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  • May 31, 2013, 05:51 AM
    paraclete
    The war on men
    Could it be true is there a war on men a conscious usurping of the place and role of men



    “The Whole World in Her Hands”: A Gyno-Maniacal War on Men? – UPDATED
  • May 31, 2013, 07:34 AM
    smkanand
    Now it is came to this! Men are feeling insecure because women are independent. Another new age propaganda of men to put a leash on women.
  • May 31, 2013, 07:55 AM
    tomder55
    If men are feeling insecure over this then perhaps they need to man up . But yeah this is Western culture's wussification of men . It starts in school where boys are no longer allowed to play contact sports and otherwise be boys. When they play sports or anything else competitive there are no winners or losers . It also happens at home where there are so many single parent families that boys are often denied positive male role models .
  • May 31, 2013, 08:23 AM
    talaniman
    Deal with it! Can you blame females for being tired of men telling them what to do?
  • May 31, 2013, 09:49 AM
    Wondergirl
    In today's paper --

    "[There is a] shift in American society. An Associated Press-WE TV poll of people under 50 found that more than 2 in 5 unmarried women without children — or 42 percent — would consider having a child on their own without a partner, including more than a third, or 37 percent, who would consider adopting solo."

    And these are career women with money in savings accounts.

    Poll: 2 in 5 women would consider parenting solo - Chicago Sun-Times
  • May 31, 2013, 09:49 AM
    tomder55
    Tell you what I can't deal with anymore ,the inept , bumbling dad image that is ever present in mass media . You know ;the ones that get schooled by their children,the immature arrested development types who cannot walk and chew gum and needs constant direction from wife and children to survive. This type of sexist stereotype is perfectly acceptable today.
    T-Mobile Smart Guys MyFaves Commercial - YouTube
    New Huggies Commercial - Dad Campaign - YouTube
    (Huggies pulled the most offensive ads that insult fathers and introduced this 'not all dads are imbiciles ' ad... geee much better !
    Lowe's - Dumb Dad Ad - YouTube
    Stupid dad - YouTube
    In the mind of popular culture ,dads are a cross between Homer Simpson and'Everbody loves Raymond '... an incompetent man-child.
  • May 31, 2013, 10:06 AM
    joypulv
    Look around the world at the women who are still mutilated as girls, denied education, considered useless damaged goods if raped, married off without their consent, maimed or killed for glancing at men not their husbands, and kept behind veils and in back rooms. Even the 'modern' countries kept women from owning property, inheriting, voting, and so on.

    Men are going to have to deal with some pent up frustration. If they allow themselves to be wussified it's their own fault. I am a woman and when I see a wussy commercial, I don't look or I change the channel. For decades it was a 'rule' of advertising that the man be in a dominant position in an ad with a woman, either leaning over her while she sat, or standing while she sat. The worst ones were ads for cigarettes, until 'You've come a long way baby' became a huge hit.
    Then there were all the ads where the man lectured or advised a woman about household products... all just as bad as the ones now, if not worse for me anyway, because I saw them growing up.

    I read the first part of the article and don't agree with most of it.
  • May 31, 2013, 10:21 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joypulv View Post
    Look around the world at the women who are still mutilated as girls, denied education, considered useless damaged goods if raped, married off without their consent, maimed or killed for glancing at men not their husbands, and kept behind veils and in back rooms. Even the 'modern' countries kept women from owning property, inheriting, voting, and so on.

    Now, tell me your best guess why this is (or was).
  • May 31, 2013, 10:26 AM
    joypulv
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Now, tell me your best guess why this is (or was).

    Because starting a few thousand years ago men saw daughters as bargaining chips, to be bought, sold, and traded, for land, animals, and protective alliances.
  • May 31, 2013, 10:28 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joypulv View Post
    Because starting a few thousand years ago men saw daughters as bargaining chips, to be bought, sold, and traded, for land, animals, and protective alliances.

    I agree and think that men see women as a mystery (bodies that can produce a baby, the menstrual cycle), a mystery that needs to be subdued and controlled.
  • May 31, 2013, 10:33 AM
    joypulv
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I agree and think that men see women as a mystery (bodies that can produce a baby, the menstrual cycle), a mystery that needs to be subdued and controlled.

    That too!
  • May 31, 2013, 10:40 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    I agree and think that men see women as a mystery (bodies that can produce a baby, the menstrual cycle), a mystery that needs to be subdued and controlled.
    Not this guy!
  • May 31, 2013, 10:45 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Not this guy!

    You've unraveled the mystery and yet don't feel threatened?? And you don't want to dominate and fence us in?
  • May 31, 2013, 11:00 AM
    tomder55
    They start emasculating them when they are young...

    Quote:

    In the latest incident of anti-gun hysteria to erupt in a school setting, a kindergarten boy has been suspended from school for 10 days because he showed a friend his cowboy-style cap gun on the way to school.

