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  • May 22, 2013, 03:27 PM
    paraclete
    Just another terrorist attack
    No let's call it what it really is, just another Muslim attack

    Two shot by police after soldier hacked to death on street near Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich | News.com.au

    It may take sometime before the facts emerge as to why a British soldier was run down in his home street and savagely murdered by Muslims but what is clear this was a Muslim attack. This is what we can expect anytime one of these religious fanatics gets his nose out of joint.
  • May 22, 2013, 05:23 PM
    Catsmine
    They keep trying to say they are a "Religion of Peace," according to Mahathir bin Mohamad of Malaysia. My question is "When did they start?"
  • May 22, 2013, 06:48 PM
    paraclete
    They have not been at peace in 1400 years and I don't expect them to start anytime soon. The point is some individuals might want to live in peace as we all do but there are large numbers who are radicalised and who don't accept our way of life. These people are not tolerant towards others. Apparently this was about Afghanistan but I suspect it is about infidels in Muslim lands Let's face it we are an offence to them and I am just as offended by their actions but I don't go around killing people

    Look at Syria and Iraq they can't even be tolerant towards each other and the world expects they will behave reasonably and responsibly? Everywhere there are Muslims there is trouble
  • May 23, 2013, 02:38 AM
    smkanand
    Oh my God I saw the video one guy holding blooded knife in his hands and saying that he is sorry that our women and children has to see that. And he also said lot of other stuff. Blood was all over the road.
  • May 23, 2013, 03:08 AM
    paraclete
    Yes a Big Muslim A@@hole there, couldn't care less about his victim or the people around him. Good thing he was shot pity he survived. That's my opinion and I stand by it

    I will echo the ancient injunction the only good muslim is a dead muslim, call me racist if you like, call me something else but the truth is clear and the truth is eternal
  • May 23, 2013, 04:19 AM
    smkanand
    The day when they will take it easy and stop taking seriously and literally written in that book, things might improved.
  • May 23, 2013, 04:26 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smkanand View Post
    the day when they will take it easy and stop taking seriously and literally written in that book, things might improved.

    They can't do that. The book flawed as it is, is all they have without that they have no anchor to their abhorant beliefs, now by saying this I become a target for them but they are cowards at heart because my God is more powerful than their god and they will not face me one on one
  • May 23, 2013, 04:52 AM
    NeedKarma
    How to suck at your religion - The Oatmeal
  • May 23, 2013, 05:00 AM
    paraclete
    Thank you karma now go you and do likewise
  • May 23, 2013, 05:01 AM
    NeedKarma
    Anytime. Good luck over there.
  • May 23, 2013, 05:04 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Anytime. Good luck over there.

    Yes we have good luck here
  • May 23, 2013, 06:10 AM
    tomder55
    Europe is the canary in the coal mine.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rope_Slept.jpg
  • May 23, 2013, 07:40 AM
    talaniman
    Who listens to the excuses of a criminal justifying his acts?
  • May 23, 2013, 08:19 AM
    speechlesstx
    http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4637577872474366&pid=1.7
  • May 23, 2013, 09:13 AM
    xTiffanyx
    oh yeah the wool wich attack yeah it said on the news it was a terrorist attack I know what he did was extremely wrong but apparently the police shot him..
    I don't think that's fair... just because he did that doesn't mean the police have to go drastic and do that.. arresting him is much more easier.




    take a look at this article

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634468
  • May 23, 2013, 09:42 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xTiffanyx View Post
    oh yeah the wool wich attack yeah it said on the news it was a terrorist attack I know what he did was extremely wrong but apparently the police shot him..
    I don't think that's fair... just because he did that doesn't mean the police have to go drastic and do that.. arresting him is much more easier.




    take a look at this article

    BBC News - Woolwich attack: Suspects known to security services

    According to the article you linked I don't think they had a choice.

    Quote:

    Another eyewitness said the police "didn't even get a chance to get out of their car".

