't fear our police, but this is disturbing on too many levels.
yes disturbing glad I don't live in a police atate
I gotta admit I didn't expect the party pooper in chief to turn the Park Service into his enforcers during the shutdown theater.
You should have thought about that before you shut the government down.
Hello again,
You saw THIS, didn't you???? Cop fires at minivan full of kids after traffic-stop scuffle in New Mexico.
I HATE them... I REALLY do..
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Tal, it is your side that wants to shut it down again.
Yes, I saw the other video, too, and they also have a propensity to shoot people's dogs. Time to clean it up.
I saw the entire video, and the cop that stopped her bent over backward to explain to this woman all she had to do was take the speeding citation and go about her business, even though her license was expired. Not excusing the cops at all after that but damn that was a pretty dumb way to handle a traffic stop all around.
Maybe, but shooting over a traffic stop was even more stupid.
I totally agree. I am disgusted at the cops, but it was stupid to even put your kids in that position. Lose/Lose situation.
Speechless - it wasn't over a traffic stop. It was about a woman fighting and resisting the police, and her teenage son assaulting the police. Big difference.
Irrespective, excessive force, police are trained to deal with these situations not go nuts! it's difficult but not impossible not to use brute force. We have a case here of four wallopers tasering a drug soaked youth of hispanic background to death, why? because he falled to stop when commanded, Ok, he did the wrong thing, stole a packet of biscuits but four brave wallopers each twice his size chased him down the street and tasered him to death. If I came from a repressive regime and had four wallopers chasing me I might fail to stop too, particularly if I didn't understand their commands. We don't call them wallopers for nothing
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I get she resisted, but surely the big bad cops can get them without shooting first.
There would be no issue if the cops had restrained from shooting. Glad he was fired and hope he stays fired.
I think there are many good cops that are in it because they want to make a difference. At the same time, I know there are plenty of bad cops as well. They get on ego trips, power trips, whatever you want to call it. I have encountered some of them in my life. 5 years ago, I had to sue the cops because of an incident I had with them.
Abusing power is too easy for cops and too often, it is just their word over yours. Why would they lie? Police would NEVER lie.....
It's really sad that this goes on but I suppose it's human nature. I just learned to never lay down for the police, but sometimes that really isn't an option.
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