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Hello:
I'm not really happy with him.. There's a LOT he could be doing and SHOULD be doing. I'd really like to discuss that. But, instead of THAT conversation, I find that I have to defend him against all the STUPID crap the righty's invent, like birth certificates, and communism..
If you want to talk about his REAL failures, and NOT him being a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, post.
excon
Well obviously he was a muslim born someplace else but you never going to know cause the boy has done it well risen through the ranks which is what that place is all about, well some people think so anyway
Hello clete:
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excon
So you watched the speech.
What's really beginning to disturb me most is he doesn't take any of this stuff seriously. And neither do you. But anyway, instead of us talking about his faulres, how about talking up his successes?Quote:
They'll talk about government assistance for the poor, despite the fact that they've already cut early education for vulnerable kids, they've already cut insurance for people who've lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Or they'll bring up Obamacare — this is tried and true — despite the fact that our businesses have created nearly twice as many jobs in this recovery as businesses had at the same point in the last recovery, when there was no Obamacare. That's what we've been fighting for, but with an endless parade of distractions, political posturing and phony scandals, Washington has taken its eye off the ball. And I am here to say this needs to stop. This needs to stop.
Hello Steve:
Couple things..Quote:
What's really beginning to disturb me most is he doesn't take any of this stuff seriously. And neither do you.
I wasn't being facetious when I said that if my president is a crook, I want to know about it.. If my government is corrupt, I want to know about it.. But, you're right. I'm not disturbed by unfounded allegations for which there is NO proof.
I AM disturbed about a LACK of a Middle East policy. I AM disturbed about unemployment. I AM disturbed about broken bridges and crumbling infrastructure. I AM disturbed about the widening disparity between the middle class and the rich. I AM disturbed about the power of the banks. I AM disturbed about a congress who wants to SHUT down government instead of make it work.
Finally, I'm disturbed about Obama's INABILITY to get anything through congress. Yes, the Republicans are intransigents. But, I BELIEVE Obama could have broken through. I don't think he knew HOW to do it. Maybe if he had spent more time in the Senate.
But, if you tell me that he didn't kill Bin Laden, and he DID kill our ambassador in Ben Ghazi, I'll holler NEXT to you too.
Excon
Here is the emperor May 15Quote:
with an endless parade of distractions, political posturing and phony scandals
"I've reviewed the Treasury Department watchdog's report, and the misconduct that it uncovered is inexcusable," he said. "It's inexcusable, and Americans are right to be angry about it, and I am angry about it. I will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency, but especially in the IRS, given the power that it has and the reach that it has into all of our lives. And as I said earlier, it should not matter what political stripe you're from -- the fact of the matter is, is that the IRS has to operate with absolute integrity. The government generally has to conduct itself in a way that is true to the public trust. That's especially true for the IRS."
Hello tom:
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excon
Granting Holder executive privilege over Fast and Furious, in which people died and are still dying, should piqué your curiosity. Sending out his minions with known false talking points, then standing before the UN two weeks later with those same false talking points, should make you suspicious. The IRS admitting the unlawful targeting of certain groups should pi$$ you off no matter how high it goes. But none of this is evidence of anything that demands answers?
Anyway, you're right, he hasn't had many successes.
See what I mean... I think he is doing all these community organizing speeches about the economy to distract from the fact that he is running an incompetent and corrupt Presidency. I heard his address yesterday ,with all his blame shifting and I said... aint nothing there... NEXT
Hello again, Steve:
You're right. It's NOT evidence.. It's right wingers flapping their gums.Quote:
But none of this is evidence of anything that demands answers?
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Excon
Speaking of the Holder Justice Dept... he made a speech in Philly yesterday where he basically tells SCOTUS to stuff it .Even though SCOTUS found preclearance for voting changes unconstitutional ;he is planning on forcing Texas and other states to still comply with the provision of the Voting Rights Act.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/26/us...e-us.html?_r=0
The emperor is running a rogue regime.
