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Fox News Eric Bolling said,

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.. that the reason 4 out of 10 women are the primary provider for their families is “the breakdown of the American family.” He continued, saying, “Women are forced to go out and be the breadwinners for the families and that is why the numbers are higher now — single moms.”

But it was the question Bolling asked next that really made a leap to new territory. “If you are a single mom, breadwinner of the family, and you get pregnant, aren't we pushing towards more abortions? It seems like we are."

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Right winger, Eric Erickson said,

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I'm so used to liberals telling conservatives that they're anti-science. But liberals who defend this and say it is not a bad thing are very anti-science. When you look at biology — when you look at the natural world — the roles of a male and a female in society and in other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it's not antithesis, or it's not competing, it's a complementary role.

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Right winger, Megan Kelly confronts uber right winger, Lou Dobbs,

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over his comments attributing women's role in the workplace to marriages "shattering" in society.

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Right wing governor Phil Bryant, Mississippi, said

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America's educational troubles began when women began working outside the home in large numbers.

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Right wing retiring senator, Saxby Chandliss said,

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that the “hormone level created by nature” was to blame for rapes in the military and that all pregnant servicewomen should be investigated to make sure their condition was the result of consensual sex.

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But, there's no war on women...

Excon

Of course there isn't it is all in your mind, or their's, it's like the glass ceiling, if they can't get the top job someone is biased, no it's just they don't have the ability

Still waiting for Planned Parenthood and Naral to support standards for abortion clinics. Meanwhile:

Man Takes 12-Year-Old to Planned Parenthood for Abortion to Hide Rape

Those were outstanding comments made in testimony too ! Wish I could've watched the hearings yesterday .

For the first time since 1950 there will be no swimsuit competition at the Miss World pageant thanks to the religion of perpetual outrage. Instead they'll wear beach sarongs, whatever that is.

Miss World pageant buckles to pressure from Muslim hardliners in Indonesia, nixes bikini competition - CBS News

All you "war on women" and "turn back the clock" folks have the wrong people in your sights, but I don't expect you to criticize the religion of perpetual outrage any time soon, you're afraid the next fatwa will be directed at you.

They should just abolish the pageants outright in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

They should just abolish the pageants outright in my opinion.

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Some time you have to be inclusive, abolution of swin suit contestes does nothing now abolution of the hijab...

Whoa, which religion of outrage are we talking about? They all seem outraged about something? They all want to control their masses. Especially the female masses.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Whoa, which religion of outrage are we talking about? They all seem outraged about something? They all want to control their masses. Especially the female masses.

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Um Tal, besides being a no-brainer, it was specified.

Miss World pageant buckles to pressure from Muslim hardliners in Indonesia, nixes bikini competition - CBS News

And Baptists don't issue fatwas.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Whoa, which religion of outrage are we talking about? They all seem outraged about something? They all want to control their masses. Especially the female masses.

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Have you thought why?

It seems to me the female masses, as you put it, have no respect for the male, they don't recognise we are different ot them, differently motivated or alternatively they seek to dominate us from the cradle to the grave. I have heard the female screem domination but do they understand domnation? Where no decision goes un-challenged, no expenditure is allowed?

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It seems to me the female masses, as you put it, have no respect for the male, they don't recognise we are different ot them, differently motivated or alternatively they seek to dominate us from the cradle to the grave. I have heard the female screem domination but do they understand domnation? Where no decision goes un-challenged, no expenditure is allowed?

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Who are these women you surround yourself with? Or maybe the problem is you, not them?

The Obama admin has dropped it's (half-hearted I'm sure) effort to block OTC sales of the morning after pill to women and girls of any age. Said the protectors of women:

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“We will not rest in this fight until the morning-after pill is made available without delay and obstruction,” said Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, a lawyer and the executive director of the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, which represented the plaintiffs in the case.

Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood said: “This is a huge breakthrough for access to birth control and a historic moment for women's health and equity.”

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Personally, I think this is a historic moment for undermining parental authority but I get it, you lefties don't believe our children belong to us anyway. However, the first time some predator gets caught buying these things to cover for sexual abuse of those children I hope you all have an epiphany on who it is waging a war on women while you share in the shame for allowing this.

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/us...er=rss&emc=rss

Hello again, Steve:

Let's talk about that. Do you believe a 15 year old boy who impregnates his 15 year old girlfriend is a predator in need of jail time?

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Let's talk about that. Do you believe a 15 year old boy who impregnates his 15 year old girlfriend is a predator in need of jail time?

excon

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Or does he believe a female that cannot talk to their parents about sex for whatever reason shouldn't be protected from their own mistakes?

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Let's talk about that. Do you believe a 15 year old boy who impregnates his 15 year old girlfriend is a predator in need of jail time?

