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We haven't spoken of what is happening in Egypt and we seem to have forgotten Syria. Why is that? Are these places of no interest just because americans don't have troops on the ground. Perhaps we need another benghazi to awaken you to the potential of Al qaeda gaining a fruitfull recruiting ground. I expect that is what will happen when the Muslim Brotherhood is banned once again
The more Muslim brotherhood troglodytes get killed... the better it is for Eqypt and the world.
What else is there to say ? What is happening there was predictable from the day the emperor made his speech to Cairo University when he invited members of the Ikhwan to sit in the front rows.
If that is so Tom I wonder why you haven't been reminding us of it. Nothing is predictable, who expects a bloodless coup, yes the violence afterwards is predictable but if everything is so predictable then there is no need for us to say anything in these threads
Smoothy you may be right on a certain level, less recruits for al qaeda but remember they think the same thing about your own people
K you want a reaction ? The Ikhwan have been marking Coptics homes ,churches and businesses with crosses for the purpose of the destruction of the structures and the extermination of the Copts .32 churches were destroyed and 19 severely damaged in less than a week .They marched nuns through streets as if they were prisoners of war.
Idiots like John McLame and Goober Lindsey Graham are siding with the Brotherhood... and the emperor is pretending he isn't taking sides .
The Copts did nothing to provoke this Kristallnacht like reaction . If the Morsi faction had retained power this extermination /cleansing would be state policy... and it will be if they are returned .The western press portrays the Brotherhood as the victims . Like in 1938 ,the press is largely mum about this atrocity .
What the copts did was side with the army in the coup and the muslim will retaliate it is their nature. Our government is about to change immigration rules to invite the copts to settle here. It would certainly be better than muslim immigrants. I have though for a long time we should allow the oppressed Christian minorities of Iraq, Syria and other Muslim nations to settle here
Like I said "If the Morsi faction had retained power this extermination /cleansing would be state policy ". What choice do the Copts have in Egypt ?Quote:
what the copts did was side with the army in the coup and the muslim will retaliate it is their nature.
When Muslims were the target of such cleansing in Bosnia ,the western world went to war in their defense.
Well they obviously have good lobbiests to get your military off its backside but then they don't need much excuse. You understand as I do that money talks and so does oil and unfortunately the muslims are sitting on most of the oil. No one would care if that wasn't so. The world wants to ignore what the muslims do to each other, but let "Christians" raise a hand against muslims and everyone gets up tight anyway the Balkans was right in NATO's backyard and couldn't be ignored
Not quite , the US is sitting on known reserves that would make us independent if we made a policy decision to tap into it .Quote:
and unfortunately the muslims are sitting on most of the oil
Why use yours when you can use someoneelse's, you have heard of strategic reserves, think of it as a strategic reserve
Nah ,time to tap into our resourses and stop funding jihadistan.
The plan is suck theirs dry first... then they can go back to farming sand...Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
That's the idea, they use their wealth building follies, and when they are finished they will have nothing but monuments to follyQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
It is a foolish policy if that were true . We have the means to become energy independent now .
Independence for a short time, then what, and at what cost?
We have know reserved for 200 years . Do you really think that petrol will be the fuel 200 years from now ?
No we will have developed electric vehicles but maybe we will stop this mad whizzing around the country and use electronic communication. Whatever it all requires energy and the oil companies will drain the last drop
That's what they said about whale oil. I think you Aussies should be on the cutting edge of harvesting methane hydrate and developing it as an alternative .
Electric will cars will always be a fringe industry . It requires the harvesting of rare earth metals (often mined in some of the world's perpetual conflict zones like Congo and Central America )and you still need a carbon based power plant to charge the batteries .
Tom we have vast reserves of LPG but no wish to run our vehicles on "gas", we have vast reserves of coal and no wish to stop using it, we don't possess vast reserves of oil and so alternatives to the petroleum driven vehicles of today must be found. We have vast reserves of uranium and so should develop electric power and alternatives to today's battery technology
I think you meant to say Natural gas... LPG is liquified Petroleum Gas (known as Propane) a byproduct of oil.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Gasoline can be produced from Natural gas or coal... just not as cheaply as from crude oil.