    "They just had to shoot him because he was just hurtling towards them," Graham Wilders told the BBC. "And then the other one, with the handgun, lifted it up and obviously they shot him."
    If I'm a cop and some guy wielding a cleaver or whatever with bloody hands after beheading a guy on the street came hurtling at me I'd shoot him. Totally justified.
  • May 23, 2013, 11:28 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    The two suspects videotaped butchering a soldier to death on a London street before spouting extremist slogans to bystanders were part of a early security services investigations for possible terror links, according to a government British official.

    The official, who spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the investigation, said he could not provide other details because the suspects may face trial, the Associated Press reported.

    Investigations by Britain's domestic security service, MI5, can include undercover surveillance, phone tapping and communications intercepts.
    Two more arrests in brutal London attack
  • May 23, 2013, 03:00 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xTiffanyx View Post
    oh yeah the wool wich attack yeah it said on the news it was a terrorist attack I know what he did was extremely wrong but apparently the police shot him..
    I don't think that's fair... just because he did that doesn't mean the police have to go drastic and do that.. arresting him is much more easier.

    A policeman being attacked by a murderer has no right to shoot his attacker? What cloud do you live on?

    Of course the police had every right to shoot them they were armed and highly dangerous and the pity is they only wounded them
  • May 23, 2013, 03:56 PM
    odinn7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    A policeman being attacked by a murderer has no right to shoot his attacker? what cloud do you live on?

    of course the police had every right to shoot them they were armed and highly dangerous and the pity is they only wounded them

    In another post of hers she mentions that she's 14...
  • May 23, 2013, 04:02 PM
    paraclete
    Even a fourteen year old is not that niaive, surely. Murder and bloody mayhem deserve only one reply
  • May 23, 2013, 04:04 PM
    odinn7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    even a fourteen year old is not that niaive, surely. murder and bloody mayhem deserve only one reply

    Oh, don't get me wrong... for once, you and I agree on something. ;)
    I was just pointing out that she is not an adult and may have a skewed view on this... it also appears from some of her posts that she may be Muslim as well so that could have something to do with the opinion.
  • May 23, 2013, 04:17 PM
    talaniman
    Two more arrests in brutal London attack

    Quote:

    Muslim religious groups and charities were quick to condemn the attack and urged police to calm tensions. The Muslim Council of Britain called it a "barbaric act that has no basis in Islam," adding that "no cause justifies this murder."
  • May 23, 2013, 04:25 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    I do believe the Muslim Council of Britain is practicing taqiyya.
  • May 23, 2013, 04:40 PM
    paraclete
    Well of course they are in deniel
  • May 23, 2013, 11:25 PM
    smkanand
    If Britain and other countries will stop giving asylum to dictators, former terrorist and criminals, things will change.
  • May 24, 2013, 01:44 AM
    paraclete
    We these people in that category? How do you know?
  • May 24, 2013, 06:15 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Probably the best take on what's happened to the UK.

    Quote:

    This incident illustrates, if nothing else, the endpoint of the social engineering of the West. It has been remarkably effective.

    From a certain point of view, the British crowd behaved perfectly and this is the way “they” all want us to behave. The populace sheltered in place, didn’t do anything rash, talked to the perpetrators as people. They waited for the police to come and the hospital helicopter to take the corpse away. Some will doubtless get counseling to overcome their shattering experience.

    And then they will congratulate themselves on how tough British society is; resilience and all that. The more caring will leave some flowers by a railing and hold a few candle vigils for healing and peace, until these wither and blow away and the news cycle washes up a new object of attention.

    The attackers knew they were actors in a drama — as keenly watched in their communities as on the BBC. And in that other audience they were asking: “How will the locals behave?” We know now. And that other audience may derive an entirely different lesson from this tableau: “See? Only their women act like men. They follow orders. They are nothing anymore — these Westerners. They are a civilization whose core has been destroyed.”

    And would they be right? Who will be the judge? Per C.S. Lewis:

    And all the time — such is the tragi-comedy of our situation — we continue to clamor for those very qualities we are rendering impossible. You can hardly open a periodical without coming across the statement that what our civilization needs is more “drive”, or dynamism, or self-sacrifice, or “creativity”. In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.