    The incident happened on Wednesday morning at about 8:30 a.m. on a school bus in Calvert County, Maryland, reports The Washington Post.

    The kindergartener had brought the toy gun because his friend had brought a water gun the previous day. He later told his mother than he “really, really” wanted his friend to see it.

    The suspended boy had acquired the menacing, plastic, orange-tipped weapon at Frontier Town, a western-themed campground with a water park, mini golf and the like.

    School officials at Dowell Elementary School in the town of Lusby proceeded to question the five-year-old for over two hours before finally calling his mother, whom The Post also does not name.

    The principal eventually called the boy's mother at 10:50 a.m. By that time, the five-year-old had wet his pants (which the mother called highly unusual).

    The principal told the boy's mother that the boy had simulated shooting someone on the bus with the offending novelty. However, both the boy and his older sister, a first-grader, say the principal is not telling the truth.

    The Post explains that the principal — Jennifer L. Young, according to Dowell Elementary's website — told the kindergartener's mother that things would have been even worse had the toy gun been loaded with caps. In that case, the school would have regarded the plaything as an explosive and called the police.

    “I have no problem that he had a consequence to his behavior,” the mother told the Post. “What I have a problem with is the severity.”

    The mother is also upset about the trauma her son experienced without her knowledge.

    “Why were we not immediately contacted?” she asked

    The 10-day suspension is officially for possessing a look-alike gun, notes the Post. If the suspension is not lifted, the kindergartener won't be able to go to school the rest of the year. The suspension will also be part of his permanent academic record.

    Kindergartener interrogated over cap gun until he pees his pants, then suspended 10 days
  • May 31, 2013, 11:04 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    they start emasculating them when they are young ...

    And the school officials were male? I see the principal was female, but what was this boy's point in bringing a gun to school. Domination? Subduing?
  • May 31, 2013, 11:10 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You've unraveled the mystery and yet don't feel threatened????? And you don't want to dominate and fence us in?

    "Yes Dear"!! It's not that hard! Its only hard when a wussy male has his ego wrapped up in dominating a status symbol female to meet his needs as a male to convince himself and everyone else he is an exceptional male and not a wuss.

    You know the ones Arnold refers to as girlie men. All men cannot be dominant alpha males.

    The big secret is many men are threatened by independent dominant females. But the wussification of men by a female(S)is a stretch.
  • May 31, 2013, 11:17 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    You've unraveled the mystery and yet don't feel threatened??
    My daughter started her period last weekend :) Oddly enough we still hang around and I feel much less like giving her the beatings that I use to give her... y'know, jus' 'cause she's a girl.
  • May 31, 2013, 11:18 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    The big secret is many men are threatened by independent dominant females.
    Probably the same ones that buy Hummers. :D
  • May 31, 2013, 11:29 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    And the school officials were male? I see the principal was female, but what was this boy's point in bringing a gun to school. Domination? Subduing?


    I pray that you are not endorsing the behavior of the school officials.
  • May 31, 2013, 12:04 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    I pray that you are not endorsing the behavior of the school officials.

    Absolutely not!

    One Sunday, my minister's-wife Mom took my little brother's winter jacket off after we had sat down in church and was horrified to discover he had strapped on his gun belt with two holsters that held his six guns. We still chuckle about that.
  • May 31, 2013, 01:44 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    And the school officials were male? I see the principal was female, but what was this boy's point in bringing a gun to school. Domination? Subduing?

    Don't think a kindergartener thinks that way.
    The kindergartener had brought the toy gun because his friend had brought a water gun the previous day. He later told his mother than he “really, really” wanted his friend to see it.


    Obviously a cap gun is an explosive device . Obviously the kid needs to be sent to Gitmo for some water boarding... on second thought... maybe the school officials who grilled him until he peed in his pants should be subject to some waterboarding until they pees in their pants.
  • May 31, 2013, 02:02 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    don't think a kindergartener thinks that way.

    Did you see my post just before yours? "One Sunday, my minister's-wife Mom took my little brother's winter jacket off after we had sat down in church and was horrified to discover he had strapped on his gun belt with two holsters that held his six guns. We still chuckle about that."

    We decided not to waterboard him. I don't think he even got spanked.
  • May 31, 2013, 02:07 PM
    tomder55
    Sounds like something I would've done.
  • May 31, 2013, 03:16 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Did you see my post just before yours? "One Sunday, my minister's-wife Mom took my little brother's winter jacket off after we had sat down in church and was horrified to discover he had strapped on his gun belt with two holsters that held his six guns. We still chuckle about that."

    We decided not to waterboard him. I don't think he even got spanked.

    Kids play and just maybe he feels insecure in that female dominated society
  • May 31, 2013, 03:42 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Kids play and just maybe he feels insecure in that female dominated society

    This was back in 1952 -- very male dominated society..
  • May 31, 2013, 04:04 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    This was back in 1952 -- very male dominated society..