As I said, you aren't taking it seriously. The only reason is it isn't a Republican president.
Hello again, tom:Nahhh.. You didn't read the important parts..Quote:
The emperor is running a rogue regime.
Ain't nothing rogue about enforcing the law. Say goodby to the rush to suppress the vote, I mean voter ID.Quote:
Even as Congress considers updates to the Voting Rights Act in light of the court’s ruling, we plan, in the meantime, to fully utilize the law’s remaining sections to subject states to preclearance as necessary. My colleagues and I are determined to use every tool at our disposal to stand against such discrimination wherever it is found.
When I spoke about Obama not DOING anything, THIS is something he DOING, and it's the RIGHT thing.
Excon
SCOTUS said preapproval was unconstitutional . Holder is ignoring it . He like the emperor have become laws unto themselves. This isn't the 1st time they've picked and chose which laws they'd enforce.. or not .Quote:
Ain't nothing rogue about enforcing the law.
Hello again, Steve:
I don't know how many times you want me to say it, but the ONLY reason is there's no PROOF. It's not difficult.Quote:
As I said, you aren't taking it seriously. The only reason is it isn't a Republican president.
Excon
I get it, you lefties want to convict a guy who was found innocent at trial and exonerate a president before the investigation is even complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
The emperor... a legend in his own mind...
"It's interesting, in the run-up to this speech, a lot of reporters say that, well, Mr. President, these are all good ideas, but some of you've said before; some of them sound great, but you can't get those through Congress. Republicans won't agree with you,"
Reporters like Chris Matthews ?
He said Repubics agree with him too but are afraid to say so. What he should tell them is 'hurry up and pass them so you can find out what's in them' .
If you hadn't heard (and you should have because it is the official White House response now), Obama 4.0 called these scandals ex doesn't want to talk about "phony" in his big speech the other day.
One mother disagrees...
It's easy Ms. Smith, what's phony here is the administration, from the top down.Quote:
Mother of slain Benghazi victim Sean Smith: ‘My son is dead. How could that be phony?’
The mother of a Benghazi victim is furious about the new White House strategy of calling the terrorist attack and many other scandals plaguing the Obama administration “fake” or “phony.”
Patricia Smith, mother of Sean Smith, who was slain in the September 11, 2012 terrorist attack, lashed out on “Your World” on the Fox News Channel about that terminology.
President Obama has never revealed what, if anything, he was doing while workers at the Benghazi embassy were urgently requesting support, nor has the administration explained why no forces were sent to protect the embassy. The administration also denied the attack was a terrorist incident, claiming it was a spontaneous protest against an obscure YouTube trailer for a film that may or may not exist.
“I don’t believe him anymore,” Smith said. “He’s wrong. My son is dead. How could that be phony?”
According to Smith, she has been given no answers about what happened that night. She said the administration told her she “didn’t need to know.”
“When I was there at the ceremony of the welcoming of the caskets, both Obama and Hillary and Biden and all of the other ones, all promised me they would get back to me to tell me what happened,” Smith said. “I begged them. Please, I must know what happened with my son. How come this happened? They all promised me they would get back to me. You know, not one of them, not one of them ever got back to me in any way shape or form — not by a letter, not by anything other than I got a memo stating that I didn’t need to know because I was not part of the immediate family.”
Smith made one last plea to the Obama administration explaining her desire for answers.
“How can I tell you?” Smith added. “I mean, it is wrong. It is not phony. It is not fake. My son is dead, and why is he dead? All I am waiting for even to this day is just someone to get back to me and tell me what happened. Why did Hillary do as she did? Why was there no security there when there was supposed to be? Who was the general that called back the troops when they were going to help?”
Justice for Sean Smith!! Justice for Ambassador Chris Stevens!! Justice for Glen Doherty!! Justice for Tyrone S. Woods!! No justice No peace!!
Why weren't these scandals?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.
June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.
October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.
February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.
May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.
July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.
December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.
March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)
September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.
January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.
March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.
July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.
September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.
