Apparently Krudd is so well know he is now referred to as the Canadian Prime Minister
BBC World News refers to Kevin Rudd as Canadian Prime Minister | News.com.au
All I can say is Canada you are welcome to him. How soon can your take delivery?
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Apparently Krudd is so well know he is now referred to as the Canadian Prime Minister
BBC World News refers to Kevin Rudd as Canadian Prime Minister | News.com.au
All I can say is Canada you are welcome to him. How soon can your take delivery?
You would be lucky if you could arrange an even KRudd for Stephen Harper exchange. Then again we would be lucky for a Harper -emperor swap.
I think sometime in the next two months I might get lucky
As long as the Krudd stays north of us.
Not much chance of that if he gets the chance he will be over there whispering in BO's ear. Perhaps it is good that last time they didn't seem to get on, maybe BO picked him for what he is, someone even more up himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I'm not sure anyone can get more up himself than Zero.
You haven't met Krudd he has the reputation of being Nero among his associates. A third of the cabinet resigned when he was reinstated. He thinks he is going to singlehandedly win the election. He is a micromanager and never misses a photoopQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The emperor does resemble Nero and is good for the photo op moments .But the comparison ends there . The emperor delegates everything and is hands off, even during a crisis like Benghazi.
No Krudd manages everything, he has made two international trips in the first two weeks, reorganised the party, ditched a tax, solved the asylum seeker crisis, reorganised international aid, directed the NSW branch of the party restructuring, appointed several ministers and reorganised the cabinet, turned the political fortunes of the party around... ssssh... the messiah cometh and it's the second coming... ssssh
Make that three international trips in three weeks Krudd turned up in Afghanistan cementing his popularity among the troops and of course the photoop, you would think he was on holiday he had the missus with him
What are the chances of early elections ? The sooner Abbot becomes PM the better .
Krudd is keeping everyone guessing, not before September probably, he's having too much fun and he is trying to put some runs on the board
The only way KRudd has any chance is by coopting opposition policies.
No he has moved to the far right, wrong footing the opposition
So he is perpetrating a complete fraud... and the Aussie electorate ;do they not see that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I'm sure they do, but of course the poll as ever decieve us into thinking someone will support him
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's youngest son Marcus joins Labor's digital campaign team | News.com.au
As I said the Krudd is spreading, he is setting the scene for dynasty and now he has brought in some american heavy hitters to practice their whiles here. I'm going to turn my mobile off once the campaign starts and make sure all their missives are caught by my spam filter
The din has settled
What happened? Did a dome fall over Canberra? Suddenly we have a morning where the news is not full of Krudd, the news is not full of asylum seekers and sinking boats, the news is not full of new taxes and opposition initiatives. I know it is poets day but when did the poli's and the media learn this. This isn't Melbourne Cup Day What happened? I want to know because I like it and I would like to see more Krudd free days
Now I know!
Brer rabbit he lay low.
Budget deficit blows out to $30b
Yes indeed they laid low before the tidings of comfort and joy, tidings of comfort and joy, it's the banana republic all over again, we are an economy in transition, transition to where I wonder, Only labor could turn a well performing economy into a disaster, only Krudd could make things worse while telling us he is cutting expenditure
And there you have it... the progressive liberal addiction to spending other people's money and placing IOUs on their future.
No This time it is revenue that has declined, curbing the election war chest
Krudd has become the ten dollar man asking voters to support him by sending ten dollars. How absoluntely pathetic. Whining that voters had seen his best and his worst he capped his election announcement by asking for a handout like any cadger in the street. Well we have seen his worst and some of it in the last week so come September 7 Kevin07 will not be Kevin on September 7
Day 1 subsidies to the car industry
Day 2 after hours school care
Polls show lower support for Labor
I await the next spending promise meanwhile even the international media wants to get in on the act, although what they can contribute is mote or is that mute
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/05/wo...html?hpt=hp_c1
Border and tax and spend... seems there is less difference in our issues than you imagine.
No I don't imagine there are differences excepting in our approach. The whole civilised world has similar problems today, displaced people seeking something, climate change and the stupidity of the solutions and internal problems requiring a solution. On top of this we have the stupidity of the war on terror, a war than can never be won by military means
We have here a nation that from the outside looks like utopia, employment, health care, money, clean streets and yes it is a shinking light in a world of mediocracy but only for a small group of people, too many people and it all sinks into the third world
A very stupid american initiated the war on terror and as a result he destabilised a part of the world that was crap anyway, but we here are facing the consequences of rhe refugee problem and we can only accommodate a few, the rest are your problem and you do nothing where is your call to give you the masses now, MUTE !
You see how wrong you are?! The so called war on terrorism is a war against jihadistan and initiated by them.. This is a war that began long before there was a United States ,and no... unfortunately a military solution may be the ONLY one.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
How big of a military would that take, and how long would it take to wipe out those jihadist?
Got me Tal.. in 1939 we never anticipated that we would need a massive military build up to counter an existential threat.