    Comment still applies perhaps even more so. Male domination is an illusion perpetrated by females. It suited females to be seem in the subserviant role, the power behind the throne has always been their act
  • Jun 1, 2013, 02:30 AM
    tomder55
    Maybe he should've been carrying a pop tart in the shape of a gun. That would've gotten him only a 7 days suspension.
  • Jun 1, 2013, 02:42 AM
    paraclete
    Maybe there needs to be some reality in the system, you would castigate and punish a child for a cap gun but allow millions of weapons to be freely possessed, where was that child's right to bear arms?
  • Jun 1, 2013, 05:55 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Maybe he should've been carrying a pop tart in the shape of a gun. That would've gotten him only a 7 days suspension.

    My brother (and you too!) could take bites out of a piece of deli meat and make it look like a gun. He could even hold his right hand with fingers and thumb pulled into his palm and his index finger pointing out to "shoot" us. Take his guns away and he has other avenues.
  • Jun 1, 2013, 06:06 AM
    speechlesstx
    It's Time to Stop Treating Dads Like Idiots says, Huffpo.
  • Jun 1, 2013, 03:47 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post

    I agree
  • Jun 11, 2013, 02:52 PM
    paraclete
    More evidence that the war is growing

    PM targets 'men in blue ties'

    It has become fashionable to wage a war on men for political reasons particularly when the electorate is going to wipe you out
  • Jun 11, 2013, 03:40 PM
    NeedKarma
    Maybe in crazy oz-land.
  • Jun 11, 2013, 03:50 PM
    paraclete
    No just that crazy red headed bltch we have masquarading as a leader
  • Jun 16, 2013, 03:35 PM
    paraclete
    The war has backfired on the big red box, I smell blood in the water

    Male support for PM crashes
  • Jun 16, 2013, 11:14 PM
    Mom4life
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    If men are feeling insecure over this then perhaps they need to man up . But yeah this is Western culture's wussification of men . It starts in school where boys are no longer allowed to play contact sports and otherwise be boys. When they play sports or anything else competitive there are no winners or losers . It also happens at home where there are so many single parent familes that boys are often denied positive male role models .

    The men of yesterday stayed with their families. They had defined roles, boys and dads,daughters and mothers. That's why things were different. Today guys get women pregnant then walk away and act like they have no clue they have a child out there. Women had to evolve into mother and father "super-beings" and while most succeed in raising excellent kids some fall short. We live in a nation of single mothers. Women get pregnant and today still have only one choice, most won't make that choice, so we become mothers, unintentional, in some cases but mothers nonetheless. We don't get to walk away from being pregnant, especially when we can't even tie our shoes. If men could in some way experience the biology of pregnancy I think most would never abandon the child, regardless of how they feel about the pregnancy or the mother. The war on men started with men walking away from their responsibility to their sons and daughters and will end when men "put themselves" back into the equation.
  • Jun 17, 2013, 03:21 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    The war on men started with men walking away from their responsibility to their sons and daughters and will end when men "put themselves" back into the equation.
    Yes indeed that is part of the solution. Blaming the men is convenient . But you fail to identify the underlying change that happened. Yes part of it is the permissive culture of the left . The other part of it is the unintended consequences of government social experimentation and attempts at poverty erradication. The reason that some men can walk away is that the government has made it financially beneficial to do so.
  • Jun 17, 2013, 03:58 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Yes indeed that is part of the solution. Blaming the men is convenient . But you fail to identify the underlying change that happened. Yes part of it is the permissive culture of the left . The other part of it is the unintended consequences of government social experimentation and attempts at poverty erradication. The reason that some men can walk away is that the government has made it financially benefical to do so.

    You speak as though women have no responsibility and yet the real responsibility for pregnancy lies with them. Outside of Rape they have total responsibility but they don't take it and the fault also lies in the safetynets that they have. Men walk away because they become unwelcome they are unable to provide or they aren't allowed to be part of the process, expected to finance the child without contact. The permissive culture doesn't just exist on the left, the right bears responsibility for their attitudes and enabling too, the right considers it chic to use women and cast them aside and then wages a war on men I see it in my own family, the girl allows herself to become pregnant and I hear the platitudes such as he will do the right thing by her while at the same time world war III rages between them and is this the first time, no, obviously the idea of cause and effect hasn't taken hold. Where I come from there is a whole mechanism for extracting child maintenance from the male and yet the only option they are left with to have any sort of life is to drop out otherwise the result is punative worse than taxation. One child they might afford but if there were more in the family... the burden is far more than they would conribute in a family relationship
  • Jun 17, 2013, 04:42 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    the right considers it chic to use women and cast them aside
    I do not think that is correct.
  • Jun 17, 2013, 05:14 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I do not think that is correct.

    Not even vaguely in the realm of reality.

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