Did the adm try to blame the attack on a Youtube video ? Did the adm try to cover up the circumstances ? Did the administration make the survivors swear to secrecy ? Were those attacks sustained attacks over a 9 hr period where 3 of the dead could've been rescued ? Was an American ambassador targeted and killed ?
That would be a no, no, no, no and another no.
More Obama 4.0...
All righty then.Quote:
Uh Ho: Obama Says Vietnamese Dictator Inspired by Founding Fathers
“...we discussed the fact that Ho Chi Minh was actually inspired by the U.S. Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and the words of Thomas Jefferson.”
-- President Obama talking to reporters alongside Vietnamese President Truong Tan Sang.
Ok, as far as failures goes and something he has the power to do something about is the economy. What I find most confusing is how he talks the talk of raising the middle class but at the same time tightens the noose of government regulation and becomes anti industry to those that could grow our economy. Many middle class workers come from the coal fields yet he seeks to shut them down. It appears that when something is truly successful he wants to knock it down. But if its something he "believes" in then its all hands on deck. He keeps picking failures in his job creation scheme.
Will the economy bounce back. Yeah it will on its own through natural forces. The difference is he can either nurture those forces or choose to inhibit them. If he could just learn to talk to you rather then at you it would be a big help. We need to turn this country around but we can't so long as everything that works is demonic and everything that doesn't is manna from heaven.
That's what some historic narratives say .It's a bit more complex than that. Ho was a nationalist ;and that is the only similarity between him and the founders. He saw the US as an ally with a common enemy... Japan. The US supplied weapons to Ho's faction and Ho assumed that the quid pro quo would be that the US would back their nationalist movement (Viet Minh)after WWII . Ho moved quickly after the war to consolidate his control of the country . He forced the Emperor Bao Dai to abdicate and he declared the formation of the "Democratic Republic of Vietnam. Of course he cited the Declaration of Independence in his proclamation. But the government he was setting up was dominated by Communists. He then sought recognition by the Truman Adm.Quote:
More Obama 4.0...
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Uh Ho: Obama Says Vietnamese Dictator Inspired by Founding Fathers
“... we discussed the fact that Ho Chi Minh was actually inspired by the U.S. Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and the words of Thomas Jefferson.”
-- President Obama talking to reporters alongside Vietnamese President Truong Tan Sang.
All righty then.
Truman was faced with the option of either backing Ho and his communist dominated Republic ;or the French colonial claims. The Truman adm at the time was in the beginning phases of creating the 'containment policy' .So Truman backed the French claims.
Ho in the meantime felt betrayed . He could not turn to China for assistance as China was a traditional enemy of Vietnam. So he turned to Moscow instead.
So my take is that in some ways Ho did admire the founders struggle against the colonial Brits. However ,his ideas of liberty did not extend further than that. Communist Vietnam post war turned pretty much into the dystopia that Marxist states fall into.
Recently they have begun to achieve some economic prosperity. But human rights there are what you would expect in a communist state.
Re: Ho comments. If I recall even the source article acknowledges he may be technically correct, but what was he thinking linking Jefferson with a brutal regime? That may play well at Berkeley but I doubt the American public in general think that's the chic thing to say.
Re: the economy. "You didn't build that".
What the emperor was REALLY saying was that Ho had more respect for the founders and the government they set up than the emperor does.
Now it makes sense.
Obama 4.0, just like Obama 3.0, 2.0 and 1.0, is touting his most recent pivot to jobs in Chattanooga, TN today. The home town paper had a message before his arrival...
I love Chattanooga.Quote:
Take your jobs plan and shove it, Mr. President: Your policies have harmed Chattanooga enough
President Obama,
Welcome to Chattanooga, one of hundreds of cities throughout this great nation struggling to succeed in spite of your foolish policies that limit job creation, stifle economic growth and suffocate the entrepreneurial spirit.