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What on earth makes you think I would believe that? What I believe is that we should not give more tools to embolden that 21-year-old, or that uncle, or that predator stalking that 15 year old in the mall. What I believe is a minor child should still be under the authority of their parents who love them and protect them, and that pathetic groups that cannot recognize the life of a child taken by a butcher, or think that uncle should take them across the state line for an abortion if the parents won't consent have no damn business interfering in how we raise our children.

You, not so much. It's more and more clear that you don't think conservatives and parents have any rights at all.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Or does he believe a female that cannot talk to their parents about sex for whatever reason shouldn't be protected from their own mistakes?

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Oh boo hoo, that's a tired old excuse. You're darn right I believe the parents of a minor child have the right to decide if their child can have an abortion or contraceptives. I find it quite pathetic that you don't.

Hello again, Steve:

I've heard this stuff before, but I want to make sure I understand your position... You believe that you should DENY underage pregnant females the RIGHT to buy Plan B, because an abuser would use it to cover up his crime.. And, you believe there are ENOUGH predators out there to justify your position...

I think you've been reading TOOO many detective magazines..

excon

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Or does he believe a female that cannot talk to their parents about sex for whatever reason shouldn't be protected from their own mistakes?

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Bye bye Roe v Wade. Since you think that children should be allowed to have access to birth control at will because it is their decision then shouldn't the minimum age of consent also be lifted? After all your messing with a woman (cough) girls decision about her body.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

I've heard this stuff before, but I wanna make sure I understand your position... You believe that you should DENY underage pregnant females the RIGHT to buy Plan B, because an abuser would use it to cover up his crime.. And, you believe there are ENOUGH predators out there to justify your position...

I think you've been reading TOOO many detective magazines..

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Maybe a little research would have helped here.

Ref:

747,408. That's how many registered sex offenders there are in the United States. And according to new information from National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, that number has increased dramatically since 2006. Here are the details.

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56,000: Cases of child sexual abuse were reported and substantiated in 2007, according to the national sex offender website. Approximately 30 percent of child sexual abuse cases are reported to authorities.



33 percent: Sexual assaults occur when the victim is between the ages of 12 and 17, the national website reports. Teens ages 16 to 19 years old are 3 1/2 times more likely than the general population to be the victims of rape, attempted rape or sexual assault.



18 percent: Women report being raped at some point in their lifetime, and 3 percent of men, according to a National Violence Against Women Survey conducted in 2006. 54 percent of female victims and 71 percent of male victims were first raped before their 18th birthday.



Source:

Number of Registered Sex Offenders Increasing


I think that is plenty that may be out there needing the protection of at least a Doctor to determine what is actually going on.

I didn't say children, I said females. And yes sexually active ones should have the means to protect themselves. And YES 14 year olds are engaging in sex. Yes they should be protected from their mistakes.

Be great if they were abstinent but that's not happening is it, after centuries of preaching and laws against it. That's just reality for me, since the alternative is unwanted pregnancy and abortions, and I don't like those alternatives.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

I've heard this stuff before, but I wanna make sure I understand your position... You believe that you should DENY underage pregnant females the RIGHT to buy Plan B, because an abuser would use it to cover up his crime.. And, you believe there are ENOUGH predators out there to justify your position...

I think you've been reading TOOO many detective magazines..

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I think you've been reading too many left-wing blogs.

Sex trafficking in the USA hits close to home

See I know personally a couple that works to rescue these women and girls in New Orleans. I know their M.O. I know how they get their victims and I know it's a HUGE problem in this country.

Aside from the traffickers, if you don't believe there are enough perverts out there to warrant concern you're deluded. Ask the folks in Cleveland, or the family in Iowa, or West Philly.

In my opinion ONE is too many, and given the skill with which the government has handled health care so far, the IRS, our privacy, Benghazi, etc. you can bet they're going to do a bang-up job being parents, too. Me, I'd rather let parents do the job.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

I didn't say children, I said females. And yes sexually active ones should have the means to protect themselves. And YES 14 year olds are engaging in sex. Yes they should be protected from their mistakes.

Be great if they were abstinent but that's not happening is it, after centuries of preaching and laws against it. That's just reality for me, since the alternative is unwanted pregnancy and abortions, and I don't like those alternatives.

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Here is where I have the problem. You seem to be advocating for the child to make the decisions over and above any safegaurds. In Roe v Wade the only way it passed and was made legal was that a doctor had to be present. It was the doctors decision. Not just that of the patient. In allowing the child to make the decision you are subverting the decisions made under Roe v Wade. Without parental consent nor that of a doctor you stand the chance of hurting the very person you advocate to protect. Lets say for example you have an "active" teen and they think they are pregnant. You know like the many questions we get here on AMHD and most of those are from adults. They can self medicate by going from place to place. No safegaurds. Nothing to protect them from themselves. That to me is a travisty.