We refer to it as LPG when used to drive vehicles we have both natural gas and coal seam gas anyway the point is there are parts of the world where vehicles are gas fueled but we have not adopted itQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Why not ? It burns clean .Quote:
Tom we have vast reserves of LPG but no wish to run our vehicles on "gas",
Of course ,modern designed breeder reactors are the way to go .Quote:
We have vast reserves of uranium and so should develop electric power and alternatives to today's battery technology
Convenience, you have to fill up more often and there have been some unfortunate incidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I agree but we are slow adopters atomic energy hasn't got beyond the experimental stage here, cost, nuclear has a higher long run cost than coal, and waste disposal, no one wants it in their back yard,besides we now have a million homes with solar, so no need for new power stationsQuote:
Of course ,modern designed breeder reactors are the way to go .
That's where that vaunted infrastructure investment makes sense . There aren't many liguified gas autos here ,but in many places mass transit has converted .Quote:
convenience, you have to fill up more often and there have been some unfortunate incidents
Yes we are plagued by NIMBYism too. The good news is that Fast Breeder reactors recycle the nuke waste ,and there is very little disposal.Quote:
and waste disposal, no one wants it in their back yard,
There is LPG and LNG. Most that run in industry are LPG based. LNG is also used in some cars but you have to have a place to get it as it is not a readily available as LPG. LNG can be made by compressing natural gas into a liquid. They use that same technique in home units to power cars as they refuel overnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Owebamas Brother linked to the Muslim Brotherhood.
NEW YORK – President Obama's half-brother in Kenya could cause the White House more headaches over new evidence linking him to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and establishing that controversial IRS supervisor Lois Lerner signed his tax-exempt approval letter.
Malik Obama's oversight of the Muslim Brotherhood's international investments is one reason for the Obama administration's support of the Muslim Brotherhood, according to an Egyptian report citing the vice president of the Supreme Constitutional Court of Egypt, Tehani al-Gebali
Obama's brother linked to Muslim Brotherhood
Hehe.. WND.. that'll rot your brain.
NPR, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC is what rots the brain...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
"Get off my lawn!"
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I haven't finished yet... where did I put that roll of paper at? :)
No more than MSNBC will.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
One name... John Edwards... how many of the experts of the left wing media were defending him and for how long after the National Enquirer broke the news of his fooling around?
At least Bill Clinton had the common sense to not knock them up.
You think Bill Clinton had common sense, he debased the office of President, what a dill! At least Edwards did what he did as a private citizenQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Oh trust me I didn't think he had much... not then.. not now. He just had more than Edwards had.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
So Egypt is getting more violent and so is Syria, will they use gas in Egypt I wonder and could the gas used in Syria be part of Saddam's stockpile?
It is... we've always known much of Saddam's stuff crossed that border.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
So you are saying Syria doesn't possess any WMD of its own Considering that Iraq was invaded because of the presence of these weapons can we expect invasion of Syria anytime soon or has the US retreated from its policy of pre-emptive strikes.
Both Egypt, and Syria refused to sign an international treaty to ban the use of Sarin gas. Both are known too have huge stockpiles. The question in Syria is who is using it and is it just to bring in others to help the rebels, and until Egypt gets its brotherhood problem solved there can be no peace. You better hope the Egyptian army succeeds.
I think they have the capability of succeeding, there are probably less arms floating around there and while the country is large the habitation is really concentrated and more capable of being controlled. The Muslim Brotherhood would need outside help to get something going that has any chance of success.
I don't think there is any question in Syria as to who is using it, it is being delivered by artillery. Assard is proving that Shiites are capable of anything
Yup.. it smells like a false flag to me . Assad's forces are winning . Why would he risk international reaction with a chemical attack ?Quote:
The question in Syria is who is using it and is it just to bring in others to help the rebels
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