Forgive us if you are not greeted with the same level of Southern hospitality that our area usually bestows on its distinguished guests. You see, we understand you are in town to share your umpteenth different job creation plan during your time in office. If it works as well as your other job creation programs, then thanks, but no thanks. We’d prefer you keep it to yourself.
That’s because your jobs creation plans so far have included a ridiculous government spending spree and punitive tax increase on job creators that were passed, as well as a minimum wage increase that, thankfully, was not. Economists — and regular folks with a basic understanding of math — understand that these are three of the most damaging policies imaginable when a country is mired in unemployment and starving for job growth.
Even though 64 percent of Chattanooga respondents said they would rather you hadn’t chosen to visit our fair city, according to a survey on the Times Free Press website, it’s probably good that you’re here. It will give you an opportunity to see the failure of your most comprehensive jobs plan to date, the disastrous stimulus scheme, up close and personal.
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 helped fund the Gig to Nowhere project, a $552 million socialist-style experiment in government-owned Internet, cable and phone services orchestrated by EPB — Chattanooga’s government-owned electric monopoly.
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The Gig to Nowhere is a Smart Grid, a high tech local electricity infrastructure intended to improve energy efficiency and reduce power outages. After lobbying for, and receiving, $111.6 million in stimulus money from your administration, EPB decided to build a souped-up version of the Smart Grid with fiber optics rather than more cost-effective wireless technology. This decision was supposed to allow EPB to provide the fastest Internet service in the Western Hemisphere, a gigabit-per-second Internet speed that would send tech companies and web entrepreneurs stampeding to Chattanooga in droves.
In reality, though, the gig, like most of the projects funded by your stimulus plan, has been an absolute bust.
While the Smart Grid will cost taxpayers and local electric customers well over a half-billion dollars when all is said and done, there has been little improvement in the quality of EPB’s electric service. Worse, despite being heavily subsidized, EPB’s government-owned Internet, cable and telephone outfit that competes head-to-head against private companies like AT&T and Comcast is barely staying afloat, often relying on loans from electric service reserve funds to afford its business expenses.
Further, there has been no credible evidence to suggest that EPB can even provide a gig of service consistently and reliably. Any companies hoping to utilize the Gig to Nowhere are quoted monthly billing costs that make the service unfeasible. As a result, Chattanooga has remained a relative ghost town for technological innovation. Almost no economic development whatsoever has resulted from the gig.
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What the gig has brought, however, is that shocking price tag. Because of your unwillingness to balance the budget, Mr. President, the $111.6 million federal handout to subsidize the Gig to Nowhere will actually cost federal taxpayers $158.2 million, due to interest. Once EPB received the stimulus infusion to fund the pork project, the electric monopoly took out a $219.8 bond that will balloon to $391.3 million by the time Chattanoogans are done paying it off.
The bond’s first payment comes due this fall and there remain significant questions about how EPB can manage to pay the debt without hiking electric rates on EPB customers.
Building a Smart Grid to get into a telecom sector already well-served by private companies was a bad idea from the start. But getting government involved in places it doesn’t belong is a hallmark of your administration. As a result, you and your policymakers were happy to fund the Gig to Nowhere.
You claimed that the Smart Grid would create jobs for Chattanooga. But in reality, all it did was push America deeper in debt and lure a local government agency into making a terrible financial decision that will weigh on Chattanoogans like a millstone for decades to come.
So excuse us, Mr. President, for our lack of enthusiasm for your new jobs program. Here in Chattanooga we’re still reeling from your old one.
Welcome, Mr. President: GOP ads, obstructionism are shameful | timesfreepress.com
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ust when we think Republicans can sink no lower, they surprise us with a deep dive.
They run a misleading ad on TV to welcome President Barack Obama to Chattanooga and Tennessee, and then claim the new jobs at VW and Amazon are here “in spite” of “liberal policies” and are here “thanks to Republican leadership.”
Hardly. But then honesty and accuracy have not been recent Republican virtues.
Tennessee Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen and Hamilton County Mayor Claude Ramsey, who is a Republican, were key in the successful recruitment of both Volkswagen and Amazon to Chattanooga.