A military solution is not the solution Tom and you know it. How do you find a jihadist, only when he strikes, this recent fiasco where you are closing your embassies at a threat, the terrorists succeeded without a shot, without a bomb, demonstrates that a military solution isn't the answer. The solution lies in lifting the poverty and the disadvantage, in spending that money you waste on your over blown military budget in making a real difference in these centres of jihadism. Pakistan, Egypt. Your military didn't prevent 9/11 in fact it may have been part of the reason. You see you have the same thinking as Bush and he was wrong, the war hasn't been won, what was centred in Afghanistan is now all over the world
And Tom don't think that your support of Israel isn't a big part in this also
more liberal . Clichés . The jihadists on 9-11-01 were college educated . The Boston Marathon bombers were not poor or disadvantaged... neither was Major Hassan . The problem is the political ideology spawned by the life and acts of the "Prophet " .Quote:
the solution lies in lifting the poverty and the disadvantage
Yes Tom I agree that it ideology, ideology that thrives in disadvantage and poverty. If you see what happens when islamic peoples get into a better society you see the Militantism disappears and moderation takes over. It is not liberal ideology that tells you this it is observation and real life experience. What do you think the people of Pakistan want? I can assure you it isn't war. Do you think the people of Iran want war? The last one they fought devistated a generation.
Yes the jihadists can be educated people but people who are still from marginalised societies. Do you think Egypt a modern state or Pakistan or Libya. Do you think the muslims in Dergestan who fight the Russians live in a modern state? All you have proven is there are hot beds of discontent even among educated people. The prophet lived fourteen hundred years ago but one greater than him gave us the answers two thousand years ago and still we will not heed them. He didn't use weapons and the might of the state, he demonstrated a better way but you think armies will achieve your goals, so did your founding fathers, or did they?
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when islamic peoples get into a better society you see the Militantism disappears and moderation takes over
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What do you think the people of Pakistan want? I can assure you it isn't war. Do you think the people of Iran want war? The last one they fought devistated a generation
Having been to Iran I can attest that the people do not want war. Little say do they have in the matter ,and that is the point. There is indoctrination that goes on in any radical totalitarian ideology .
Nice try ;but as you well know ,Jesus taught us how to achieve personal salvation. He did not given answers to how a nation state should protect it's people from an existential threat... unless you think we should all be martyrs . As for the founders ,they made it clear that the nation has a right and obligation to defend itself .Quote:
The prophet lived fourteen hundred years ago but one greater than him gave us the answers two thousand years ago and still we will not heed them. He didn't use weapons and the might of the state, he demonstrated a better way but you think armies will achieve your goals, so did your founding fathers, or did they?
I think he gave us ample example, he lived under an oppressive regime yet he didn't start a revolt. He was a popular figure in his society and could easily have rallied the mob but he didn't. He could have used the scriptures to justify such a position but he didn't and that contrasts with the Muslim approach. Martyrs, no, but aggressors, no. Lawlessness needs to be dealt with but you avoid the issue regarding what gives rise too much of this lawlessness. States are aggressive, particularly in gaining the benefit of resources without passing the benefits to the population. We have great economic oppression today and it gets worse as multinationals pursue profit and nowhere is this more obvious than in the 10-40 window where the Muslim peoples liveQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
We battle ourselves more than we battle others as no army has invaded us. Yet we send our armies to defend the business interest of our multi nations corporation for their profit, at our expense, and justify it with the BS of helping them. Sure a garment factory in India is welcome income, or a sweat shop in Asia, where they have nothing, sold cheap to working poor here, and across the world, but investors make billion in profits off poor people, and cheap labor.Quote:
As for the founders ,they made it clear that the nation has a right and obligation to defend itself .
So let's call it what it is, profits before people and the few marking value for the many. So forget trying to attach nobility to economic hoarding. You have replaced bluebloods for green ones, and taken it to a higher level, but its still the same old world BS!
Yes a sweat shop deathtrap in Bangladesh profits who? The slave labour or the multinationals who reap the profit for their first world stockholders, we know who the real exploiters are, the 1% who hoard their money and don't give back what they take. This whole rotten system is going to fall over and whan it does there will be a shout of freedom. We are bigger people than this but people like Tom want the profits for their pension funds so they can live high on the hog while doing nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Armies don't have to be clothed in uniform . Invasion forces don't have to be either numerous or in an open set battle formation.Quote:
as no army has invaded us.
The rest of your rant is the same old tied tirade against our economic system.
'We have overthrown capitalism... "We have seized power. We have built up a mighty socialist industry. We have transferred the middle peasants on to the path of socialism. We have already accomplished what is most important from the point of view of construction.
"Not much is left to do; to gain technique, to master science. And when this is achieved, our pace shall become such as we dare not even dream of at present."
(Stalin February 1931 speech to the First All-Union Conference of Leading Personnel of Socialist Industry. )
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Tom there was no real industry in Russia during this time. It was still largely a peasant dependent society. The speech is a reflection of historicism that existed within that particular period.
Yes Marxism is loaded with historicism. You also correctly note that Communism takes root in agrarian societies and not developed industrial ones .
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Originally Posted by tomder55
So you are safe.
Touché.Quote:
So you are safe.
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