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Originally Posted by cdad

Here is where I have the problem. You seem to be advocating for the child to make the decisions over and above any safegaurds. In Roe v Wade the only way it passed and was made legal was that a doctor had to be present. It was the doctors decision. Not just that of the patient. In allowing the child to make the decision you are subverting the decisions made under Roe v Wade. Without parental consent nor that of a doctor you stand the chance of hurting the very person you advocate to protect. Lets say for example you have an "active" teen and they think they are pregnant. You know like the many questions we get here on AMHD and most of those are from adults. They can self medicate by going from place to place. No safegaurds. Nothing to protect them from them selves. That to me is a travisty.

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The safeguards Cdad are with the government ensuring a safe product for sale to the public and I too share the safety concerns. Also being doctors follow the law and not just be one of many doctors a patient seeks out unknown to the other doctor. The loophole some people can exploit is they are not connected to a central data base that pharmacist can use to see who is abusing that loophole in the law.

Self medicators are very smart.

Why should little girls need emergency contraception, Tal? Why should a six-year-old girl have access to emergency contraception? Do you really not see a problem here one way or another?

6 year old girls? Where did you get that from? Not me.

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6 year old girls? where did you get that from? Not me.

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The judge's order was to make it available without age restriction. To their credit the administration tried for limiting it to 17 and older, the FDA offered 15 and older but the judge said no dice, no restrictions, and Obama caved.

So tell me, why do little girls need access to emergency contraception? Why would a six year old need access to emergency contraception, Tal?

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Why would a six year old need access to emergency contraception

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Six year old can't get pregnant - basic biology. Not sure why you're setting up that red herring.

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Six year old can't get pregnant - basic biology. Not sure why you're setting up that red herring.

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OK, make it 10, or 12, or...

List of youngest birth mothers

1 Age 5
2 Age 6
3 Age 8
4 Age 9
5 Age 10

Apparently they can.

Maybe the judge was thinking of 13, and 14 year olds that are sexually active, but are you really worried about 6 year olds? Okay just read your links and agree with the judge. That's really creepy about those young mothers. OUTRAGEOUS is a good word for what happened to them.

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Maybe the judge was thinking of 13, and 14 year olds that are sexually active, but are you really worried about 6 year olds?

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I think any girl pregnant under the legal age of consent needs to have some sort of protection in place. Its obvious by the behavior that there isn't a safegaurd for the child already. Also I understand how they bend the rules in many states but how many do we as a nation want to put at risk?

There is a reason they don't let children make decisions in a court room and reasons for an adult to be held accountable for that child.

It's a world problem from the links, and an old one. Damn scary too.

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Maybe the judge was thinking of 13, and 14 year olds that are sexually active, but are you really worried about 6 year olds? Okay just read your links and agree with the judge. That's really creepy about those young mothers. OUTRAGEOUS is a good word for what happened to them.

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I don't care what the judge was thinking, a 13-year-old girl should not be able to buy emergency contraception and parent should still have rights.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I don't care what the judge was thinking, a 13-year-old girl should not be able to buy emergency contraception and parent should still have rights.

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If she is having unprotected sex, what do you suggest she do if she thinks rationally the next morning about possible pregnancy?

Responsible parents do have rights. Obviously you assume all13 year old have responsible parents, many do not. Too many.

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If she is having unprotected sex, what do you suggest she do if she thinks rationally the next morning about possible pregnancy?

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Talk to her parents.

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Responsible parents do have rights. Obviously you assume all13 year old have responsible parents, many do not. Too many.

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That was predictable. Many a 13-year-old is also quite manipulative, they're not stupid. I guess you've never heard of a kid going to PP, or an uncle, or an aunt or someone else and put on the "I can't talk to my parents" show. Parents deserve the benefit of the doubt, they should not be bypassed when it comes to their children.

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Talk to her parents.

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The parents are the last to know what their daughter is doing -- and too often don't care.

Weeding out the good from the bad parents, and the bad kids from the good ones is also a big problem.

Julia Gillard's war on men has back fired an turned into a war on women

PM targets 'men in blue ties'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-1...d-onli/4748826

A would be politician targets Gillards feminie characteristic at a political fun raiser and all sorts of politicians are ducking for cover it seems when you paly the gender card things turn nasty

Haa haa haa, the quail with the littlered box was joke, what a cover up and to think this dill wants to be leader, give me a break, how to sink you chances?

I think this is a put up job, too fortuitous, just when Julia had embarrassed herself by playing the gender card, now she is the victim. Dirty tricks start early in this campaign


All I can say is down, down, the price of quail is down, down