And then there’s also the Gig City infrastructure, as well as Chattanooga’s smart and money-saving streetlights — all largely made possible by Obama’s stimulus package, the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act. Pretty much no Republicans voted for the stimulus, by the way.
Tennessee Democratic Party spokesman Brandon Puttbrese called the GOP effort to rain on Obama’s Chattanooga visit “phony.”
“The real record of [current GOP Gov.] Bill Haslam and the Republican majority is soaring unemployment, falling workers’ wages and multimillion-dollar state contracts for old business partners and well-connected cronies,” he said. “I doubt the millions of Tennesseans who work multiple jobs and still struggle to get by are impressed by this phony attempt to sell Republicans’ failed top-down agenda.”
The reality is simple and indisputable: Getting VW and Amazon here required officials of both parties — all parties — to work together.
A better future for Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama and the rest of the country still depends on that, but it’s not happening now. The GOP is in total shutdown mode except to engage in juvenile name-calling and obstructionism.
Now all we hear are pathetically bad reenactments of the worst cat-fight reality shows ever filmed as our politicians send fake postcards and make trumped-up and misleading ads to bash the nation’s leader no matter what the facts really show.
Here's the rest
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In the meantime, sequestration is robbing Tennessee:
• $25.5 million in funding has been lost for education — about 340 teachers and aide jobs.
• $2.2 million in environmental funding was lost and is not ensuring clean water and air quality.
• $1.2 million in grants were lost for fish and wildlife protection.
• $681,000 in funding was lost for job search assistance.
• $2.3 million in public health money is gone.
• $1.9 million was cut for Tennessee army base civilian work, forcing 7,000 civilian employees to take furloughs.
• $1 million was lost that once provided meals for seniors.
• Child care for 800 children was lost, and Head Start services for another 1,200 children is gone.
Georgia, Alabama and North Carolina have all faced similar cuts — as have states all across the country.
But the pain and cruelty apparently isn’t over if the GOP’s most rabid talkers have their way. Some Republican lawmakers are threatening a government shutdown unless “Obamacare” is defunded.
Fortunately at least one GOP senator from Tennessee has a better head on his shoulders: Republican Sen. Bob Corker said GOP senators are meeting with White House aides to “deal with our fiscal issues in more intelligent ways than now exist.”
The president is in Chattanooga today to tell us there is hope with compromise and real leadership: Chattanooga proves it, with new jobs and new initiatives that make us attractive to still more new employers.
President Obama is in Chattanooga today because we’re a city that can find ways to compromise and come out ahead.
Sen. Corker knows this. Let’s hope he can prevail on others in Congress to be leaders, not just actors in childish games.
There is no indication that I see on who wrote that column, it could have been anyone. Mine is signed, — The Free Press
Take your jobs plan and shove it, Mr. President: Your policies have harmed Chattanooga enough | timesfreepress.com
The sequester, is that still happening? I though we had so little to say about it, it had become a non-event
It is a non-event in spite of the scare monger in chief's bleating.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Well someone doesn't think so, it must be hurting someone
If it was then there would be daily reports by the compliant press. As it is ,the biggest impact has been the White House closed to school tours. Of course that doesn't stop the emperor from hosting celebrity events . He's preparing for his post-Presidency by training to become the next Ryan Seacrest .
Apparently not.Quote:
the biggest impact has been the White House closed to school tours.
Even conservative republicans can see that no WH tours are the least of their problems. But they still get shouted down by the Squeal and Repeal crowd, who aren't listening to their own neighbors.
We will see who votes to shut down the government when they go home amid the growing number of workers demanding raises. Call them names like you have been doing but those lazy greedy poor people will vote against anyone who ain't working for them.
Go ahead shut the government down and defund Obama Care. I dare you.
And when we all become Detroit, what then?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
You have already said the country was broke and there ain't no money. Europe said it, Asia said it, and China is saying it. See if Clete has a spare room for you.
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