    What could go wrong?
    Apparently everything. And in typical fashion David Cameron responded with the obligatory "this is not representative of Islam" drivel. Al-shabaab says it is:
  • May 24, 2013, 06:24 AM
    smkanand
    Cameron said what he supposed to say, that's diplomacy. The real need is policy change.
  • May 24, 2013, 06:26 AM
    speechlesstx
    We need less diplomacy and more balls.
  • May 24, 2013, 08:17 AM
    paraclete
    What is needed is to take the gloves off, deport the radicals back to where they came from and support the destruction of the militants wherever they are found. Muslims declared war on the west in 2001 and there can only be on outcome and it is not the winding down of the war to a police action as Obama proposes. He doesn't have the stomach for what must be done to little Barack and too much Hussien. The French have the right idea take the fight right to them
  • May 24, 2013, 08:26 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    what is needed is to take the gloves off, deport the radicals back to where they came from and support the destruction of the militants whereever they are found. Muslims declared war on the west in 2001 and there can only be on outcome and it is not the winding down of the war to a police action as Obama proposes. He doesn't have the stomach for what must be done to little Barack and too much Hussien. The French have the right idea take the fight right to them

    As I was saying...
  • May 24, 2013, 09:30 AM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    what is needed is to take the gloves off, deport the radicals back to where they came from and support the destruction of the militants whereever they are found. Muslims declared war on the west in 2001 and there can only be on outcome and it is not the winding down of the war to a police action as Obama proposes. He doesn't have the stomach for what must be done to little Barack and too much Hussien. The French have the right idea take the fight right to them

    Deportation? not exactly. I would suggest a Dr. Zhivago ride to Riyadh, Tehran, and Mecca.
  • May 24, 2013, 10:02 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    This incident illustrates, if nothing else, the endpoint of the social engineering of the West. It has been remarkably effective.

    From a certain point of view, the British crowd behaved perfectly and this is the way “they” all want us to behave. The populace sheltered in place, didn't do anything rash, talked to the perpetrators as people. They waited for the police to come and the hospital helicopter to take the corpse away. Some will doubtless get counseling to overcome their shattering experience.

    And then they will congratulate themselves on how tough British society is; resilience and all that. The more caring will leave some flowers by a railing and hold a few candle vigils for healing and peace, until these wither and blow away and the news cycle washes up a new object of attention.

    The attackers knew they were actors in a drama — as keenly watched in their communities as on the BBC. And in that other audience they were asking: “How will the locals behave?” We know now. And that other audience may derive an entirely different lesson from this tableau: “See? Only their women act like men. They follow orders. They are nothing anymore — these Westerners. They are a civilization whose core has been destroyed.”
    Belmont Club
  • May 24, 2013, 02:27 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post

    Nice to know the opinions you post are not your own
  • May 24, 2013, 04:19 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    As I was saying...

    Yes we do sometimes agree
  • May 24, 2013, 05:54 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    nice to know the opinions you post are not your own

    If someone expresses it better than I can why not quote with proper credit ?
  • May 24, 2013, 06:02 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    if someone expresses it better than I can why not quote with proper credit ?

    I was referring to the fact you didn't give thecredit in the first post
  • May 25, 2013, 03:58 AM
    smkanand
    London killer was related to a terror group named Al mujhairan, banned organization. One line of condemning the incident by muslim groups is just not enough.
  • May 25, 2013, 04:46 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smkanand View Post
    London killer was related to a terror group named Al mujhairan, banned organization. one line of condemning the incident by muslim groups is just not enough.

    I agree Muslim are partisan in these matters, this form of terrorism or confrontation will not end until they end it themselves. That will take a Muslim withdrawal from western countries and a western withdrawal from muslim countries and frankly they are dulluded if they think we want those lands.
  • May 25, 2013, 07:49 AM
    smkanand
    All the financial help these terror groups are getting from rich muslims spread all over the world through various mediums. It's time to scrutiny financial world.

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